Talking Footy

They have a long history of outright lies(not mistakes).
Just like this.



The AFL's boast of vast increases in participation numbers in western Sydney is misleading, according to a report commissioned by one of its key stakeholders.

This month's report, prepared by a Melbourne University academic at the request of AFL NSW/ACT, supports what many rugby league administrators have been saying for some time - the AFL is using registrations in its modified game of Auskick to bolster actual playing numbers.

The research appears to seriously question a claim last month by an AFL NSW senior official that participation numbers in the western Sydney region have grown by 27 per cent, or 10,000 players, in a single year.

Under the heading, ''Western Sydney - The Reality versus Perception Gap'', the report's author, David Lawson, notes: ''The reality is that junior club maturity and participation numbers appear to have stalled. There are 6 [per cent] less junior/youth players in 2012 than in 2009. The perception, however, is that the game is growing well. This perception is supported by masking low junior club numbers with Auskick numbers (Club, School and Community Auskick) and school program numbers. This optimistic, bullish perception is needed to market the game, however this perception urgently needs to be underpinned by committed junior club participants.''

The report is at odds with a media report on September 14, quoting AFL NSW's Dean Connors, that Australian football participation in western Sydney rose 27 per cent this year, with administrators confident the full impact of the region's new AFL club, GWS Giants, is yet to be felt.

''We've grown at this stage by 27per cent from last year's participation, which was 28,306,'' Connors is quoted as saying. ''There's been substantial growth from a very high base, so we're up around that 36,000-37,000 mark in participation in greater western Sydney.''

Both AFL surveys and Connors define a ''participant'' as a ''no-less-than-six-weeks paying customer'', but according to the AFL NSW/ACT report, playing numbers in junior Australian football across all of Sydney last year was 7694.

When AFL NSW applied to Leichhardt Council to install AFL goal posts on rugby league's birthplace, Birchgrove Oval, it withdrew when asked to verify its playing numbers.

Nor is there any reason to boast about Sydney's senior numbers.

The report says: ''With the growth of senior numbers halving (from 8 [per cent] to 4 per cent]), under-18s growth dropping from 12 [per cent] to 4 [per cent] and significantly more 100-point victories in 2012 in U18 division 1


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/s ... z37gk5eZiB

Funny thing is the bloke who spilt the beans & showed what a farce these numbers are,is now employed by the AFL.So he will be towing the Company propaganda line.
There has Surprisingly not been another report commissioned. .
yet the same growth crap is sprouted & the Fumbletards on here go into a circle jerk(Hi Rambo).
I wonder why they ignore the real numbers when the crap is exposed.

Ha what a joke.

Yep 2 years old report - hahaha nothing recent???? 28k registered players in 2013 and how many RL players again in Victoria - 10k, 5k, 4k - what only 3k a tenth of the number in NSW!!!!! And your poking fun at AF???? Hahaha psychocrapper you get dumber by the second!

How many Aussie rules grounds in say towoomba ?? Compare that to say gippsland in Victoria

Tell me Sarge ,why havnt they done another report?.
Could it be the fact that they don't want their lies & bullshit shown up once again.
This mob have been caught out again & again & again ,outright lying about playing numbers.

Maybe that's why you defend these imaginary numbers.
You have a very active imagination..Hey SOLDIER BOY.

Tell me psychocrapper why hasn't the NRL done a report that in over 100 years if RL in Australia they only have 3000
Registered players in Victoria (that's including juniors!) or why it has less than 10,000 Australia wide excluding NSW/QLD!!! You keep coming back to the same argument you used last year - why does the AFL need to produce a report, after all it's not done so trolls like you have something to read - these reports are done so the organisation itself can self assess - RL does no reports because their afraid of what they will find - My son registered to play RL with the ONLY club in Melb's East - well he hasn't played 1 game because they couldn't get just 20 boys in an area that boasts 36 AF clubs countless soccer clubs, a gridiron club and RU clubs - not even 20 boys in his age group - so tell me this is he counted in the RL 3000 after all he got a ARL card that allows him free entry into ANY RL game - I'd worry about your own codes unreported practices before you keep slinging rocks at another codes participation figures in just NSW - a figure that DWARFS RL in the rest of Australia outside NSW/QLD!!!!!

Look stupid ( & that is being Kind.).
One code in this country loves the attention.Loves the headlines.Will say anything to get a headline.

Just because other codes don't beat their chest saying LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME does not mean they should.

& that one code has been caught out continually lying.Now why would that be.
Why do they have to continually lie to give the impression it is far more popular than it really is..

You are trying to make out RL does the same..
We don't.
We know where we are in other states .We don't have to lie ,we leave that for you mob.

& why do you keep straying off the thread subject.
This is about AFL participation rates(or the lie) yet you keep ignoring that & mentioning RL.

Why don't you take a look at the lies your own code sprouts instead of deflecting.

How has the AFL lied??? They have said there are 28k registered players in NSW how is that a lie???

Senate Committee.

Birchgrove oval.

Partic ipation numbers(LIES).as I posted above.

