Talking Footy

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

1) congratulations on submitting a post without a reference to penises.
2) So you admit that our biggest match is bigger than your biggest match then?
3) Now that we've established that the AFL's biggest match is bigger than the nRL's biggest match, let's look at the 4 biggest matches:

AFL Grand Final
AFL biggest Final #1
AFL Biggest Final #2
AFL Biggest Final #3

vs

SOO 1
SOO 2
SOO 3
nRL GF.

I think we'd win that. In terms of attendance it's a bit of a gamble for the AFL dependant on which teams are playing (in 2012 despite finals involving Sydney, Adelaide and West Coast, it was nRL 273k v AFL 318k), but in terms of revenue it's an absolute no-brainer. AFL Grand Final Alone generates $50 million, which is more than the entire State of Origin SERIES (that's including things like NSW and QLD jumper sponsorship btw).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state- ... 6372979674

The State of Origin series generates more than $30 million in revenue

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6479849644#

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

Check

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

ahhhhhhhhh

tell me

how the fuck could the VFL Grand Final generate 50 Million in ticket sales last year
when the most expensive ticket is $390 dollars
http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/a ... 20u75.html
&
there are 100,000 people there

If everyone at the ground including 3 year old children were charged $390 for their seat ( barely 10% would be charged this much & the rest a whole lot less)
the most the gate would be

would be 39 Million







:_<> :_<>

it seems the utter BS .. the complete .. lies .... the rampant crap .. the wankfest ...written about the VFL
knows ... no bounds :>::

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

1) congratulations on submitting a post without a reference to penises.
2) So you admit that our biggest match is bigger than your biggest match then?
3) Now that we've established that the AFL's biggest match is bigger than the nRL's biggest match, let's look at the 4 biggest matches:

AFL Grand Final
AFL biggest Final #1
AFL Biggest Final #2
AFL Biggest Final #3

vs

SOO 1
SOO 2
SOO 3
nRL GF.

I think we'd win that. In terms of attendance it's a bit of a gamble for the AFL dependant on which teams are playing (in 2012 despite finals involving Sydney, Adelaide and West Coast, it was nRL 273k v AFL 318k), but in terms of revenue it's an absolute no-brainer. AFL Grand Final Alone generates $50 million, which is more than the entire State of Origin SERIES (that's including things like NSW and QLD jumper sponsorship btw).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state- ... 6372979674

The State of Origin series generates more than $30 million in revenue

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6479849644#

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

Check

Ummm no you racist ******. The AFL sell also sell thousands of packages which cost over $1.5k each as well. Try again fuckwit.

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

1) congratulations on submitting a post without a reference to penises.
2) So you admit that our biggest match is bigger than your biggest match then?
3) Now that we've established that the AFL's biggest match is bigger than the nRL's biggest match, let's look at the 4 biggest matches:

AFL Grand Final
AFL biggest Final #1
AFL Biggest Final #2
AFL Biggest Final #3

vs

SOO 1
SOO 2
SOO 3
nRL GF.

I think we'd win that. In terms of attendance it's a bit of a gamble for the AFL dependant on which teams are playing (in 2012 despite finals involving Sydney, Adelaide and West Coast, it was nRL 273k v AFL 318k), but in terms of revenue it's an absolute no-brainer. AFL Grand Final Alone generates $50 million, which is more than the entire State of Origin SERIES (that's including things like NSW and QLD jumper sponsorship btw).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state- ... 6372979674

The State of Origin series generates more than $30 million in revenue

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6479849644#

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

Check

Huge problem with your theory.

That more then 30m figure does not included TV rights for the series which in 2011 was about 16m dollars.

Now take into account that the TV ratings for the series went from 10.3m for the 3 games series in 2011 to 11.9m viewers in 2012. In 2013 SOO is tracking for over 12m for the series, the TV right and money Channel nine make of the series is astronomical....

