40,000 Sydney Swans Members in 2014

[AFLcrap1]

Some are very reliant,just as some AFL clubs are.
But as usual it was a dumb fumble fan bringing it up.

[Xman]

Some are very reliant,just as some AFL clubs are.
But as usual it was a dumb fumble fan bringing it up.

And your comments made it sound like this wasnt an NRL issue

So can you see Raiderdave rushing to support his claim the raiders earn 70m per year? This is what he's done year in year out, make ludicrous claims without a shred of evidence

[Raiderdave]

Some are very reliant,just as some AFL clubs are.
But as usual it was a dumb fumble fan bringing it up.

And your comments made it sound like this wasnt an NRL issue

So can you see Raiderdave rushing to support his claim the raiders earn 70m per year? This is what he's done year in year out, make ludicrous claims without a shred of evidence

you've seen the Evidence cockhead
you just don't wanna believe it

[Xman]

Some are very reliant,just as some AFL clubs are.
But as usual it was a dumb fumble fan bringing it up.

And your comments made it sound like this wasnt an NRL issue

So can you see Raiderdave rushing to support his claim the raiders earn 70m per year? This is what he's done year in year out, make ludicrous claims without a shred of evidence

you've seen the Evidence cockhead
you just don't wanna believe it

I have never seen evidence the Canberra Raiders have 70m revenue to spend on their sporting club..ever

All I've seen is they earn about 12m, half of which is funded by the NRL and ACT

[Raiderdave]

AFL clubs release financial statements which show the revenue they earn from memberships is substantial. It has nothing to do with going broke, thats to do with spending too much, usually on their football departments like large coaching panels, medical teams etc
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/staticfile ... t_2012.pdf
Here's essendons 2013 annual report. They have about 50k members. It shows they earn over 9 million from membership revenue alone. Isnt that almost the raiders entire annual revenue? Lol

9 million eh
& yet the drug fucked scum lost 1.5 million last year
maybe they need to charge a bit more for their memberships then $10 a game eh dickhead ( my point here actually ) :_<> :_<>

the Raiders turned over their usual 70 million in 2013
& popped 3 Mill in the bank after all the bills had been paid

do Essenturd need a lesson or 2 from us on how to make profits ?

maths aint your strong point is it Dave. 9.3m divided by 45k (2012 tally) equals $207 per membership. 12 home games so $17 per game for a membership package on average.

Total revenue for 2012 was over 60m. THis is the sporting clubs revenue and spending, not some attached business enterprise. The raiders sports club revenue is only around 12m with half of that a handout. The 70m you quoted is a business with seperate revenue and expenses, and not available to the raiders.

sporting club revenue
what do you think the Raiders group is you blithering fuckwit :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

the Raiders FC own the group
they own the buildings the clubs are in ... the pokies
they own the revenue & profits these clubs generate

they also own property in 3 states
so overall they turnover 70 million a year ATM .... soon to be closer to 90 million when they start reaping income from their next property development at Braddon next to the Canberra CBD which they will own as well...
& their annual profits are tipped to hit 8 Mill a year by then

they will never be in financial crisis
they will always have money
they are a pocket dynamo where money is concerned

again
does Essenbong need a tip or 2 ?

So the Raiders sporting club have a revenue and sporting club spend of 70million do they? They can spend 70mil on their club can they?

Got anything to back this up?

Essendon have a revenue of around 60mil which is ALL available to the club to spend, not to pay expenses of a separate business

what the fuck is the Raiders sporting club you dribbling ***** ? >

its the Raiders Group
they are owned by the Raiders RLFC

there are numerous licensed clubs & other business's & property holdings within this group
every cent earnt is owned by the Raiders RLFC

deal with it you ignorant cockhead

[Xman]

http://www.raidersclub.com.au/site/file ... 199982.pdf

Here's a statement showing the raiders had revenue of 26m in 2013, 18m of which came from gaming....

[Xman]

AFL clubs release financial statements which show the revenue they earn from memberships is substantial. It has nothing to do with going broke, thats to do with spending too much, usually on their football departments like large coaching panels, medical teams etc
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/staticfile ... t_2012.pdf
Here's essendons 2013 annual report. They have about 50k members. It shows they earn over 9 million from membership revenue alone. Isnt that almost the raiders entire annual revenue? Lol

9 million eh
& yet the drug fucked scum lost 1.5 million last year
maybe they need to charge a bit more for their memberships then $10 a game eh dickhead ( my point here actually ) :_<> :_<>

the Raiders turned over their usual 70 million in 2013
& popped 3 Mill in the bank after all the bills had been paid

do Essenturd need a lesson or 2 from us on how to make profits ?

maths aint your strong point is it Dave. 9.3m divided by 45k (2012 tally) equals $207 per membership. 12 home games so $17 per game for a membership package on average.

