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And lets get this straight. The AFL have several highly ambiguous 'criteria' for their 'participation' numbers 'schools'

King-Eliagh wrote:

And lets get this straight. The AFL have several highly ambiguous 'criteria' for their 'participation' numbers 'schools'

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... eation~116

King-Eliagh wrote:

And lets get this straight. The AFL have several highly ambiguous 'criteria' for their 'participation' numbers 'schools'

Since when are schools ambiguous? Are you including fish?

'schools' dont participate. fudge fudge

King-Eliagh wrote:

'schools' dont participate. fudge fudge

Link?

You need to think more Xman.

How does a 'school' participate? Schools dont play the sport last I recall. Humans do. The AFL participation category 'schools' is a catch all. Comprehende?

King-Eliagh wrote:

You need to think more Xman.

How does a 'school' participate? Schools dont play the sport last I recall. Humans do. The AFL participation category 'schools' is a catch all. Comprehende?

are you suggesting the AFL include all pupils in the entire school?

King-Eliagh wrote:

'schools' dont participate. fudge fudge

(a) Children aged 5–14 years who participated in organised sport (excluding dancing) outside of school hours during the 12 months prior to interview in April 2009.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... eation~116

ARs was around 2 and a half times RL for juniors 5-14yrs EXCLUDING SCHOOLS ACTIVITIES

Thats fantastic Xman. But it doesnt answer the ambiguity around the AFL's 'schools' participation category now does it?

Lets keep this discussion I've raised focused rather than running around the ABS website and having lil premature ejaculations when you spot something pro AFL, shall we?

King-Eliagh wrote:

Thats fantastic Xman. But it doesnt answer the ambiguity around the AFL's 'schools' participation category now does it?

Lets keep this discussion I've raised focused rather than running around the ABS website and having lil premature ejaculations when you spot something pro AFL, shall we?

I claimed the ARs participation numbers were higher than RL and you insinuated the ARs numbers were fudged because of the school criteria. I showed you the ABS figures still show a healthy advantage to ARs and excluded school activities.

What's the problem?

Stewie wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

ah ..... theres an 83,000 seat stadium ..... 400 metres from GWS's home ground
that they choose NOT to use for fear that their 7500 crowds would look bad in it ......
when one knows as little as you do.. best check a few things out before posting ..... & save yourself looking like a complete d.ick

K

Gotta say Pies one of your worst comments to date, pick up your game.

You are comparing GWS with the wanderers.....

The wanderers shit all over the midgets, the wanderers will be a big soccer club wait and see. The junior participation in western Sydney for soccer is on Par with rugby league in the area if not even more then league, what makes you think the midgets are even mentioned in the same breath as the wanderers.??

Western Sydney is soccer heartland, all you have to do is look at all the big names in Australian soccer in years past and at present to see that most of them come from western Sydney.

I know countless Wanderers fans that are Eels fans first and foremost but will support then wanderers in the summer, if Soccer wants to go winter sport it will get murdered by league, if it stays summer then it will flourish imo.

Soccer participation in western Sydney is not anywhere near "equal" to Rl, it smashes Rl participation rates. Rl is an unpopular sport to play (for good reason), soccer is very popular amongst kids hence the high participation rates. However it's been well proven that high participation rates do not equal high level support for that sport. Soccer in America is huge at a junior level, but interest in the MLS is tiny compared to the "big 4" American sports. Same goes for Australia with high level participation for both soccer and basketball, but interest in the A-League and NBL is nothing compared to the AFL. (A-League interest is bigger than nRL in most states of Australia these days).

(A-League interest is bigger than nRL in most states of Australia these days).

I am not surprised you were kicked from LU, you have no idea mate. I think it is time we stick you in the mentle home with Cos, you are about as delusional as he is and that is saying something...

Hang on COS is this your alias?

eelofwest wrote:

Stewie wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Gotta say Pies one of your worst comments to date, pick up your game.

You are comparing GWS with the wanderers.....

The wanderers shit all over the midgets, the wanderers will be a big soccer club wait and see. The junior participation in western Sydney for soccer is on Par with rugby league in the area if not even more then league, what makes you think the midgets are even mentioned in the same breath as the wanderers.??

Western Sydney is soccer heartland, all you have to do is look at all the big names in Australian soccer in years past and at present to see that most of them come from western Sydney.

I know countless Wanderers fans that are Eels fans first and foremost but will support then wanderers in the summer, if Soccer wants to go winter sport it will get murdered by league, if it stays summer then it will flourish imo.

Soccer participation in western Sydney is not anywhere near "equal" to Rl, it smashes Rl participation rates. Rl is an unpopular sport to play (for good reason), soccer is very popular amongst kids hence the high participation rates. However it's been well proven that high participation rates do not equal high level support for that sport. Soccer in America is huge at a junior level, but interest in the MLS is tiny compared to the "big 4" American sports. Same goes for Australia with high level participation for both soccer and basketball, but interest in the A-League and NBL is nothing compared to the AFL. (A-League interest is bigger than nRL in most states of Australia these days).

(A-League interest is bigger than nRL in most states of Australia these days).

