Is The AFL Racist?

[King-Eliagh]

Settle down princess.

Racism is very connected to the context in which is is taken out and I'm not putting 'Australian' as somehow racist you silly twit. But there is a history and there is a perception amongst many who have been at the wrong end of racism within this country, that Australia is a racist country. This is simply fact.

A name for a sport should not include the name of the nation in which it began, sport is beyond nation, it has no boundaries or policies which might disciminate but generally provides an equal playing field.

[TLPG]

That last paragraph is a crock of crap and you know it is.

Withdraw your accusation, or I formalise a complaint.

[Xman]

Oh I'm not denying this rubbish exists throughout Australia. Its just that it appears to be occurring most in the AFL comp, which is why they need to "do something about it". Not enough imo, cause it just keeps on bubbling up.

Racism is an issue for Australia, not just any particular sport. The AFL as an organization has been accused of racism on this site. All I am doing is showing a recent example where AFL policy, players, administration and fans took a firm stand against a racist act. They deserve applause not derision.

[Xman]

The Blues have reminded us that racism is still alive and well in Australia. It is probably just as alive in rugby league as it is in any area of competitive human endeavour, whether on a sports field, in a boardroom or a schoolroom.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/op ... 5880109623

[Xman]

Benji Marshall, one of the most high-profile players in rugby league, was charged with assault after an altercation in the early hours of March 5.

Earlier that evening, he hosted a charity function on March 4 for the Children’s Cancer Institute of Australia at which about $250,000 was raised.

Afterwards, the West Tigers player went out with his girlfriend for a few drinks, but was reported to not have been drunk. They later went to a Sydney McDonald’s store.

An altercation occurred, which began with a man insulting Marshall and ended with Marshall punching the same man in the lip.

The Australian said on March 7: “Marshall is understood to have stopped at a set of traffic lights to sign autographs for fans, separating him from his group of friends.

“He was set upon by a group of up to 10 men and reacted angrily after allegedly being called a ‘black merkin’.”

Marshall’s manager, Martin Tauber, told the media that Marshall was called a “black merkin” three times before he reacted. Tauber said: “One of them started to shout at him and said: ‘Go back to New Zealand you black c...’.”

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/46998

[Xman]

COUNTRY Rugby League CEO Terry Quinn believes racism is a serious issue in rugby league everywhere, not just in Group 10.
Orange Hawks claim their Polynesian contingent have been antagonised racially by a number of teams throughout the year and on Saturday against Orange CYMS, it was members of the crowd hurling racial taunts towards Tongan players.

Quinn said he was aware of the claims.

“My understanding is the blue on the weekend had nothing to do with racism on the field. But we certainly won’t tolerate racism in any form,” Quinn said.

“We know that Group 10 received letters from Hawks about racism and we’re investigating that at the moment. We take these claims very seriously.”

On top of Hawks’ claims, Group 11 player Joe Williams also lodged a formal complaint about racism earlier in the year.

He later withdrew that same complaint.

Quinn believes racism is an issue rugby league as a whole has to address.

“I’d be lying if I didn’t say there was an issue with racial slurs in the game, and that’s not just out your way, it’s in the game everywhere,” he said.

“We’re doing everything we can to stamp it out. We educate players and if we know about it we certainly act on it.”

Hawks players were allegedly racially attacked by Lithgow on both occasions they played this season, the club has claimed.

Both times the games ended in fights, while on the second occasion at Endeavour Oval the match was called of 10 minutes early.

http://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/n ... 47637.aspx

[King-Eliagh]

Yes of course there's racism evident in RL. But our ol pal Raiderdave clearly proved its more of a problem in the AFL comp. Much more in fact. Ol' Raiderdave, I wonder how that standup gentleman is nowadays. He often brought facts and reason to these boards, something which is missing amongst the AFL lot.

[Xman]

Yes of course there's racism evident in RL. But our ol pal Raiderdave clearly proved its more of a problem in the AFL comp. Much more in fact. Ol' Raiderdave, I wonder how that standup gentleman is nowadays. He often brought facts and reason to these boards, something which is missing amongst the AFL lot.

I'm sorry but that is just pure rubbish. Racism is a issue across society as a whole. It is not more prevalent in specific sports. It may be highlighted more due to changes in tolerance and policy, but it is a universal issue. To suggest otherwise is tin foil hat behaviour.

[King-Eliagh]

Yes a universal issue...but highlighed more in the AFL due to lower levels of tolerance.

[Xman]

Yes a universal issue...but highlighed more in the AFL due to lower levels of tolerance.

Highlited more because the AFL have taken a hard line stance on it more likely. If the collingwood player and some of the fans supporting the same team hadn't reported this clown it wouldn't have gone anywhere. It would have gone unnoticed and the behaviour continued.

Both code have had issues. As far as I've seen the AFL have been the one taking action.

[King-Eliagh]

As I argued before I'd have to say RL naturally likely to be a more tolerant code in regards to race, simply because the code represents such a multicultural mixing pot. It's been and made itself more accessible to recent migrants which I believe can only be a good thing.

The AFL comp looks like RL did back in 91, primarily anglosaxon. In this environment tolerance for others lowers. Thats just the truth, dont blame me for libel now

[Xman]

As I argued before I'd have to say RL naturally likely to be a more tolerant code in regards to race, simply because the code represents such a multicultural mixing pot. It's been and made itself more accessible to recent migrants which I believe can only be a good thing.

The AFL comp looks like RL did back in 91, primarily anglosaxon. In this environment tolerance for others lowers. Thats just the truth, dont blame me for libel now

Major flaw in your logic. Society's attitudes towards racism have moved on since the last century, and sport like AFL and RL have been a driving factor. So irrespective of which code incorporates players from a larger number of cultures, societys attitudes towards these different races should be similar.

