Xman wrote:Wrong.
Auskick is a minimum of 6 week program to be counted.
And they're not counted. The definition of an Auskick participant is a minimum 6 week course. Clinics like that are therefore excludedRaiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Wrong.
Auskick is a minimum of 6 week program to be counted.
auskick in schools up this way .... is not
they turn up once ... maybe twice & try & entice kids to the longer program .. or club football
many many .. in fact .. most do neither
ALL are counted ... its the biggest fudge in Australian sport
136K is how many times more then 34K d head ?
Xman wrote:So 30,000 kids played RL at school in Victoria, but there are only 7-10 clubs in the entire state......Raiderdave wrote:here ya go Marcus
this is from 2009..... so 3 years old
stating 34,119 " paticipants " took part in some from of RL that year
I'd say that figure has grown ...
now.. is say 35,000 .... 50 times smaller then 136,000 marcus ?
Growth in Victorian Rugby League
Bellow is an article detailing the list of successes that have accompanied the 2009 season.
I would just like to say one thing before you read it. Even i find this amazing. In as early as 2004, the VRL did not look to be in good health and what seems to have happened in just 5 years is staggering! This should give us all great hope for the future of our game.
Originally Posted by VRL - Year in review
The Victorian Rugby League (VRL) continued the upward trend of recent seasons recording growth and expansion in all areas in 2009. There were outstanding results achieved in club and schools participation, and unprecedented outcomes throughout the various representative programs including a Victorian presence for the first time in the SG Ball competition.
The VRL Junior and Senior competitions have both continued the recent trends of significant growth during the 2009 season. The junior competitions recorded a 30% increase in player registrations in 2009 and this growth can be attributed to the continued terrific work undertaken by Development Officers who have established excellent links within the primary and secondary school systems.
The Senior competition also recorded an increase in registered participants in the 2009 season. This growth can be largely attributed to the introduction of a Division Two competition in 2009. The Senior clubs are to be congratulated for embracing the concept of growth in the Senior competition and have been the major driver behind the success of the Division Two concept.
The Melbourne Storm Development Schools program continued to deliver Rugby League programs to primary and secondary school students in Victoria. There were 34,119 participants involved in School based Rugby League which is an increase on the 2008 results.
The Victorian Primary School Sports Association (VPSSA) Under 12 team participated in the National Exchange in Canberra from August 8th – 15th. The Under 12 team was coached by Dean Andrew from the VPSSA and assisted by Shane Griffin from Melbourne Storm Development. The VPSSA Exchange was the first representative opportunity for the 17 players involved in the program, and the team learnt a great deal from their 8th placing at the 2009 National Exchange.
The Victorian Rugby League Secondary Schools Representative Program enjoyed an extremely successful year. There were 51 Victorian players given the opportunity to participate in the 2009 15 and 18 Years Australian Secondary School Rugby League (ASSRL) National Championships in the Victorian and Combined Affiliated States (CAS) teams.
The Victorian 15 Years team participated in the ASSRL Championships in Adelaide from June 27 to July 3. The 15 Years team was coached by Gary Whicker and he was assisted by Alex Pynor. The team opened the Championships on a positive note with a dominant 40-10 victory over Western Australia. The Victorian team met their Pool B rivals the Northern Territory and went down 26 -16 in a closely contested game. The 15 Years team rebounded strongly from this loss defeating South Australia 76 – 0 and booking their place in the Pool B Final.
The Victorian team competed strongly in the first half in the Pool B Final against the undefeated Northern Territory team with the scores locked at 6 all at half time. The Northern Territory clicked into gear in the second half and showed their class to defeat a gallant Victorian team 24 – 6.
The Victorian 15 Years team had six players selected in the 2009 15 Years Pool B Merit team with Hayden Butler (Mount Waverely Secondary College), Richard Faleo-Kennar (Roxburgh Secondary College), Reagan Umi (Dandenong Secondary College), Jackson Brenchley (Norwood Secondary College), Phillip Salue (Hallam Secondary College) and Michael Williams (Cranbourne Secondary College) receiving an Affiliated States Australian jersey.