Last year, the QRL commissioned LEK Consulting to value the TV rights to the Origin series and the estimate was $11 million to $16 million, which means the three games represent about a third of what Channel Nine pays annually for all rights to club, finals and representative football.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/everyone ... z2VltjYWsF

This was in 2011 before the new TV deal which more then doubled in 2012........................the series would be worth in the vicinity of 30m just for TV rights annually atm and it will rise as SOO ratings rise.

The revenue the States(QLD,NSW) make during the SOO series is huge. that also is not included in that figure. I also herd during the first SOO game 2013 the state sports minister said on National telly at the start of the broadcast that these games make the state about 10m.


Please trying to compare your 4 largest games to ours is just fraught with disaster and it looks like you took the bait............... :_<> :_<> :_<>

Stewie wrote:

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

1) congratulations on submitting a post without a reference to penises.
2) So you admit that our biggest match is bigger than your biggest match then?
3) Now that we've established that the AFL's biggest match is bigger than the nRL's biggest match, let's look at the 4 biggest matches:

AFL Grand Final
AFL biggest Final #1
AFL Biggest Final #2
AFL Biggest Final #3

vs

SOO 1
SOO 2
SOO 3
nRL GF.

I think we'd win that. In terms of attendance it's a bit of a gamble for the AFL dependant on which teams are playing (in 2012 despite finals involving Sydney, Adelaide and West Coast, it was nRL 273k v AFL 318k), but in terms of revenue it's an absolute no-brainer. AFL Grand Final Alone generates $50 million, which is more than the entire State of Origin SERIES (that's including things like NSW and QLD jumper sponsorship btw).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state- ... 6372979674

The State of Origin series generates more than $30 million in revenue

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6479849644#

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

Check

Ummm no you racist ******. The AFL sell also sell thousands of packages which cost over $1.5k each as well. Try again fuckwit.

Im sorry turd molestor
it still wouldn't get anywhere near 50 Million you halfwitted fuckhead

the sale of a ticket does not include a smoked salmon sandwich & a glass of bubbly & a pre game address by some former fumbler in tight shorts with his jatz crackers sticking out of them

they are corporate PACKAGES ... not tickets
the package comes with a ticket
& we're not talking about that

& the 30 Million for origin .... is Ticket sales & nothing else
not one fauz gras .. or a Bollinger .. included

the VFL GF would be lucky to have 20 Million in actual ticket sales

Raiderdave wrote:

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

ahhhhhhhhh

tell me

how the fuck could the VFL Grand Final generate 50 Million in ticket sales last year
when the most expensive ticket is $390 dollars
http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/a ... 20u75.html
&
there are 100,000 people there

If everyone at the ground including 3 year old children were charged $390 for their seat ( barely 10% would be charged this much & the rest a whole lot less)
the most the gate would be

would be 39 Million







:_<> :_<>

it seems the utter BS .. the complete .. lies .... the rampant crap .. the wankfest ...written about the VFL
knows ... no bounds :>::

This is the third time you haven't read that article. Does your carer not work on weekends? Can you have a friend or relative read it aloud instead?

STOP POSTING ABSURD REPLIES WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLES PEOPLE PROVVIDE AS SOURCES, YOU ******.

The AFL doesn't sell many GA tickets to the GF (a fact bemoaned by many AFL fans). Most of the allocations are for corporate seats that cost several thousand dollars.

When bundled into function and travel packages, about 20,000 seats will rake in at least $30 million.

Corporate boxes for 16 people are being sold for as much as $56,000.

Here's a list of the single seat packages offered for this year's GF: http://www.afleventoffice.com.au/grand_ ... ckages.asp

Read the article I posted, and then come back and apologise for being a ******.

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

1) congratulations on submitting a post without a reference to penises.
2) So you admit that our biggest match is bigger than your biggest match then?
3) Now that we've established that the AFL's biggest match is bigger than the nRL's biggest match, let's look at the 4 biggest matches:

AFL Grand Final
AFL biggest Final #1
AFL Biggest Final #2
AFL Biggest Final #3

vs

SOO 1
SOO 2
SOO 3
nRL GF.

