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Raiderdave wrote:
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8-[

:lol: :lol: :lol:

the Wions couldn't smash the roar ATM let alone the wealthiest football franchise in Australia
( Broncos have ova 14 million in cash in the bank ... more the Collinsdog )

the wions are
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& all but..... goooooonnnnneeeeeeeeee

the thuns are useless ... just plain hopeless ..... & the Titans took care of them .. in just one year :wink:

Victorian rules in SE Qld ..... dark days ahead
dark days indeed :cool:

Hawthorn have a rumoured 20 million in the bank..... more then the broncos.
ah .... no
try 2.8 Million in cash .. a lot less then the Broncos who have more then any individual club in Australian sport.
Collinscat have the most for a VFL club at 10 million.... although I think I read somewhere the west coke sparrows are around this mark aswell. :wink:

http://www.AFL.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

3:15 PM Wed 14 Nov, 2012

Hawthorn's Lance Franklin trains in front of thousands of fans before the Grand Final


HAWTHORN has further cemented itself as an AFL power club by posting a profit of more than $1 million, although its gaming venture in Caroline Springs continues to experience growing pains.

Boosted by record membership and increases in corporate and sponsorship revenue, the Hawks made $1.29 million in 2012.

It was the club's 16th consecutive profit.

That was despite the Hawthorn-owned West Waters entertainment complex posting a loss of around $840,000.

The complex also lost approximately $1million last year, its first year of operation, after opening late due to construction delays.

In a statement, Hawthorn said West Waters was still in an "establishment phase".

It is projected to return a healthy profit in 2013.

"The club is pleased there has been some significant improvement in the venue's financial performance over recent months and believes the business is very well positioned to deliver on its strong financial forecasts," the statement said.

President Andrew Newbold said the Hawks' huge 'net operating profit' of just over $2 million (the tally without including non-football-related assets such as West Waters) was a credit to the club's management and staff.

He also thanked members for their contribution.

Hawthorn had 60,841 members in 2012 (including a record 8,731 in Tasmania), an increase of 7.4 per cent on 2011.

"The challenge now is to keep improving and growing in the area of membership, and so I encourage all members to renew their support and help the club secure 65,000 members in 2013," Newbold said.

"Although we didn’t achieve the ultimate success we were striving for in 2012, we have accomplished a very satisfying financial result and will continue to work hard to go one better in all facets of the business in 2013."

Hawthorn will release a new strategic plan late this year, after September's Grand Final loss meant the club fell just short of achieving the two key planks of its 'five2fifty' (five years, two premierships, 50,000 members) plan, which ran from 2008-2012.

The club has over $23 million in assets, and the Hawthorn Football Club Foundation has built a bank of more than $2.8 million.
The Hawks are the first AFL club to release financial results this year.
Seven clubs posted operating losses in 2011, and a similar outcome can be expected as 2012 results are made public in the lead-up to Christmas.

Good link. Can you show me the link to the Broncos 14 million dollars in the bank now please?
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Pies here is the link to 2011 anual report go to page 35 were you will see the broncos have 13.7million in the kitty from 2011.

http://www.broncos.com.au/site/_content ... source.pdf

Now this next link is the 2012 half year report, on page 2 you will see they made a profit of over 2million already in half a year.

http://www.broncos.com.au/site/_content ... source.pdf

Broncos are simply a juggernaut.
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eelofwest wrote:
Pies here is the link to 2011 anual report go to page 35 were you will see the broncos have 13.7million in the kitty from 2011.

http://www.broncos.com.au/site/_content ... source.pdf

Now this next link is the 2012 half year report, on page 2 you will see they made a profit of over 2million already in half a year.