[eelofwest]

KE, you will withdraw that Pauline Hanson inference immediately. That is libel against the AFL.

Eels, I umpired a Polynesian junior in 1996. I umpired a Vietnamise junior in 1989. So don't tell me the AFL are behind anything! And you have no right to limit your scope on racists to the western suburbs. That's why I added Cronulla in particular.

I consider footy to be the least racist sport in this country, because we take ACTION! I don't consider thugby to be most racist though - I reserve that label for soccer.

You do realize not one person believes what you have dribbled on about just now...

Wait soccer racist lol you are a looney clear as day, you belong with Coslettuce mate.

Proof is in the product that is AFL, look at all the team's makeup. Look at the AFL racists who don't want payer rooms at the MCG. Mate look at the rugby league sides, we have Brits The Burgess brothers, James Graham, Gareth Ellis, Gareth Widdop. PNG players, Nevile Costagen, Jorden Meeds. Fijian players, Lote Tuqiri, Petero Civoniceva, James Segeyaro, Aquila Uate. Aboriginal players to many to list Aborigonal all Stars Squad. Lebanese players, Hazem El Masri, Robbie Farah, Ray Moujalli, John Mannah, Tim Mannah. Kiwi Players to many to list .
Italian players Anthony Laffranchi, Mark Minichiello, Anthony Minichiello, Joel Romelo. Togan players Jacob Loko, Esikeli Tonga, Taniela Lasalo.

There is heaps more Nationality's represented in the NRL that i cbf going through.
So you are at least 20 years behind the NRL on this front.

[pookus]

KE, you will withdraw that Pauline Hanson inference immediately. That is libel against the AFL.

Eels, I umpired a Polynesian junior in 1996. I umpired a Vietnamise junior in 1989. So don't tell me the AFL are behind anything! And you have no right to limit your scope on racists to the western suburbs. That's why I added Cronulla in particular.

I consider footy to be the least racist sport in this country, because we take ACTION! I don't consider thugby to be most racist though - I reserve that label for soccer.

You do realize not one person believes what you have dribbled on about just now...

Wait soccer racist lol you are a looney clear as day, you belong with Coslettuce mate.

Proof is in the product that is AFL, look at all the team's makeup. Look at the AFL racists who don't want payer rooms at the MCG. Mate look at the rugby league sides, we have Brits The Burgess brothers, James Graham, Gareth Ellis, Gareth Widdop. PNG players, Nevile Costagen, Jorden Meeds. Fijian players, Lote Tuqiri, Petero Civoniceva, James Segeyaro, Aquila Uate. Aboriginal players to many to list Aborigonal all Stars Squad. Lebanese players, Hazem El Masri, Robbie Farah, Ray Moujalli, John Mannah, Tim Mannah. Kiwi Players to many to list .
Italian players Anthony Laffranchi, Mark Minichiello, Anthony Minichiello, Joel Romelo. Togan players Jacob Loko, Esikeli Tonga, Taniela Lasalo.

There is heaps more Nationality's represented in the NRL that i cbf going through.
So you are at least 20 years behind the NRL on this front.

You have to be kidding the AFL has the strongest racial villification laws in the land.And this coming from a code that had one of thier stars walk out of an origin camp because the assistant coach declared "We have to get these black c...s"And hes still in the job.If that happened in AFL young Joey would never have been heard from again.Nicky Winmars photo of him lifting his jumper and pointing at his skin is one of the most defining moments againt racists australia has seen .Thats why the jumper hangs behind Clarkes desk.

[Xman]

KE, you will withdraw that Pauline Hanson inference immediately. That is libel against the AFL.

Eels, I umpired a Polynesian junior in 1996. I umpired a Vietnamise junior in 1989. So don't tell me the AFL are behind anything! And you have no right to limit your scope on racists to the western suburbs. That's why I added Cronulla in particular.

I consider footy to be the least racist sport in this country, because we take ACTION! I don't consider thugby to be most racist though - I reserve that label for soccer.

You do realize not one person believes what you have dribbled on about just now...

Wait soccer racist lol you are a looney clear as day, you belong with Coslettuce mate.

Proof is in the product that is AFL, look at all the team's makeup. Look at the AFL racists who don't want payer rooms at the MCG. Mate look at the rugby league sides, we have Brits The Burgess brothers, James Graham, Gareth Ellis, Gareth Widdop. PNG players, Nevile Costagen, Jorden Meeds. Fijian players, Lote Tuqiri, Petero Civoniceva, James Segeyaro, Aquila Uate. Aboriginal players to many to list Aborigonal all Stars Squad. Lebanese players, Hazem El Masri, Robbie Farah, Ray Moujalli, John Mannah, Tim Mannah. Kiwi Players to many to list .
Italian players Anthony Laffranchi, Mark Minichiello, Anthony Minichiello, Joel Romelo. Togan players Jacob Loko, Esikeli Tonga, Taniela Lasalo.

There is heaps more Nationality's represented in the NRL that i cbf going through.
So you are at least 20 years behind the NRL on this front.

Seriously,

You are one of the dumbest fools to post on this forum!

RL is played in a number of countries, hence a number of people from different countries play the game in Australia! It has nothing to do with with whether or not those ethnic groups are accepted or discriminated against! Nothing at all.

Melbourne is a very multicultural city. It may not have as many Polynesians but it has many Sudanese, Indians, Asian, European and other pacific island groups who live here. Whether people from these racial groups play professional ARs is irrelevant. if they are accepted into society they are accepted overall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VFL/AFL_pl ... ackgrounds
This link shows the list of AFL players who have international heritage.

It's like saying the Australian cricket team, or the Olympic team is racist because the majority of people in the teams are Anglo Australians!

Seriously, your comments are just hilarious!