I think we'd win that. In terms of attendance it's a bit of a gamble for the AFL dependant on which teams are playing (in 2012 despite finals involving Sydney, Adelaide and West Coast, it was nRL 273k v AFL 318k), but in terms of revenue it's an absolute no-brainer. AFL Grand Final Alone generates $50 million, which is more than the entire State of Origin SERIES (that's including things like NSW and QLD jumper sponsorship btw).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state- ... 6372979674

The State of Origin series generates more than $30 million in revenue

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6479849644#

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

Check

Ummm no you racist ******. The AFL sell also sell thousands of packages which cost over $1.5k each as well. Try again fuckwit.

Im sorry turd molestor
it still wouldn't get anywhere near 50 Million you halfwitted fuckhead

the sale of a ticket does not include a smoked salmon sandwich & a glass of bubbly & a pre game address by some former fumbler in tight shorts with his jatz crackers sticking out of them

they are corporate PACKAGES ... not tickets
the package comes with a ticket
& we're not talking about that

& the 30 Million for origin .... is Ticket sales & nothing else
not one fauz gras .. or a Bollinger .. included

the VFL GF would be lucky to have 20 Million in actual ticket sales

I'll stand corrected if you can provide a source, but when I was researching SOO revenue, the figure of $30 million was what the series generated in total, not just through ticket sales. This included the $2m that each team earned in jumper sponsorship, the VB sponsorship of the series, everything. Again, i'll happily stand corrected if you can provide a source that says otherwise.

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

1) congratulations on submitting a post without a reference to penises.
2) So you admit that our biggest match is bigger than your biggest match then?
3) Now that we've established that the AFL's biggest match is bigger than the nRL's biggest match, let's look at the 4 biggest matches:

AFL Grand Final
AFL biggest Final #1
AFL Biggest Final #2
AFL Biggest Final #3

vs

SOO 1
SOO 2
SOO 3
nRL GF.

I think we'd win that. In terms of attendance it's a bit of a gamble for the AFL dependant on which teams are playing (in 2012 despite finals involving Sydney, Adelaide and West Coast, it was nRL 273k v AFL 318k), but in terms of revenue it's an absolute no-brainer. AFL Grand Final Alone generates $50 million, which is more than the entire State of Origin SERIES (that's including things like NSW and QLD jumper sponsorship btw).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state- ... 6372979674

The State of Origin series generates more than $30 million in revenue

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6479849644#

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

Check

Ummm no you racist ******. The AFL sell also sell thousands of packages which cost over $1.5k each as well. Try again fuckwit.

Im sorry turd molestor
it still wouldn't get anywhere near 50 Million you halfwitted fuckhead

the sale of a ticket does not include a smoked salmon sandwich & a glass of bubbly & a pre game address by some former fumbler in tight shorts with his jatz crackers sticking out of them

they are corporate PACKAGES ... not tickets
the package comes with a ticket
& we're not talking about that

& the 30 Million for origin .... is Ticket sales & nothing else
not one fauz gras .. or a Bollinger .. included

the VFL GF would be lucky to have 20 Million in actual ticket sales

I'll stand corrected if you can provide a source, but when I was researching SOO revenue, the figure of $30 million was what the series generated in total, not just through ticket sales. This included the $2m that each team earned in jumper sponsorship, the VB sponsorship of the series, everything. Again, i'll happily stand corrected if you can provide a source that says otherwise.

215,000 tickets at an average of $150 a pop is what ?

