the VFL , officially a disgrace

[Xman]

No one can deny the penalties the AFL hand down are FAR more severe than the nRL For similar offences.

[Striker]

There are no similar offences, X! The AFL is the only competition that has a draft!

[Xman]

There are no similar offences, X! The AFL is the only competition that has a draft!

The draft was a minor issue in the offence, thats one reason the penalty wasnt as severe as carltons. In addition, they copped draft sanctions that covered that component. Plus they copped fines well in excess of NRL punishments

[Striker]

Draft dodging was the MAIN issue, dimwit!! If not the ONLY one!!

[Stewie]

So we can disregard all articles written in Sydney or Brisbane ?
Oh Dave, number 5 flanger today!

Poor old Dopey Dave's having a bad run of late, isn't he?

we disregard them if they are nothing but biased fluff ......

the VFL did not punish the buzzards to any degree that saves this vile sports credibility .... End of

Because losing 2 first round and 2 second round draft picks in consecutive years, losing a player who they thought would help them win a premiership for nothing, a $300,000 fine, suspending two important club directors for half a year with no football involvement until then isn't enough of a punishment for tampering with the draft for just one player?

Get your act together Raiderdave, you damn well know it was a big punishment.

What about the weak punishments the nRL handed out to teams who were hundreds of thousands of $ over the salary cap? nRL is a disgrace.. no integrity anywhere.

[Striker]

The Crows should have been kicked out of the draft for longer than that. One player loss? Peanuts. $300,000 fine? Should have been $1 million. The club directors should have been suspended for life.

THAT is a big punishment, Stew!

[Stewie]

The Crows should have been kicked out of the draft for longer than that. One player loss? Peanuts. $300,000 fine? Should have been $1 million. The club directors should have been suspended for life.

THAT is a big punishment, Stew!

That's an unnecessarily big punishment for only 1 player being paid a few thousand outside the salary cap. Unlike the Storm who were actually paying well over the salary cap total which is much worse. And what about the nRL teams who have also been hundreds of thousands of $ over the cap but only copped a small fine? Pathetic.

[Xman]

The Crows should have been kicked out of the draft for longer than that. One player loss? Peanuts. $300,000 fine? Should have been $1 million. The club directors should have been suspended for life.

THAT is a big punishment, Stew!

Which would have eclipsed every NRL punishment except the storm, despite being 20% of the warriors breach

[Striker]

No it would have eclipsed the Storm.

[Xman]

No it would have eclipsed the Storm.

So the crows breaches were worse than multi million dollar organised deception by the storm?

What utter trash

[eelofwest]

Something not adding up, but getting the full story out of the Adelaide Crows hierarchy is proving extremely difficult

Craig Cook
The Advertiser
December 04, 2012 12:00AM

Adelaide Crows chairman Rob Chapman has thrown his complete support behind embattled chief executive Steven Triggs. Getty Images


There have been no resignations down at the Adelaide Crows but there are far more questions than answers still hanging around.

Something is just not adding up in this story but dragging the complete picture out of the Crows hierarchy is proving as easy as knitting custard.

Chairman Rob Chapman says he too would be demanding the head of Steven Trigg as chief executive if he didn't have all the facts in front of him.

But those outside of the inner sanctum are yet to hear what are the compelling facts that will enable Trigg to return to his job after a six-month ban.

Looking on from the outer it seems that from August 2011 onwards Trigg did not tell his board everything it needed to know - when it needed to know it. Given what has happened of late that should be a sacking offence.

Apparently Trigg regarded the whole situation as a "manageable risk".

He was dead right about the risk factor and totally over-estimated his capacity to manage it.

In such circumstances, Trigg must have exceptional qualities to be attracting such universal and staunch support to keep his job.

His sabbatical to study "world's best practice" at other sporting organisations is going to have to reveal some serious jewels of wisdom to compensate for the situation in which the Crows find themselves.

What has happened to the Crows is far worse than the club is prepared to admit.

Within the space of a few months its reputation has been trashed, its credibility compromised and on-field success placed in jeopardy.

The primary defence of the Adelaide Football Club seems to be, "we're not as bad as Carlton", which is bordering on embarrassing.

Chapman's determination to head the charge to the brave new world is admirable but ill-judged.

Taking phone calls and answering e-mails from fans shows his passion and commitment to righting the listing ship but filling in for Trigg as chief executive is a step too far. The dual roles are not compatible.

Who knew what and when in the Kurt Tippett affair has not been adequately answered.

The Crows need to address these matters without equivocation.

If not the club motto of Natus Ad Magna Gerenda (Born to Great Things), is in danger of being replaced by, "Oh what a tangled web we weave - when first we practise to deceive."



Could not have described the AFL better myself.....

[Xman]

It was a comment about the Crows you muppett

The only people saying the crows penalty was light are those comparing the punishment to Carlton's more severe breaches.

Surely you're not comparing them to the NRL's farcicle punishments? If the AFL used a lettuce leaf on the Crows the NRL have used a blade of grass on all their offenders, except the storm.

[Raiderdave]

The Crows should have been kicked out of the draft for longer than that. One player loss? Peanuts. $300,000 fine? Should have been $1 million. The club directors should have been suspended for life.

THAT is a big punishment, Stew!

Which would have eclipsed every NRL punishment except the storm, despite being 20% of the warriors breach

the Warriors LOST 4 comp points for their following season D head for their indescretion
a massive penalty

they started on MINUS 4 points at the start of the year
FMD

know something .. before posting

[Raiderdave]

It was a comment about the Crows you muppett

The only people saying the crows penalty was light are those comparing the punishment to Carlton's more severe breaches.

Surely you're not comparing them to the NRL's farcicle punishments? If the AFL used a lettuce leaf on the Crows the NRL have used a blade of grass on all their offenders, except the storm.

but but but
Storm .... 48 comp pts removed
Bulldogs ... 37 comp pts removed
Warriors .... 4 comp points removed before comp even started


VFL ... a pat on the rump ... & one of these .. for the sparrows

a low .. vile .... seedy ... corrupt .. sport

[piesman2011]

Team performance since they have been penalised:

NRL (where cheaters prosper)
Storm: 1 premiership 2012 (2 years after breach penalties) and 1 minor premiership 2011 (year after)
Bulldogs: 1 premiership (2 years after penalties)
Warriors: Runners up 2011 (5 years after penalties)

AFL:
Carlton: best 5th spot about 9 years after sanctions. 2 Woodenspoons (after 0 in 140 years)

Now tell me which comp is better at punishing cheating teams.