http://www.broncos.com.au/site/_content ... source.pdf

Broncos are simply a juggernaut.
Its on page 34. Cash and cash equiliants 13.7 million. Very solid assets at a bit over 30 million.
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Essendon has released its 2012 financial report with total assets of 42 million and 12 million in cash and cash equivalents. About 20 percent bigger then the Broncos with total assets of 32.5 million which was their 2011 report.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/club/EFC_a ... t_2012.pdf page 10.
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piesman2011 wrote:
Essendon has released its 2012 financial report with total assets of 42 million and 12 million in cash and cash equivalents. About 20 percent bigger then the Broncos with total assets of 32.5 million which was their 2011 report.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/club/EFC_a ... t_2012.pdf page 10.
So what your telling me Pies is that the Bombers are a bigger club then the Pies................. :-k

Who would have thought that memberships did not equate to being number 1 sporting club in the nation.... :lol: :lol:

You have just proven that the Pies are not number 1, well done..... :lol: :lol:

Poor Pies gets shot down and proceeds to move the gold posts... =D>

You and QAFL just made yourselves look like fools.......Lions bigger then the Broncos.... :lol: :lol: .......Hawthorn have a rumoured 20 million in the bank..... more then the broncos......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go on Pies when you have lost debate move the posts i want look...... :lol:

BTW the Broncos have been around since 1988 to emass there assets and cash savings.

How long have the bombers been around Pies?................. =D>
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eelofwest wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:

Hawthorn have a rumoured 20 million in the bank..... more then the broncos.
ah .... no
try 2.8 Million in cash .. a lot less then the Broncos who have more then any individual club in Australian sport.
Collinscat have the most for a VFL club at 10 million.... although I think I read somewhere the west coke sparrows are around this mark aswell. :wink:

http://www.AFL.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

3:15 PM Wed 14 Nov, 2012

Hawthorn's Lance Franklin trains in front of thousands of fans before the Grand Final


HAWTHORN has further cemented itself as an AFL power club by posting a profit of more than $1 million, although its gaming venture in Caroline Springs continues to experience growing pains.

Boosted by record membership and increases in corporate and sponsorship revenue, the Hawks made $1.29 million in 2012.

It was the club's 16th consecutive profit.

That was despite the Hawthorn-owned West Waters entertainment complex posting a loss of around $840,000.

The complex also lost approximately $1million last year, its first year of operation, after opening late due to construction delays.

In a statement, Hawthorn said West Waters was still in an "establishment phase".

It is projected to return a healthy profit in 2013.

"The club is pleased there has been some significant improvement in the venue's financial performance over recent months and believes the business is very well positioned to deliver on its strong financial forecasts," the statement said.

President Andrew Newbold said the Hawks' huge 'net operating profit' of just over $2 million (the tally without including non-football-related assets such as West Waters) was a credit to the club's management and staff.

He also thanked members for their contribution.

Hawthorn had 60,841 members in 2012 (including a record 8,731 in Tasmania), an increase of 7.4 per cent on 2011.

"The challenge now is to keep improving and growing in the area of membership, and so I encourage all members to renew their support and help the club secure 65,000 members in 2013," Newbold said.

"Although we didn’t achieve the ultimate success we were striving for in 2012, we have accomplished a very satisfying financial result and will continue to work hard to go one better in all facets of the business in 2013."

Hawthorn will release a new strategic plan late this year, after September's Grand Final loss meant the club fell just short of achieving the two key planks of its 'five2fifty' (five years, two premierships, 50,000 members) plan, which ran from 2008-2012.

The club has over $23 million in assets, and the Hawthorn Football Club Foundation has built a bank of more than $2.8 million.
The Hawks are the first AFL club to release financial results this year.
Seven clubs posted operating losses in 2011, and a similar outcome can be expected as 2012 results are made public in the lead-up to Christmas.
Why cant they not stop with the Lies Dave....... :roll: :roll: I do expect better from you Pies... [-X You lost me at Rumored btw.... :lol: :lol:




Here is some operating losses for 2012.