Total revenue for 2012 was over 60m. THis is the sporting clubs revenue and spending, not some attached business enterprise. The raiders sports club revenue is only around 12m with half of that a handout. The 70m you quoted is a business with seperate revenue and expenses, and not available to the raiders.

sporting club revenue
what do you think the Raiders group is you blithering fuckwit :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

the Raiders FC own the group
they own the buildings the clubs are in ... the pokies
they own the revenue & profits these clubs generate

they also own property in 3 states
so overall they turnover 70 million a year ATM .... soon to be closer to 90 million when they start reaping income from their next property development at Braddon next to the Canberra CBD which they will own as well...
& their annual profits are tipped to hit 8 Mill a year by then

they will never be in financial crisis
they will always have money
they are a pocket dynamo where money is concerned

again
does Essenbong need a tip or 2 ?

So the Raiders sporting club have a revenue and sporting club spend of 70million do they? They can spend 70mil on their club can they?

Got anything to back this up?

Essendon have a revenue of around 60mil which is ALL available to the club to spend, not to pay expenses of a separate business

what the fuck is the Raiders sporting club you dribbling ***** ? >

its the Raiders Group
they are owned by the Raiders RLFC

there are numerous licensed clubs & other business's & property holdings within this group
every cent earnt is owned by the Raiders RLFC

deal with it you ignorant cockhead

"A dismal season on the field for the NRL operation last year was matched by below-par financial performance, slumping to a loss of more than $220,000 on revenues of almost $12 million, including nearly $2 million in cash and in-kind benefits from the ACT government."


Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-new ... z2rSONuut0

[Raiderdave]

AFL clubs release financial statements which show the revenue they earn from memberships is substantial. It has nothing to do with going broke, thats to do with spending too much, usually on their football departments like large coaching panels, medical teams etc
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/staticfile ... t_2012.pdf
Here's essendons 2013 annual report. They have about 50k members. It shows they earn over 9 million from membership revenue alone. Isnt that almost the raiders entire annual revenue? Lol

9 million eh
& yet the drug fucked scum lost 1.5 million last year
maybe they need to charge a bit more for their memberships then $10 a game eh dickhead ( my point here actually ) :_<> :_<>

the Raiders turned over their usual 70 million in 2013
& popped 3 Mill in the bank after all the bills had been paid

do Essenturd need a lesson or 2 from us on how to make profits ?

maths aint your strong point is it Dave. 9.3m divided by 45k (2012 tally) equals $207 per membership. 12 home games so $17 per game for a membership package on average.

Total revenue for 2012 was over 60m. THis is the sporting clubs revenue and spending, not some attached business enterprise. The raiders sports club revenue is only around 12m with half of that a handout. The 70m you quoted is a business with seperate revenue and expenses, and not available to the raiders.

sporting club revenue
what do you think the Raiders group is you blithering fuckwit :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

the Raiders FC own the group
they own the buildings the clubs are in ... the pokies
they own the revenue & profits these clubs generate

they also own property in 3 states
so overall they turnover 70 million a year ATM .... soon to be closer to 90 million when they start reaping income from their next property development at Braddon next to the Canberra CBD which they will own as well...
& their annual profits are tipped to hit 8 Mill a year by then

they will never be in financial crisis
they will always have money
they are a pocket dynamo where money is concerned

again
does Essenbong need a tip or 2 ?

So the Raiders sporting club have a revenue and sporting club spend of 70million do they? They can spend 70mil on their club can they?

Got anything to back this up?

Essendon have a revenue of around 60mil which is ALL available to the club to spend, not to pay expenses of a separate business

what the fuck is the Raiders sporting club you dribbling ***** ? >

its the Raiders Group
they are owned by the Raiders RLFC

there are numerous licensed clubs & other business's & property holdings within this group
every cent earnt is owned by the Raiders RLFC

deal with it you ignorant cockhead

"A dismal season on the field for the NRL operation last year was matched by below-par financial performance, slumping to a loss of more than $220,000 on revenues of almost $12 million, including nearly $2 million in cash and in-kind benefits from the ACT government."


Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-new ... z2rSONuut0

and this bit this deluded cockhead seemingly left off for some reason ?

But the Raiders' parent group, The Canberra District Rugby League Football Club Ltd, enjoyed cash-flows last year of almost $50 million and healthy profits of $3.6 million.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-new ... z2rSQ1TTzS

so that's
50 million 2 years ago from its non football related businesses
& 12 Million from the football business

that 12 million is now 15 Million with the NRL grant increased in 2013 by this amount

they have also acquired new properties in QLD since 2012
increasing their overall revenues to 70 Million plus in 2013

no where in this article does it say anything other then the Canberra Raiders are in control of this empire
they are one entity
slaughtering it financially

[Xman]

Mainly because that revenue isnt available to the Canberra Raiders NRL club, who struggle along with on of the smallest sporting revenues in Australian professional sport. 12m, yet still struggling to make ends meet....lol