The 18 Years program provides Victorian players with the opportunity to be selected for the Combined Affiliated States (CAS) that participates in Pool A of the ASSRL Championships. The Affiliated States conducted a selection trial from May 14-16 in Adelaide to choose the 18 Years Pool A CAS team. The Victorian team and players were outstanding over the three day selection period and 11 Victorian players chosen for the Pool A CAS team.
The success of having 11 players selected in the 18 Years Pool A CAS team provided additional opportunities and challenges for the 18 Years Pool B program. The opportunities resulted in 11 ‘new’ players being given the chance to represent Victoria in Pool B of the 2009 18 Years ASSRL National Championships. The challenge to compete against the other States in Pool B with half a new team was manfully embraced by the coaching staff and the players.
The VRL had an interest in both Pool A and Pool B of the 18 Years ASSRL National Championships that were held in Newcastle from July 12 – 17. The CAS team, containing 11 Victorian players, participated in Pool A of the Championships and similar to 2008 had a frustrating week losing close games against NSWCIS and ACT. The 2008 ‘CAS 2point Curse’ returned in Game One of the 2009 Championships with the CAS team going down to NSWCIS 18-16. The ‘curse’ almost reappeared in Game Two of the Championships with a last minute conversion by the ACT going wide resulting in a 28- all draw. The loss and draw in first two games of the Championships relegated the CAS teams to return match ups against the NSWCIS and ACT teams that resulted in 22-14 and 34-16 losses.
The Victoria 18’s team participated in Pool B of the 2009 18 Years ASSRL National Championships. The team was coached by Dylan Hides and he was assisted by Jamie Fardell. The 18 Years team started the Championships impressively with a 56-24 win over South Australia on Day One and a 26-14 victory over Western Australia on Day Two of the Championships. These two wins ensured that the Victorian teams qualified for the Pool B Final, however a round robin match up against the other undefeated Pool B team Northern Territory had to be navigated prior to the Final.
The Victorian team were blown away by the Northern Territory team in this round robin game going down 44 – 16 and earning the underdog status for the Pool B Final. The Victorian 18 Years team lifted for the Pool B Final at Energy Australia Stadium and turned the tables on the Territorians claiming the Pool B 18 Years Sam Davey Plate for the first time since 1998 with an impressive 36-24 victory.
The Victorian Open’s Representative team participated in the ARL Affiliated States Championships in Melbourne from June 4-6. The team was coached by Melbourne Storm Premiership 1999 player Matt Rua and he was assisted by Melbourne Storm SG Ball assistant coach John Winder. The Victorian team dominated the Championships in the ‘home comforts’ of Melbourne and defeated Western Australia in the Affiliated States National Championships Final 36-16.
The Victorian Open’s team had nine players selected in the 2009 Affiliated States Australian team with Keni Blair (Sunbury Tigers), Corey Timothy (Altona Roosters),
Aiden Hema (Altona Roosters), Caine Sinclair (Altona Roosters), Chad Jones (Altona Roosters), James Uttafe (Doveton Steelers), Gerrard Tibbets (Sunbury Tigers), Malo Feterika (Waverley/Oakleigh), Teariki Bennion (Altona Roosters) and Darcy Etrich (Waverley/Oakleigh) representing the Affiliated States in their tour of Cook Islands.
The 2009 Junior Competition Grand Finals were played on Saturday September 5 at Loft Reserve, Doveton. Congratulations to the Altona Roosters JRLFC for hosting a very successful Grand Final Day. The seven junior divisions were won by six different clubs which highlights the increased depth that exists throughout the junior competition. All games were played in terrific spirit with excellent sportsmanship shown by the players.