Those are just in Syd,
Then there is the NZ lie.

Why should anyone believe any numbers released by this lying mob.

They have plenty of form in straight out lying.

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Senate Committee.

Birchgrove oval.

Partic ipation numbers(LIES).as I posted above.

Those are just in Syd,
Then there is the NZ lie.

Why should anyone believe any numbers released by this lying mob.

They have plenty of form in straight out lying.

Positive spin and lies are two different things. The AFL likes to talk about its participation numbers which include auskick numbers in NSW and they do. I agree its a lot of spin and their registered player numbers although increasing overall in Sydney aren't fantastic, however they have never lied about their participation numbers, which is mostly what they talk about.
The fact you like to talk about Birchgrove oval says that you will believe any negative lies posted against the AFL. With the Birchgrove oval incident, the NSWAFL made a mistake (they reported their number of participants for two suburbs rather then one) and they said as much quickly when they found out, however its people like you who want yo talk about it and pretend like the AFL intentionally lied to get access to a ground they never really wanted to play on (although the did before RL ever did ).
The AFL never lied about NZ either, again they talk a lot of spin about large numbers in Kiwikick, but they don't lie. You need to understand the AFL don't lie when it comes to numbers, they make the occasional mistakes and they certainly spin and try to talk about Auskick a lot which annoys the crap out of me and plenty of other people who love the game but they don't lie. Why would they need to?

piesman2011 wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Senate Committee.

Birchgrove oval.

Partic ipation numbers(LIES).as I posted above.

Those are just in Syd,
Then there is the NZ lie.

Why should anyone believe any numbers released by this lying mob.

They have plenty of form in straight out lying.

Positive spin and lies are two different things. The AFL likes to talk about its participation numbers which include auskick numbers in NSW and they do. I agree its a lot of spin and their registered player numbers although increasing overall in Sydney aren't fantastic, however they have never lied about their participation numbers, which is mostly what they talk about.
The fact you like to talk about Birchgrove oval says that you will believe any negative lies posted against the AFL. With the Birchgrove oval incident, the NSWAFL made a mistake (they reported their number of participants for two suburbs rather then one) and they said as much quickly when they found out, however its people like you who want yo talk about it and pretend like the AFL intentionally lied to get access to a ground they never really wanted to play on (although the did before RL ever did ).
The AFL never lied about NZ either, again they talk a lot of spin about large numbers in Kiwikick, but they don't lie. You need to understand the AFL don't lie when it comes to numbers, they make the occasional mistakes and they certainly spin and try to talk about Auskick a lot which annoys the crap out of me and plenty of other people who love the game but they don't lie. Why would they need to?

They claimed 30K REGISTERED players in NZ.

A bit like how many Victorians had a rl experience lol. All spin

AFLcrap1 wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Senate Committee.

Birchgrove oval.

Partic ipation numbers(LIES).as I posted above.

Those are just in Syd,
Then there is the NZ lie.

Why should anyone believe any numbers released by this lying mob.

They have plenty of form in straight out lying.

Positive spin and lies are two different things. The AFL likes to talk about its participation numbers which include auskick numbers in NSW and they do. I agree its a lot of spin and their registered player numbers although increasing overall in Sydney aren't fantastic, however they have never lied about their participation numbers, which is mostly what they talk about.
The fact you like to talk about Birchgrove oval says that you will believe any negative lies posted against the AFL. With the Birchgrove oval incident, the NSWAFL made a mistake (they reported their number of participants for two suburbs rather then one) and they said as much quickly when they found out, however its people like you who want yo talk about it and pretend like the AFL intentionally lied to get access to a ground they never really wanted to play on (although the did before RL ever did ).
The AFL never lied about NZ either, again they talk a lot of spin about large numbers in Kiwikick, but they don't lie. You need to understand the AFL don't lie when it comes to numbers, they make the occasional mistakes and they certainly spin and try to talk about Auskick a lot which annoys the crap out of me and plenty of other people who love the game but they don't lie. Why would they need to?

They claimed 30K REGISTERED players in NZ.

Do you have a link? I seam to remember the article but I can't remember if it was a newspaper or the AFL that reported it, either way it was a mistake and the wrong word was used. They should have used the term participant rather than registered player.

The_Wookie wrote:

its a clear mistake, .

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geez
the VFL make a few of them don't they ?

Gill said it when interviewed about the 1st game in NZ.
Not one reporter corrected it.

& Piesman tell me this .
For a professional sport that (despite its troubles ATM) was the best run,most professional etc(& no arguments from here about that0 they seemed to make mistake after mistake about Playing numbers.
Was it a mistake ,fuck no.

They tell a lie ,then come out later & say ,oooops we meant this or that.
But they know that the lie is what sticks & it is repeated by fans or media till those in the bubble are convinced it is fact.

Mistake once, yes.
mistake twice ,maybe.
Mistake 3 times, no way..
& surprise surprise they make the mistake about the same thing ,over & over.

AFL is very protective of their image.
& they don't mind making mistakes quite a lot to bolster the popularity image.