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

ahhhhhhhhh

tell me

how the fuck could the VFL Grand Final generate 50 Million in ticket sales last year
when the most expensive ticket is $390 dollars
http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/a ... 20u75.html
&
there are 100,000 people there

If everyone at the ground including 3 year old children were charged $390 for their seat ( barely 10% would be charged this much & the rest a whole lot less)
the most the gate would be

would be 39 Million







:_<> :_<>

it seems the utter BS .. the complete .. lies .... the rampant crap .. the wankfest ...written about the VFL
knows ... no bounds :>::

This is the third time you haven't read that article. Does your carer not work on weekends? Can you have a friend or relative read it aloud instead?

STOP POSTING ABSURD REPLIES WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLES PEOPLE PROVVIDE AS SOURCES, YOU ******.

The AFL doesn't sell many GA tickets to the GF (a fact bemoaned by many AFL fans). Most of the allocations are for corporate seats that cost several thousand dollars.

When bundled into function and travel packages, about 20,000 seats will rake in at least $30 million.

Corporate boxes for 16 people are being sold for as much as $56,000.

Here's a list of the single seat packages offered for this year's GF: http://www.afleventoffice.com.au/grand_ ... ckages.asp

Read the article I posted, and then come back and apologise for being a ******.

travel packages



well here
our most expensive .. packages go for $2350.00 per person
but don't include travel

http://www.therugbyleagueexperience.com ... inal-2013/

F me
what next
the cost of a call girl on yr room tab included in that 50 Mill


ticket sales
means the price of tickets times the number sold

not some toffed up wankfest on offer
seriously
including the cost of the air fare shows what tools I'm dealing with here

The delusion in Fumble land is stronger then ever Boys........................ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

eelofwest wrote:

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

1) congratulations on submitting a post without a reference to penises.
2) So you admit that our biggest match is bigger than your biggest match then?
3) Now that we've established that the AFL's biggest match is bigger than the nRL's biggest match, let's look at the 4 biggest matches:

AFL Grand Final
AFL biggest Final #1
AFL Biggest Final #2
AFL Biggest Final #3

vs

SOO 1
SOO 2
SOO 3
nRL GF.

I think we'd win that. In terms of attendance it's a bit of a gamble for the AFL dependant on which teams are playing (in 2012 despite finals involving Sydney, Adelaide and West Coast, it was nRL 273k v AFL 318k), but in terms of revenue it's an absolute no-brainer. AFL Grand Final Alone generates $50 million, which is more than the entire State of Origin SERIES (that's including things like NSW and QLD jumper sponsorship btw).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state- ... 6372979674

The State of Origin series generates more than $30 million in revenue

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6479849644#

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

Check

Huge problem with your theory.

That more then 30m figure does not included TV rights for the series which in 2011 was about 16m dollars.

Now take into account that the TV ratings for the series went from 10.3m for the 3 games series in 2011 to 11.9m viewers in 2012. In 2013 SOO is tracking for over 12m for the series, the TV right and money Channel nine make of the series is astronomical....

Last year, the QRL commissioned LEK Consulting to value the TV rights to the Origin series and the estimate was $11 million to $16 million, which means the three games represent about a third of what Channel Nine pays annually for all rights to club, finals and representative football.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/everyone ... z2VltjYWsF

This was in 2011 before the new TV deal which more then doubled in 2012........................the series would be worth in the vicinity of 30m just for TV rights annually atm and it will rise as SOO ratings rise.

The revenue the States(QLD,NSW) make during the SOO series is huge. that also is not included in that figure. I also herd during the first SOO game 2013 the state sports minister said on National telly at the start of the broadcast that these games make the state about 10m.


Please trying to compare your 4 largest games to ours is just fraught with disaster and it looks like you took the bait............... :_<> :_<> :_<>

I'm going to try to break this down to simple, rational points. Bear with me.

1) The LEK report was commissioned when the nRL was going to break the rights up and sell SOO separately. They didn't end up doing that, so it's not possible to say definitively what SOO is worth from a TV rights perspective, nor is it possible to gauge the exact worth of the AFL Grand Final from a $$ perspective. The AFL GF goes for longer and has more ad breaks, it rates better in the capital cities, etc. Also, ratings certainly help the bottom line of the network, but the sports don't see any extra money from it until rights negotiations time.