Victorian representative Darcy Etrich
Below are the results from the 2009 Victorian Rugby League Junior Grand Finals:
Girls Tag: Grand Final: Waverley/Oak. Panthers 20 def Northern Thunder 12
Under 11's - Grand Final: Northern Thunder 34 def South Eastern Titans 10
Under 12's - Grand Final: South Eastern Titans 22 def Northern Thunder 18
Under 13's - Grand Final: Casey Chiefs 44 def Altona Roosters 10
Under 14's - Grand Final: Northern Thunder 16 def Craigieburn Phoenix 4
Under 16's - Grand Final: Altona Roosters 14 def South Eastern Titans 12
Under 18's - Grand Final: Moorabbin Rams 38 def Northern Thunder 26
The Goulburn Murray Rugby League continued to grow their Junior Competition and the introduction of the Corowa Cougars in 2009 added to the further vibrancy of the competition. The competition comprised of Under 7’s, 9’s, 11’s, 13’s and 15’s age groups. The competition is projected for further growth in the 2010 season and the Goulburn Murray Rugby League Executive is to be congratulated for their commitment in growing the game in North East Victoria.
The Sunraysia Rugby League was formally launched with a four team senior competition being conducted involving the Dareton Dragons, Irymple Titans, Robinvale Sea Eagles and Mildura West Tigers in 2009. The competition is set to expand with the introduction of a junior competition in 2010 which will further solidify the game of Rugby League in North West Victoria.
The 2009 Senior Competition Grand Finals were played on Sunday September 6 at Casey Fields, Cranbourne. The Casey Sharks hosted an excellent day and the Committee are to be congratulated for their efforts.
The 2009 Women’s Tag Grand Final provided the opportunity for the Altona Roosters to break through for their first Grand Final win and also avenge their 2008 loss to the Moorabbin Rams. The Roosters prevailed in a tense and exciting encounter 18-6 to finally claim the Women’s Tag silverware.
In Division Two the Werribee Bears created history in their inaugural season taking out the 2009 Victorian Rugby League Division Two Grand Final. The Bears defeated perennial powerhouse the Altona Roosters 22-18 in a see sawing contest. The Roosters settled well early scoring in the 2nd minute to race to a 6-0 lead. The Bears with the advantage of a strong win in the first half settled into their rhythm and posted the next 22 points of the game to go into half time with a commanding 22-6 lead. The significance of the breeze became more apparent in the second half and when Altona score their second try of the half with 10 minutes remaining the Grand Final was in the balance. The Bears defended their line manfully to hold out the fast finishing Roosters to claim the 2009 crown.
In First Grade the Sunbury Tigers won its first Victorian Rugby League First Grade Premiership when they outclassed the Casey Sharks 48-10 in the 2009 Grand Final. The Tigers had easily accounted for the Sharks in their previous two meetings through the home and away season and went into the game full of confidence. This confidence would have been slightly jilted when Matt Currie drop the ball from the kick off gifting Casey possession ten metres from the Sunbury line. The Sunbury defence stood up to the initial Casey onslaught and were able to go the length of the field to scored on their first set through Brendan Train. The Tigers continued to put pressure on the shaky Sharks defence and subsequent tries to Michael Faamausili, Josh Jerome, Terry Constantinou and Matt Croker effectively ended the game at half time with the Tigers holding a commanding 30-10 lead. The second half was merely the clubs playing out time, however the highlight was the try scored by Sunbury 148 game veteran to put the icing on the Sunbury cake.
The Victorian Rugby League Commission and staff would like to thank the Victorian Primary School Sports Association (VPSSA) and Australian Secondary Schools Rugby League (ASSRL) for their continued commitment and support of primary and secondary schools Rugby League. We would also like to recognise the support provided to the Victorian Rugby League by the Australian Rugby League (ARL) and Australian Rugby League Development (ARLD), Melbourne Storm RLFC, Sport and Recreation Victoria and Vic Health.
The Victorian Rugby League would also like to thank all clubs, players, coaches, volunteers, parents and helpers who were involved in the various Victorian Rugby League programs and competitions during the 2009 season.
Joe Messina
General Manager – Victorian Rugby League
Xman wrote:23 ARs leagues in NSW to 1 RL in Victoria Dave....
Any more leagues yet?
It was a complete guess. How proud you must be that its more like 23 times!Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:23 ARs leagues in NSW to 1 RL in Victoria Dave....
