Talking Footy

King-Eliagh wrote:

Triple shmiple Xman. You have clearly claimed you "know nothing about RL". Again you're showing it. Your mathematical tomfoolery doesnt make you look any better in this case as those who know both games are well aware teams can and often do put on 18points in RL in 10 to 15mins. 15 goals in marngrook on the other hand?? Most AFL teams cant put that many goals on the board in an entire game!

Oh Xman you really are in lala land mate! =D> =D>

So a team who didn't score in 70 minutes is still in contention to score 4 times with 10 minutes left?

Xman wrote:

So a team who didn't score in 70 minutes is still in contention to score 4 times with 10 minutes left?

Ok RL 101 for Xman. In RL you only have to score 3 times to get 18 points. It's 4 points for a try, i.e. when a player grasses the ball over the tryline. and two points for a conversion. i.e. a kick aimed to go between the posts which is taken from a chosen distance directly back from the line in which the try is scored.

Xman, you're all over it mate All over it! :D

King-Eliagh wrote:

Xman wrote:

So a team who didn't score in 70 minutes is still in contention to score 4 times with 10 minutes left?

Ok RL 101 for Xman. In RL you only have to score 3 times to get 18 points. It's 4 points for a try, i.e. when a player grasses the ball over the tryline. and two points for a conversion. i.e. a kick aimed to go between the posts which is taken from a chosen distance directly back from the line in which the try is scored.

Xman, you're all over it mate All over it! :D

Well I was under the impression that if you trail 18-0 you need to score 3 tries and convert at 100% to even the game up. To win you must score one more time.

Dumbarse!

Ahh it goes into extra time then Xman So your 10mins left is invalid. Once again, you are, quite simply, incorrect.

Can i teach you some more?

And lets not forget 15 goals = more than most AFL teams score in an entire match! Its not something teams can do in 10-15mins. It prob has never actually occurred in that timeframe

With this in mind only a complete fool would be trying to make the 15 goal + thrashings which occurred in the AFL last weekend comparable to some of the bigger wins in the NRL. Xman? You my friend are the complete fool.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Ahh it goes into extra time then Xman So your 10mins left is invalid. Once again, you are, quite simply, incorrect.

Can i teach you some more?

And lets not forget 15 goals = more than most AFL teams score in an entire match! Its not something teams can do in 10-15mins. It prob has never actually occurred in that timeframe

With this in mind only a complete fool would be trying to make the 15 goal + thrashings which occurred in the AFL last weekend comparable to some of the bigger wins in the NRL. Xman? You my friend are the complete fool.

So when a team loses 18-0 it's not a blow out because scoring 3 tries is possible? who cares whats possible.the fact is they didn't. In fact they didn't score anything in 80 minutes. They failed! They were beaten by a factor of infinity.

The fact of the matter is in RL terms 18 - 0 can be a close and entertaining match for 70mins or more. The result of a 15 goal + drubbing in the AFL comp is quite clear in the second or early in the third quarter, with things just getting worse and more obvious from then on.

You know I speak da truth Xman. Lemme know if there's anyway I can help you save face in this thread ok?

King-Eliagh wrote:

The fact of the matter is in RL terms 18 - 0 can be a close and entertaining match for 70mins or more. The result of a 15 goal + drubbing in the AFL comp is quite clear in the second or early in the third quarter, with things just getting worse and more obvious from then on.

You know I speak da truth Xman. Lemme know if there's anyway I can help you save face in this thread ok?

Not necessarily.

An 18-0 score at half time in the NRl must look pretty ominous.

An AFL team can be 5 goals down at half time and certainly still be in the game, but be out scored by 10 goals in the last half and lose by 15.

I'm happy to concede a lower scoring game can appear closer despite one team dominating on the scoreboard. But the entire issue relates to which games attendances and ratings are effected because of matches that are very one sided and less interesting to neutral supporters. So far the AFL are ahead on attendances and ratings compared to last year. The NRL are down on attendance and I'm not surer on ratings but I haven't heard they're ahead.

Attendances and ratings are not at all the entire issue Xman. The issue we are discussing is the quality of the comp. So far the AFL has really lost its way in terms of quality of competition. Luckily for you guys it seems the supporters are loyal. Good for you but the fact remains, the quality of the comp is loooooooww. So loooooow right now.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Attendances and ratings are not at all the entire issue Xman. The issue we are discussing is the quality of the comp. So far the AFL has really lost its way in terms of quality of competition. Luckily for you guys it seems the supporters are loyal. Good for you but the fact remains, the quality of the comp is loooooooww. So loooooow right now.

Lost its way?

The comp is expanding. It's done a similar thing a number of times and has always come out fine. 2 teams out of 18 is a minor issue. But as you rightly say, AFL supporters are loyal overall and are behind expansion.

I dont think the AFL has ever developed the competition into such a lop sided affair. Could you name another time in history when scorelines of 15 goals plus were a common part of each round? Tsk tsk tsk, dear oh deary me...lost its way indeed my testicle eyed Xman.

King-Eliagh wrote:

I dont think the AFL has ever developed the competition into such a lop sided affair. Could you name another time in history when scorelines of 15 goals plus were a common part of each round? Tsk tsk tsk, dear oh deary me...lost its way indeed my testicle eyed Xman.

If it was an issue that was likely to last more than a few years I'd be concerned. But the benefits of an expanding national competition far and away outway the negatives of a competition with two raw but developing teams.

So you're not concerned the competition is most likely at its most uneven point in the history of the sport? Not much of a supporter are you.

King-Eliagh wrote:

So you're not concerned the competition is most likely at its most uneven point in the history of the sport? Not much of a supporter are you.

Nope. It isn't. The top end is more even this year than for a number of years. Collingwood Carlton Geelong westcoast and hawthorn all appear to be genuine GF contenders. The fight for the 6-8th spots fill be very evenly fought between the dogs, bombers, Roos, tigers, dockers, crows, swans, and saints. The lower teams will develop in the coming years. This will be a very interesting year. Almost 1 million viewers yesterday shows the viewers are well and truly interested.

As I said the gap between the top tier and the lower teams is an absolute chasm. 3 to 5 games per week are non events, something which will not doubt be noticed and have serious efrfectsz. We've already seen massive drops in supporter numbers at the GC... Reality check Xman. Its time for you to face the fact and be honest.

King-Eliagh wrote:

As I said the gap between the top tier and the lower teams is an absolute chasm. 3 to 5 games per week are non events, something which will not doubt be noticed and have serious efrfectsz. We've already seen massive drops in supporter numbers at the GC... Reality check Xman. Its time for you to face the fact and be honest.

The gap between the top 5 and the bottom 2 is huge but will narrow with each year. The middle tier will beat teams in the top 5 this year there is no doubt.

It's not unusual for a new team to have a quiter second year. Wait til they start winning.