2) The $50m figure for the AFL GF is JUST from tickets. That's not including signage, sponsorship, the money from the Vic gov, etc.

3) Getting into what states make from events is tricky, but AFL fans travel in numbers that nRL fans simply don't. There were like 5 bays of QLDers at SOO I, and there's no telling how many of those live in Sydney already. I'm sure you'll agree that more Collingwood fans made the trip to Sydney for last year's prelim than made the trip from Brisbane for last wednesday's SOO. A similar story for the Hawks v Crows match. LOTS of people from Adelaide travelled, filling hotels and pubs (and throwing themselves off of bridges after ). Then there's the AFL GF being on during the day, with people buying BBQ supplies etc. Point is, neither side can't definitively say they generate more money for state economies in their 4 biggest matches.

4) that leaves us with match attendance and match revenue. Which the AFL wins handily.

eelofwest wrote:

The delusion in Fumble land is stronger then ever Boys........................ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

seriously
they'll want to put room service & the cost of ear phones on the flight ova into this fanciful 50 million figure eels
its just embarrassing
I mean
what complete dicks

Raiderdave wrote:

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Drac wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

wanna compare our 4 biggest gates to yours you wombat ?

1) congratulations on submitting a post without a reference to penises.
2) So you admit that our biggest match is bigger than your biggest match then?
3) Now that we've established that the AFL's biggest match is bigger than the nRL's biggest match, let's look at the 4 biggest matches:

AFL Grand Final
AFL biggest Final #1
AFL Biggest Final #2
AFL Biggest Final #3

vs

SOO 1
SOO 2
SOO 3
nRL GF.

I think we'd win that. In terms of attendance it's a bit of a gamble for the AFL dependant on which teams are playing (in 2012 despite finals involving Sydney, Adelaide and West Coast, it was nRL 273k v AFL 318k), but in terms of revenue it's an absolute no-brainer. AFL Grand Final Alone generates $50 million, which is more than the entire State of Origin SERIES (that's including things like NSW and QLD jumper sponsorship btw).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/state- ... 6372979674

The State of Origin series generates more than $30 million in revenue

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/a ... 6479849644#

GRAND Final ticket sales will top $50 million

Check

Ummm no you racist ******. The AFL sell also sell thousands of packages which cost over $1.5k each as well. Try again fuckwit.

Im sorry turd molestor
it still wouldn't get anywhere near 50 Million you halfwitted fuckhead

the sale of a ticket does not include a smoked salmon sandwich & a glass of bubbly & a pre game address by some former fumbler in tight shorts with his jatz crackers sticking out of them

they are corporate PACKAGES ... not tickets
the package comes with a ticket
& we're not talking about that

& the 30 Million for origin .... is Ticket sales & nothing else
not one fauz gras .. or a Bollinger .. included

the VFL GF would be lucky to have 20 Million in actual ticket sales

I'll stand corrected if you can provide a source, but when I was researching SOO revenue, the figure of $30 million was what the series generated in total, not just through ticket sales. This included the $2m that each team earned in jumper sponsorship, the VB sponsorship of the series, everything. Again, i'll happily stand corrected if you can provide a source that says otherwise.

215,000 tickets at an average of $150 a pop is what ?

That's not how averages work......

If you're going to ignore my sources simply because they counter your argument, we're done here, you child.

Raiderdave wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

The delusion in Fumble land is stronger then ever Boys........................ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

seriously
they'll want to put room service & the cost of ear phones on the flight ova into this fanciful 50 million figure eels
its just embarrassing
I mean
what complete dicks

Penis reference.

Then there's the AFL GF being on during the day, with people buying BBQ supplies etc.

well we can't leave out the cost of Woolies bulk pack bangers & tomato sauce on special

yep
that's straight into the 50 Mill




oh good lord
they're serious folks
dead serious