Which sporting club has the most bogan fans?

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:01 pm

You are in the minority, Raider. Stop dodging the fact and get back on topic.

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:01 pm

TLPG wrote:
You are in the minority, Raider. Stop dodging the fact and get back on topic.

Im the voice try n understand it

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:16 pm

You're the what???

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:32 pm

Now let me get this straight. What we have thus far is some very disturbing footage of a bunch of Collingwood bogans really acting disgracefully.

Instead of accepting this as unacceptable, TLPG and AFFP have cited the Canterbury Bulldogs fans as an example which equal this or, is actually worse. While I accept that Canterbury fans have acted terribly (note the word accept TLPG and AFFP) I take offence to this response because, as I and Raider have cited, the Canterbury Club and the NRL have taken action against this and I nor Raider, nor anyone else in this thread has any evidence of similar atrocities occurring since.

From my experience at AFL matches and chatting with those who are very experienced such as Beaussie, I am led to believe there is a very violent culture in AFL sports fans, especially within their supposed "cheer squads". Beaussie has been physically attacked on several ocassions, once for simply flying his flag with pride near an opposing "Cheer Squad's" seating section.

I for one think the AFL needs to sort this culture of violence out as it's not nearly as present in the NRL and reminds me of soccer crowds. Many AFL fans are passionate, yes, but many are highly indecent and uncivilised!

Perhaps here at Talking Footy we could make a change and begin a petition asking the AFL to stamp out these very behaviours?

Who's in?

Post by **Beaussie** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:40 pm

The Chasers made the following for a reason. NRL fans carry knives, knucle dusters etc etc. Clearly out of control.

Post by **Beaussie** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:42 pm

Oh and talk about bogan behaviour. Throwing bottles etc seems the norm in NZ at Rugby League games.

Post by **Beaussie** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:45 pm

NRL Bulldogs supporters after a loss

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:08 pm

King-Eliagh wrote:
Instead of accepting this as unacceptable, TLPG and AFFP have cited the Canterbury Bulldogs fans as an example which equal this or, is actually worse. While I accept that Canterbury fans have acted terribly (note the word accept TLPG and AFFP) I take offence to this response because, as I and Raider have cited, the Canterbury Club and the NRL have taken action against this and I nor Raider, nor anyone else in this thread has any evidence of similar atrocities occurring since.

All fans who behave the way the Collingwood fans did are ejected from the venue instantly.

Post by **Beaussie** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:24 am

Doesn't look like the Kiwi Rugby League fans were ejected based on the video above. You could be forgiven for thinking that sort of behaviour is acceptable at Rugby League games I guess. Terrible image for families and potential new fans of the game that's for sure.

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:51 am

Beaussie wrote:
Oh and talk about bogan behaviour. Throwing bottles etc seems the norm in NZ at Rugby League games.

gee

wouldn't the AFL like a crowd that size outside of Australia...
hell
outside of Melbourne

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:58 am

Beaussie wrote:
The Chasers made the following for a reason. NRL fans carry knives, knucle dusters etc etc. Clearly out of control.

a satirical skit .. based on the Bulldogs .. PAST

they are a very well behaved club have been your half a decade
you get almost no .. bad beahviour at NRL games these days .. your wifes .. girfriends or daughters can go to one of our games without fear of being mugged by male supporters
something the AFL can't claim.. just yet

Post by **Beaussie** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:32 am

Raiderdave wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
Oh and talk about bogan behaviour. Throwing bottles etc seems the norm in NZ at Rugby League games.

gee

wouldn't the AFL like a crowd that size outside of Australia...
hell
outside of Melbourne

Again avodiing the issue in question. Bad behaviour at Rugby League games appears to be acceptable judging by the videos in this thread. Why wont the NRL act? Any wonder why families don't attend NRL games in big numbers?

Raiderdave · Post by **Raiderdave** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:47 am

Beaussie wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Beaussie wrote:
Oh and talk about bogan behaviour. Throwing bottles etc seems the norm in NZ at Rugby League games.

gee

wouldn't the AFL like a crowd that size outside of Australia...
hell
outside of Melbourne
Again avodiing the issue in question. Bad behaviour at Rugby League games appears to be acceptable judging by the videos in this thread. Why wont the NRL act? Any wonder why families don't attend NRL games in big numbers?

well we know the footage is authentic & isn't from an AFL game
as I didn't see any females getting bashed up by males

nice sport you follow there

Post by **Beaussie** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:56 am

Raiderdave wrote:
well we know the footage is authentic & isn't from an AFL game
as I didn't see any females getting bashed up by males

nice sport you follow there

Hmm, Rugby League can no doubt take the moral high ground when one takes the following into account.

Rugby league, with its macho advertising and scantily dressed cheerleaders, has long cultivated an image of masculine bravado. But a picture is also surfacing of a murkier code in which players share women for sex as part of the team "bonding" process.

There are stories of prostitutes being hired for group sex, and "bonus" points being given if women are shared among mates. The practice is known as "roasting", a reference to meat being stuffed.

"The sharing of women is a bit pervasive and has developed over time," says sports psychologist Jeff Bond. "The culture that surrounds some clubs is wrong, it provides a platform for sex and violence. Clubs protect players. It is treated as 'boys being boys' and there is a cone of protection and silence.

The head of psychology at the University of Canberra, Professor Bob Montgomery, said the promotion of masculine values such as toughness, aggression and competitiveness in the league had a direct correlation in promoting "side-effects" such as risky behaviour, an inability to deal with emotions, less intimate relationships and a belief that male-female relationships were adversarial.

"The risk is, without anybody intending it, that the organisation promotes a culture associated with the attitude that women are something to be used," he said.

One player said it was a typical night for some of the Canterbury players.

"Some of the boys love a 'bun'," said one. "Gang banging is nothing new for our club or the rugby league."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/ ... 17509.html

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:08 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh you owned them good with that one, Beau!!