[Raiderdave]

http://www.raidersclub.com.au/site/file ... 199982.pdf

Here's a statement showing the raiders had revenue of 26m in 2013, 18m of which came from gaming....

yes Einstein :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

that's half of the total group ( the Sports club group including their clubs at Gungahlin , Mawson , Braddon & West Belco & Weston).......... it doesn't include the Qbyn Leagues club which is separate from the sports club group & turns over almost as much again ....or any of the property holdings of which the Raiders now have many in 3 states & are buying more each year

or the Football club revenues of 15 Million

do the math twat
how do ya reckon we're doin

[Raiderdave]

Mainly because that revenue isnt available to the Canberra Raiders NRL club,

why of course it is
you just can't accept this reality

the Raiders out earn your club
infact
they out earn most clubs when all their business interests are included ... as they should be the same as VFL clubs do

suck it up princess
the Raiders are very ... very well run.

[Xman]

http://www.raidersclub.com.au/site/file ... 199982.pdf

Here's a statement showing the raiders had revenue of 26m in 2013, 18m of which came from gaming....

yes Einstein :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

that's half of the total group ( the Sports club group including their clubs at Gungahlin , Mawson , Braddon & West Belco & Weston).......... it doesn't include the Qbyn Leagues club which is separate from the sports club group & turns over almost as much again ....or any of the property holdings of which the Raiders now have many in 3 states & are buying more each year

or the Football club revenues of 15 Million

do the math twat
how do ya reckon we're doin

The sporting club is struggling on 12m spend a year. They can bolster their corporate arm until Kingdom come, but until the sporting club has more revenue to spend theyre a minnow that is effectively ignored by the NRL in TV exposure

As far as overall financial health

Australian Rules clubs are winning the branding battle against clubs from the other football codes, according to a new assessment of the most valuable brands in sport.
Global brand valuation consultancy Brand Finance has compiled a list of the 20 most valuable sports brands. Fourteen of the top 20 belong to AFL clubs and the rest are from the NRL.
The combined value of the top 20 brands is $485 million, of which AFL clubs contribute $334 million.
This is the first year Brand Finance have compiled this list but a director of Brand Finance Richard Haigh says the gap between the value of AFL brands and those in the NRL is growing.
“In the last 10 years the AFL has run away [from the NRL] in terms of ability to generate revenue, viewing figures and memberships,” Haigh says.“Right now the NRL is struggling comparatively.”

http://www.afr.com/p/marketing/AFL_club ... leRedirect

[Xman]

Mainly because that revenue isnt available to the Canberra Raiders NRL club,

why of course it is
you just can't accept this reality

the Raiders out earn your club
infact
they out earn most clubs when all their business interests are included ... as they should be the same as VFL clubs do

suck it up princess
the Raiders are very ... very well run.

No, its not. If it was the raiders budget for their sports club would be more than 12m per year.

The Raiders football team has generated around $12-$13 million of revenue in recent years, making it one of the poorest-performing in the competition. This effectively means the football club is uneconomic and demands several million dollars from the leagues club and property trust for support each year.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2rSXdfAPy

[Xman]

Compared to the AFL, the financial performance of the NRL clubs is underwhelming. Even the Broncos generate less than half the revenue of Collingwood despite having a city of 2 million people to themselves.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2rSYRqdlV

[Raiderdave]

http://www.raidersclub.com.au/site/file ... 199982.pdf

Here's a statement showing the raiders had revenue of 26m in 2013, 18m of which came from gaming....

yes Einstein :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

that's half of the total group ( the Sports club group including their clubs at Gungahlin , Mawson , Braddon & West Belco & Weston).......... it doesn't include the Qbyn Leagues club which is separate from the sports club group & turns over almost as much again ....or any of the property holdings of which the Raiders now have many in 3 states & are buying more each year

or the Football club revenues of 15 Million

do the math twat
how do ya reckon we're doin

As far as overall financial health

Australian Rules clubs are winning the branding battle against clubs from the other football codes, according to a new assessment of the most valuable brands in sport.
Global brand valuation consultancy Brand Finance has compiled a list of the 20 most valuable sports brands. Fourteen of the top 20 belong to AFL clubs and the rest are from the NRL.
The combined value of the top 20 brands is $485 million, of which AFL clubs contribute $334 million.
This is the first year Brand Finance have compiled this list but a director of Brand Finance Richard Haigh says the gap between the value of AFL brands and those in the NRL is growing.
“In the last 10 years the AFL has run away [from the NRL] in terms of ability to generate revenue, viewing figures and memberships,” Haigh says.“Right now the NRL is struggling comparatively.”

http://www.afr.com/p/marketing/AFL_club ... leRedirect

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winning the branding battle eh

& yet these VFL brands are on TV for 595 hrs a year in Australia
to the NRL's 295

& broadcasters paid more money for the NRL's

& here endith the lesson ..........