Talking Footy

King-Eliagh wrote:

Professional National Rugby League clubs in canberra = 1

Professional Australian Football League Clubs in Canberra = ZILCH.

Oh wait, well Canberra does have some weird agreement to let a team of pimply faced 18 year olds come to town twice or thrice a year to cop an absolute thrashing. So lemme rephrase my assessment.

Professional National Rugby League clubs in canberra = 1

Professional Australian Football League Clubs in Canberra = minus 1.



RL is quite simply a much larger presence economically and professionally in Canberra. I'd suggest that the avg crowds for the Raiders are significnantly larger than for that team of pimple heads who visit from time to time to get their poop knocked out of em in front of a few thou ignorant, then shocked and disgruntled expat southerners I'd also suggest your local tv viewer numbers for the Raiders absolutely trounce the ratings for those zitheaded feeble high school kids who drop in to Canberra so the locals and southern expats alike can all see the outcomes of the amazing expansion strategy and planning the head honchos down at AFL HQ have drummed up.

Yep. Canberra. Its AFL all the way! :_<>

Phelpsy wrote:

I think AFL probably runs a distant third in Canberra to be honest . And down the coast to merimbila and Eden (is that in nsw) where they only get nsw channels rl still seems main water cooler sport. I think as you head across the border up the Hume you start at the border with AFL much more dominant and this slowly changes to probably wagga where it is likely even split. Them it starts going in rl favour as you head toward Sydney.

The big difference between the codes is that AFL has a presence in grass roots football across the country, and a decent one at that. It has 5 leagues in Sydney alone. I think it is on remote regional areas of qld and nsw that AFL is still seen as gayfl but these areas are about 20 years behind the rest of the country. When you look at Aussie rules in Sydney and qld and the fact it has a presence ... If your son wants to play there is a team he can play at for instance, and compare to rl in Vic, s.a and tassie , where if your son wanted to play it would mean a major commitment ... As I have said previously where I used to live in gippsland Victoria there is no league with only one league covering Melbourne/Geelong ... And I assume it is worse in s.a and tassie. W.a does seem to have a good junior league though so looks good for Perth anyway.

NRLCrap1 wrote:

I don't know for sure, but I think the execs in Sydney make the decisions for TV in regional New South Wales and the ACT. And that may be biased against AFL no matter what the local situation. I remember reading some time ago something about there being a protest group in Canberra complaining about the times the games were being shown before digital came along. I don't remember much detail but it did catch my eye and the AFL were certainly onto it.

NRLCrap1 wrote:

I don't know for sure, but I think the execs in Sydney make the decisions for TV in regional New South Wales and the ACT. And that may be biased against AFL no matter what the local situation. I remember reading some time ago something about there being a protest group in Canberra complaining about the times the games were being shown before digital came along. I don't remember much detail but it did catch my eye and the AFL were certainly onto it.

214Four wrote:

Lol it has been awhile now since i had any decent time to add a comment to this forum (Apologies specially to me going AWOL and failing to update the crowd averages to the Penrith Vs GWS thread) . Anyways...

Phelpsy wrote:

I think AFL probably runs a distant third in Canberra to be honest . And down the coast to merimbila and Eden (is that in nsw) where they only get nsw channels rl still seems main water cooler sport. I think as you head across the border up the Hume you start at the border with AFL much more dominant and this slowly changes to probably wagga where it is likely even split. Them it starts going in rl favour as you head toward Sydney.

The big difference between the codes is that AFL has a presence in grass roots football across the country, and a decent one at that. It has 5 leagues in Sydney alone. I think it is on remote regional areas of qld and nsw that AFL is still seen as gayfl but these areas are about 20 years behind the rest of the country. When you look at Aussie rules in Sydney and qld and the fact it has a presence ... If your son wants to play there is a team he can play at for instance, and compare to rl in Vic, s.a and tassie , where if your son wanted to play it would mean a major commitment ... As I have said previously where I used to live in gippsland Victoria there is no league with only one league covering Melbourne/Geelong ... And I assume it is worse in s.a and tassie. W.a does seem to have a good junior league though so looks good for Perth anyway.

Good post Phelpsy, and i agree with you. AFL is easily sitting behind the two Rugbies In Canberra and the ACT, I would also add that i believe if in the future a Canberra based team joins the A-league they will become the AFL's biggest rival in that battle for the 3rd most popular code for the forseable future. yeh the towns in the southern parts of NSW have varieing code popularities depending on the closeness to the NSW/VIC border, the towns in this areas are probably the only true examples of where the AFL and NRl co-exists quite comfortably as both are well supported by their local population and media, no matter where these towns are located/which code is more popular there. The Exception is Albury from what i have been told by locals which is that AFL is easily the dominant code there, so much so that RL's (RU too) prescence there is sounded out by the AFL which rightfully dominates the towns media etc etc...