Any more leagues yet?
23 to 1..... is that 50 times bigger d head ?
so it seems you're struggling to find anything .. anywhere ... where VFL is 50 times bigger in NSW then RL is in Victoria
like you said it was
wow
failure is becoming so common with you these days its beyond the pale
lift yr game son
lift yr game
Xman wrote:It was a complete guess. How proud you must be that its more like 23 times!Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:23 ARs leagues in NSW to 1 RL in Victoria Dave....
Any more leagues yet?
23 to 1..... is that 50 times bigger d head ?
so it seems you're struggling to find anything .. anywhere ... where VFL is 50 times bigger in NSW then RL is in Victoria
like you said it was
wow
failure is becoming so common with you these days its beyond the pale
lift yr game son
lift yr game
http://www.sportingpulse.com/get_file.cgi?id=2148289
NSW Auskick:
10,600 at Club Auskick (22%)
21,000 in School Auskick (44%)
16,400 in community Auskick (34%)
Total: 48,000
That's a bit less than 100k isnt it Dave?
Well youre claiming 2600 players from 10 clubs at 260 a club. There are 66 clubs in the Sydney area plus Newcastle and the central coast. There are more players in an ARs team than AFL so probably 400 players per club. That's 26k juniors in Sydney/Newcastle only. Even more when including seniors.Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:It was a complete guess. How proud you must be that its more like 23 times!Raiderdave wrote:
23 to 1..... is that 50 times bigger d head ?
so it seems you're struggling to find anything .. anywhere ... where VFL is 50 times bigger in NSW then RL is in Victoria
like you said it was
wow
failure is becoming so common with you these days its beyond the pale
lift yr game son
lift yr game
http://www.sportingpulse.com/get_file.cgi?id=2148289
NSW Auskick:
10,600 at Club Auskick (22%)
21,000 in School Auskick (44%)
16,400 in community Auskick (34%)
Total: 48,000
That's a bit less than 100k isnt it Dave?
are you seriously suggesting there are 88,000 registered CLUB based vicky kicky players in NSW ?
I mean .. I know you're a dribbling minda ... but have a think about it
there are 7694 club players in Sydney senior & junior ( from the VFL's own report )Xman wrote:Well youre claiming 2600 players from 10 clubs at 260 a club. There are 66 clubs in the Sydney area plus Newcastle and the central coast. There are more players in an ARs team than AFL so probably 400 players per club. That's 26k juniors in Sydney/Newcastle only. Even more when including seniors.Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:It was a complete guess. How proud you must be that its more like 23 times!
http://www.sportingpulse.com/get_file.cgi?id=2148289
NSW Auskick:
10,600 at Club Auskick (22%)
21,000 in School Auskick (44%)
16,400 in community Auskick (34%)
Total: 48,000
That's a bit less than 100k isnt it Dave?
are you seriously suggesting there are 88,000 registered CLUB based vicky kicky players in NSW ?
I mean .. I know you're a dribbling minda ... but have a think about it
Now there are only 6 leagues for all these teams yet we know their are 23 leagues in NSW.
Do the math Dave
Raiderdave wrote:
7K is a tremendous turnout
Dave i am not surprised at all, Xman the biggest fibber known to sports forums.....Raiderdave wrote:Marcus has had a little willy whacking fit today about the VFL's supposed number of " leagues " throughout NSW
of which there are 23 .. according him
a league is a competition involving clubs
a club is a collection of teams
I understand VFL age comps start at Under 10's ...
so lets say there are 7 junior age groups ( 10's to 16's) & 3 senior age groups ( 18's , res & 1st ) for all 23 Leagues in NSW
thats 230 comps throughout NSW
& lets say theres 10 teams in every comp ... meaning theres 2300 teams in NSW
theres 28,500 regsitered club players in NSW in 2012 according to their own website
http://aflnswact.com.au/index.php?id=5& ... 0ae8aeeff2
meaning theres
12 players a team on average
how can there be 23 functioning leagues
& only 28K players in them
more VFL BS at work here folks
its hilarious
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