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http://forum.planet-rugby.com/index.php ... sg_7306510

Beaussie wrote:

cooee wrote:

The article states Broncos vs Reds.

Yes the article, quoting John O'Neill, not me.

Yeah, but as I said, you linking the article and using it for a claim means you agree with it unless otherwise stated in the original claim.

After reading the article it looks like the author did compare the reds to the broncos directly. However, in what context? Did he compare home and away games only? Did the reds play a home final? It would be unfair to include home finals for one team and not the other as they are not a decent direct comparison of regular support.

The Rebels weren't even in the competition in 2010.

Clearly a typo.

Xman wrote:

Beaussie wrote:

cooee wrote:

The article states Broncos vs Reds.

Yes the article, quoting John O'Neill, not me.

Yeah, but as I said, you linking the article and using it for a claim means you agree with it unless otherwise stated in the original claim.

After reading the article it looks like the author did compare the reds to the broncos directly. However, in what context? Did he compare home and away games only? Did the reds play a home final? It would be unfair to include home finals for one team and not the other as they are not a decent direct comparison of regular support.

It doesn't matter they got beaten with or without finals. They both played two finals last season.

See, even in the union thread they had it wrong until I pointed out the Manly home game at suncorp..

1 Cowboys 45,119 45,119
2 Panthers 25,263 35,191
3 Knights 24,522 31,635
4 Bulldogs 30,538 31,361
5 Storm 34,175 31,923
6 Sea Eagles 16,142 29,293
7 Raiders 21,378 28,162
8 Dragons 34,185 28,915
9 Titans 16,141 27,496
10 Sharks 24,164 27,163
11 Warriors 37,173 28,073
12 Rabbitohs 40,094 29,075
13 Sea Eagles 50,859 30,750
14 Warriors 48,943 32,050 F
15 Dragons 48,474 33,145 F

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Super_Rugby_season

All the Reds crowds are in there.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Hey, when I called BS file, I made sure I said the Broncos, I couldn't give a stuff about the other 2

Ah, hang on. That is YOUR context, not Beaussies. You made the challenge without mentioning the Broncos. Therefore the RU average just needs to be higher than the NRl average crowd in QLD. Beaussie never made a claim about the Broncos specifically.

Read the thread dumbarse where I called BS file and see that every post of mine about this was ages before you made this thread.

Go on, I bet I even mention the Broncos in there specifically

Stop trying to weasel your mates out of every bloody BS file, it's pathetic.

Cut the crap moron! I am checking heaps of threads and don't have time to check every post. You made the original challenge without mentioning the broncos! These are the terms you are challenging on! If you wanted to only challenge on the the broncos you should have given Beaussie the opportunity to agree to these terms or not. You can't change the terms AFTER you challenge. Beaussie may not have agreed to these terms so he may have recanted his statement if it involved the broncos only.

Having said that the article does mention a direct comparison between the reds and broncos, so these are the terms of the challenge.

I just don't like being told I'm cheating when I am not!

cooee wrote:

Xman wrote:

Beaussie wrote:

Yes the article, quoting John O'Neill, not me.

Yeah, but as I said, you linking the article and using it for a claim means you agree with it unless otherwise stated in the original claim.

After reading the article it looks like the author did compare the reds to the broncos directly. However, in what context? Did he compare home and away games only? Did the reds play a home final? It would be unfair to include home finals for one team and not the other as they are not a decent direct comparison of regular support.

It doesn't matter they got beaten with or without finals. They both played two finals last season.

Fair enough. Just making sure the comparison is fair.

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Xman wrote:

Ah, hang on. That is YOUR context, not Beaussies. You made the challenge without mentioning the Broncos. Therefore the RU average just needs to be higher than the NRl average crowd in QLD. Beaussie never made a claim about the Broncos specifically.

Read the thread dumbarse where I called BS file and see that every post of mine about this was ages before you made this thread.

Go on, I bet I even mention the Broncos in there specifically

Stop trying to weasel your mates out of every bloody BS file, it's pathetic.

Cut the crap moron! I am checking heaps of threads and don't have time to check every post. You made the original challenge without mentioning the broncos! These are the terms you are challenging on! If you wanted to only challenge on the the broncos you should have given Beaussie the opportunity to agree to these terms or not. You can't change the terms AFTER you challenge. Beaussie may not have agreed to these terms so he may have recanted his statement if it involved the broncos only.