AFL has a solid grass roots program in NSW and QLD obviously as well as the other states and territiories in aust, and this is another area where the RL commision need to actually make a descision and do something (which is the total opposite to what they seem to be doing this year, fuck they are hopeless)... Of course in the states/cities where the AFL is supreme they(the AFL) will publish stories on how the AFL is going 'gangbusters in the Northern states' etc etc), but please can some sensibilility be used when reading these ( and i am not pointing fingers at anyone in TF)... The AFL has done a great job in allocating appropriate funds to areas to help the game move forward (lol or more north to be prescise), But aussie media (all types) these days is just tabloid style based around sensitisation, scare mongering etc. More worried about writing what people what to hear/ so then they make more money. the truth is often boring :>:: ,but bending some facts and stretching afew truths can make it more interesting , but then publishing a persons opinions as factual is eye candy

if you are strongly passionate towards your club, your code your state yaddda yadda yadda, and/or have never had any real interest in the other codes purely built up from positive reasons, and specially those who have never actually spent any significant time in the parts of Australia where the sporting culture/interest is totally different need to read stories like these and remember to stop and question some of what you just read before just taking it on as fact. so take off the 'one eyed' specs, and basiacally take what the media says with a grain of salt. then sift through the 'information' you have been given and after close examination only keeping the actual granules that are needed to help you to be properly informed. doing this would have prevented a thread topic like this and and then the phrase Barassi line could be known for what it was supposed to, a way Rons mum and his AFL collegues could inform him that he had skid marks on his shorts again.

Raiderdave wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

I don't know for sure, but I think the execs in Sydney make the decisions for TV in regional New South Wales and the ACT. And that may be biased against AFL no matter what the local situation. I remember reading some time ago something about there being a protest group in Canberra complaining about the times the games were being shown before digital came along. I don't remember much detail but it did catch my eye and the AFL were certainly onto it.

biased .... :_<> :_<>

you dribbling halfwit
TV execs put on what rates ..... what drives revenue from advertising sales through ratings & keeps them in a job

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

I don't know for sure, but I think the execs in Sydney make the decisions for TV in regional New South Wales and the ACT. And that may be biased against AFL no matter what the local situation. I remember reading some time ago something about there being a protest group in Canberra complaining about the times the games were being shown before digital came along. I don't remember much detail but it did catch my eye and the AFL were certainly onto it.

biased .... :_<> :_<>

you dribbling halfwit
TV execs put on what rates ..... what drives revenue from advertising sales through ratings & keeps them in a job

Based on Sydney bias! I doubt those Sydney execs even look at the ratings in Canberra or the Riverina!

214Four wrote:

Lol it has been awhile now since i had any decent time to add a comment to this forum (Apologies specially to me going AWOL and failing to update the crowd averages to the Penrith Vs GWS thread) . Anyways...

Phelpsy wrote:

I think AFL probably runs a distant third in Canberra to be honest . And down the coast to merimbila and Eden (is that in nsw) where they only get nsw channels rl still seems main water cooler sport. I think as you head across the border up the Hume you start at the border with AFL much more dominant and this slowly changes to probably wagga where it is likely even split. Them it starts going in rl favour as you head toward Sydney.

The big difference between the codes is that AFL has a presence in grass roots football across the country, and a decent one at that. It has 5 leagues in Sydney alone. I think it is on remote regional areas of qld and nsw that AFL is still seen as gayfl but these areas are about 20 years behind the rest of the country. When you look at Aussie rules in Sydney and qld and the fact it has a presence ... If your son wants to play there is a team he can play at for instance, and compare to rl in Vic, s.a and tassie , where if your son wanted to play it would mean a major commitment ... As I have said previously where I used to live in gippsland Victoria there is no league with only one league covering Melbourne/Geelong ... And I assume it is worse in s.a and tassie. W.a does seem to have a good junior league though so looks good for Perth anyway.

Good post Phelpsy, and i agree with you. AFL is easily sitting behind the two Rugbies In Canberra and the ACT, I would also add that i believe if in the future a Canberra based team joins the A-league they will become the AFL's biggest rival in that battle for the 3rd most popular code for the forseable future. yeh the towns in the southern parts of NSW have varieing code popularities depending on the closeness to the NSW/VIC border, the towns in this areas are probably the only true examples of where the AFL and NRl co-exists quite comfortably as both are well supported by their local population and media, no matter where these towns are located/which code is more popular there. The Exception is Albury from what i have been told by locals which is that AFL is easily the dominant code there, so much so that RL's (RU too) prescence there is sounded out by the AFL which rightfully dominates the towns media etc etc...

AFL has a solid grass roots program in NSW and QLD obviously as well as the other states and territiories in aust, and this is another area where the RL commision need to actually make a descision and do something (which is the total opposite to what they seem to be doing this year, fuck they are hopeless)... Of course in the states/cities where the AFL is supreme they(the AFL) will publish stories on how the AFL is going 'gangbusters in the Northern states' etc etc), but please can some sensibilility be used when reading these ( and i am not pointing fingers at anyone in TF)... The AFL has done a great job in allocating appropriate funds to areas to help the game move forward (lol or more north to be prescise), But aussie media (all types) these days is just tabloid style based around sensitisation, scare mongering etc. More worried about writing what people what to hear/ so then they make more money. the truth is often boring :>:: ,but bending some facts and stretching afew truths can make it more interesting , but then publishing a persons opinions as factual is eye candy

if you are strongly passionate towards your club, your code your state yaddda yadda yadda, and/or have never had any real interest in the other codes purely built up from positive reasons, and specially those who have never actually spent any significant time in the parts of Australia where the sporting culture/interest is totally different need to read stories like these and remember to stop and question some of what you just read before just taking it on as fact. so take off the 'one eyed' specs, and basiacally take what the media says with a grain of salt. then sift through the 'information' you have been given and after close examination only keeping the actual granules that are needed to help you to be properly informed. doing this would have prevented a thread topic like this and and then the phrase Barassi line could be known for what it was supposed to, a way Rons mum and his AFL collegues could inform him that he had skid marks on his shorts again.