I am not surprised you were kicked from LU, you have no idea mate. I think it is time we stick you in the mentle home with Cos, you are about as delusional as he is and that is saying something...

Hang on COS is this your alias?

This is the kind of pathetic response I expected . It's easy to tell when you guys get stuck on something because the post is an epic derail of the OP. You know you're struggling when you start to mention aliases...

Xman wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Thats fantastic Xman. But it doesnt answer the ambiguity around the AFL's 'schools' participation category now does it?

Lets keep this discussion I've raised focused rather than running around the ABS website and having lil premature ejaculations when you spot something pro AFL, shall we?

I claimed the ARs participation numbers were higher than RL and you insinuated the ARs numbers were fudged because of the school criteria. I showed you the ABS figures still show a healthy advantage to ARs and excluded school activities.

What's the problem?

Why bend the truth Xman? Are you feeling slightly illegitimate?

I stated "The AFL have several highly ambiguous 'criteria' for their 'participation' numbers". Not talking about the ABS however if the AFL come out stating fudged participation numbers then we must also ask where the ABS gets their figures, with or without the bogus 'schools' category.

Keep to the topic my friend.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Xman wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Thats fantastic Xman. But it doesnt answer the ambiguity around the AFL's 'schools' participation category now does it?

Lets keep this discussion I've raised focused rather than running around the ABS website and having lil premature ejaculations when you spot something pro AFL, shall we?

I claimed the ARs participation numbers were higher than RL and you insinuated the ARs numbers were fudged because of the school criteria. I showed you the ABS figures still show a healthy advantage to ARs and excluded school activities.

What's the problem?

Why bend the truth Xman? Are you feeling slightly illegitimate?

I stated "The AFL have several highly ambiguous 'criteria' for their 'participation' numbers". Not talking about the ABS however if the AFL come out stating fudged participation numbers then we must also ask where the ABS gets their figures, with or without the bogus 'schools' category.

Keep to the topic my friend.

Yeah, and I showed you that even using independant figures ARs still smashes RL for participation numbers, which confirmed my original claim.

How the AFL categorize participation numbers is irrelevant to this discussion. Keep on topic please!

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT A NEW TEAM IN A AREA WITH GRASSROOTS ALREADY FLOURISHING?


STUNNED Brisbane coach Rado Vidosic conceded the Roar were lucky to only lose 1-0 to Western Sydney Wanderers, who caused arguably the biggest boilover in A-League history tonight.

Without a goal, let alone a win, heading into the Suncorp Stadium contest against the team widely regarded as the best since the competition's inception in 2005, the Wanderers out-committed and out-enthused the sluggish and complacent Roar.

Journeyman striker Mark Bridge created history in the 19th minute when he scored the Wanderers' first A-League goal.

Having gone 288 minutes without scoring, the A-League newcomers finally found the back of the net when former Newcastle Jets and Sydney FC attacker Bridge got in front of Brisbane fullback Jack Hingert to head home a precise cross from Youssouf Hersi.

It was a well-deserved lead for the Wanderers, who dominated from the outset in bustling the Roar, who before the game were the shortest-priced favourites in A-League history, out of a contest played in front of 12,663 fans.

"They should have punished us with a few more goals,'' admitted Vidosic, who was at a loss to explain the Roar's woeful display.

"I don't know if it was a little bit of fatigue or complacency. We need to have a good look at the video and talk to the players and find out.''

Berisha

Source: The Courier-Mail

Vidosic was reluctant to find excuses, but said the Roar's recent schedule, which has included trips to Perth and Wellington, might have taken its toll, despite encouraging signs on the training paddock before the upset.

Wanderers coach Tony Popovic felt the historic victory was coming despite his side's failure to score in their opening three games of the season.

"The stats don't lie, we hadn't scored, but there was no lack of confidence in this group,'' the proud Popovic said.

"We haven't dwelled on the situation. We came here with a belief we could win the game if we played well, and in the end we did that.

"At no stage did we doubt ourselves before the match. It would have been an injustice really if we didn't come away with those three points.''

The visitors could not have come closer to scoring in just the fourth minute when key midfielder Aaron Mooy unleashd with a long-strike that amazingly hit both posts but failed to cross the goal-line.

Jerrad Tyson

Source: Getty Images

The out-of-sorts Roar had few chances during the contest but did enough to create two genuine opportunities in the first half, which Ben Halloran and Mitch Nichols failed to convert.

However, the Roar did little else as they slumped to their second defeat in four matches this season.

They have been joined on four points by the Wanderers, whose best result before the win was their first-round 0-0 draw with Central Coast Mariners.

Among the Wanderers' best last night was former Sydney FC youngster Joey Gibbs, whose only other A-League appearance was in the Sky Blues' grand final triumph in 2010.

Gibbs, who came into the side for the injured Dino Kresinger, and linked superbly with Japanse star Shinji Ono, who was excellent before coming off with 20 minutes left.

Roar Wanderers
0 FINAL SCORE 1
0 HALF TIME SCORE 1
10 SHOTS 16
4 SHOTS ON GOAL 8
7 FOULS 15
3 CORNERS 10
1 OFFSIDES 0
60 POSSESSION 40

Western Sydney Wanderers ---------------------------------------------------------------------->midgets...