Having said that the article does mention a direct comparison between the reds and broncos, so these are the terms of the challenge.

I just don't like being told I'm cheating when I am not!

Under 2 mins later c0ckhead.

So get phucked and play the game right or don't play at all and stop protecting your mates.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

And remember, the Reds had a home semi and the GF in their averages.

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/seas/2011.html#1

Broncos home crowds 2011

1.Cowboys 45,119
2.Penrith 25,263
3.Newcastle 24,522
4.Canterbury 30,538
5.Melbourne 34,175
6.Canberra 21,378
7.St George 34,185
8. Titans 31,035
9.Cronulla 24,164
10.Warriors 37,173
11.Souths 40,094
12.Manly 50,859


Qualifying final

Warriors 48,943

Semi final

St George Illawarra 48,474

Broncos season average without finals = 33,209

With 2 finals added like the S15 Reds the Broncos would average 35,423.

What was the reds average?

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Read the thread dumbarse where I called BS file and see that every post of mine about this was ages before you made this thread.

Go on, I bet I even mention the Broncos in there specifically

Stop trying to weasel your mates out of every bloody BS file, it's pathetic.

Cut the crap moron! I am checking heaps of threads and don't have time to check every post. You made the original challenge without mentioning the broncos! These are the terms you are challenging on! If you wanted to only challenge on the the broncos you should have given Beaussie the opportunity to agree to these terms or not. You can't change the terms AFTER you challenge. Beaussie may not have agreed to these terms so he may have recanted his statement if it involved the broncos only.

Having said that the article does mention a direct comparison between the reds and broncos, so these are the terms of the challenge.

I just don't like being told I'm cheating when I am not!

Under 2 mins later c0ckhead.

So get phucked and play the game right or don't play at all and stop protecting your mates.

Watch it arse hole!

And when you then specifically mentioned the broncos did Beaussie then agree to that new challenge?

I'll give you an example of the stupidity of your comments:

If you said the Storm averaged 15k for home games in 2011 and I challenged that would be a fair challenge. If I, the challenger, then qualified the challenge as only including the games over the SOO period, when their home games rated far less, that would be totally unfair! If I qualified that with you and said "do you mean in the rounds during SOO?" you would have the opportunity to agree to these new terms or not.

That is fair! You cannot add terms to a challenge after the challenge has been made! If you do it's a new challenge and the claimant must have the opportunity to agree to it or not!

Got it?

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

And remember, the Reds had a home semi and the GF in their averages.

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/seas/2011.html#1

Broncos home crowds 2011

1.Cowboys 45,119
2.Penrith 25,263
3.Newcastle 24,522
4.Canterbury 30,538
5.Melbourne 34,175
6.Canberra 21,378
7.St George 34,185
8. Titans 31,035
9.Cronulla 24,164
10.Warriors 37,173
11.Souths 40,094
12.Manly 50,859


Qualifying final

Warriors 48,943

Semi final

St George Illawarra 48,474

Broncos season average without finals = 33,209

With 2 finals added like the S15 Reds the Broncos would average 35,423.

What was the reds average?

I'll add it up now from the only source you can get s15 from, wiki.

But they do add up, I done it before and the numbers were right.

Xman wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Xman wrote:

Cut the crap moron! I am checking heaps of threads and don't have time to check every post. You made the original challenge without mentioning the broncos! These are the terms you are challenging on! If you wanted to only challenge on the the broncos you should have given Beaussie the opportunity to agree to these terms or not. You can't change the terms AFTER you challenge. Beaussie may not have agreed to these terms so he may have recanted his statement if it involved the broncos only.

Having said that the article does mention a direct comparison between the reds and broncos, so these are the terms of the challenge.

I just don't like being told I'm cheating when I am not!

Under 2 mins later c0ckhead.

So get phucked and play the game right or don't play at all and stop protecting your mates.

Watch it arse hole!

And when you then specifically mentioned the broncos did Beaussie then agree to that new challenge?

:>::

He agreed to it when he created the thread. The Reds vs Broncos was clearly evident in his quote from the article.

He left himself open to a BS claim.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Super_Rugby_season

All the Reds crowds are in there.

OI! I thought you said Wikipedia was unreliable!!

PWNED!!!!!