Brisbane Lions had a operating loss of more then 2 million in 2012...................Q the lions are a rabble compared to the Broncos.... =D>

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/AFL/more-ne ... 6516442343

2012 AFL CLUB FINANCIAL RESULTS

Richmond: $3,017,742 profit

Hawthorn: $2,023,720 profit

North Melbourne: $1,193,080 operating profit

Brisbane Lions: $2,513,262 net operating loss :lol: :lol:

Carlton: $683,799 operating loss

Essendon: $401,429 trading profit

Western Bulldogs: $136,679 operating loss

Port Adelaide: $2,11,071 operating loss really 4 million without the top up from the AFL.... :lol:

Don't compare the Lions to the Broncos q..... :lol: :lol:
Got any of this years NRL results smartarse? :-k
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eelofwest wrote:
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Essendon has released its 2012 financial report with total assets of 42 million and 12 million in cash and cash equivalents. About 20 percent bigger then the Broncos with total assets of 32.5 million which was their 2011 report.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/club/EFC_a ... t_2012.pdf page 10.
So what your telling me Pies is that the Bombers are a bigger club then the Pies................. :-k

Who would have thought that memberships did not equate to being number 1 sporting club in the nation.... :lol: :lol:

You have just proven that the Pies are not number 1, well done..... :lol: :lol:

Poor Pies gets shot down and proceeds to move the gold posts... =D>

You and QAFL just made yourselves look like fools.......Lions bigger then the Broncos.... :lol: :lol: .......Hawthorn have a rumoured 20 million in the bank..... more then the broncos......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go on Pies when you have lost debate move the posts i want look...... :lol:

Whats wrong did I show that the broncos dont have the most money and assets for a sporting club in the country? Does it really matter? THe Broncos and the Pies have yet to put out their 2012 financial reports so they may have more assets and or cash in the bank.
I would be the first to admit that I am not a business man and all I did was repeat a rumour from a Roar article that Hawthorn had 20 million dollars in the bank (hence the word rumour because I wasnt sure). Sorry if I was wrong but Dave was also wrong and the Hawks have 6.5 million in cash according to this report. That makes him a fool as well according to you. =D> =D>

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/portals/0/ ... 12_Web.pdf see page 14
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eelofwest wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Essendon has released its 2012 financial report with total assets of 42 million and 12 million in cash and cash equivalents. About 20 percent bigger then the Broncos with total assets of 32.5 million which was their 2011 report.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/club/EFC_a ... t_2012.pdf page 10.
So what your telling me Pies is that the Bombers are a bigger club then the Pies................. :-k

Who would have thought that memberships did not equate to being number 1 sporting club in the nation.... :lol: :lol:

You have just proven that the Pies are not number 1, well done..... :lol: :lol:

Poor Pies gets shot down and proceeds to move the gold posts... =D>

You and QAFL just made yourselves look like fools.......Lions bigger then the Broncos.... :lol: :lol: .......Hawthorn have a rumoured 20 million in the bank..... more then the broncos......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go on Pies when you have lost debate move the posts i want look...... :lol:

BTW the Broncos have been around since 1988 to emass there assets and cash savings.

How long have the bombers been around Pies?................. =D>
Collingwood have a yearly football budget of over 50M, far more than ANY Australian sporting club......... :roll:
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piesman2011 wrote:
Essendon has released its 2012 financial report with total assets of 42 million and 12 million in cash and cash equivalents. About 20 percent bigger then the Broncos with total assets of 32.5 million which was their 2011 report.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/club/EFC_a ... t_2012.pdf page 10.

As a result of funds received to date for the development of the new High Performance Centre at Melbourne Airport of $11.9 million, the club reports an overall operating profit of $12.3 million. The trading cash surplus from normal operations exceeded $2.5 million.

WoW! the bombers made a handy profit while establishing a state of the art multi-million dollar home near the airport!

Go Bombers!!!! :\: :\:
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Xman wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Essendon has released its 2012 financial report with total assets of 42 million and 12 million in cash and cash equivalents. About 20 percent bigger then the Broncos with total assets of 32.5 million which was their 2011 report.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/club/EFC_a ... t_2012.pdf page 10.
So what your telling me Pies is that the Bombers are a bigger club then the Pies................. :-k

Who would have thought that memberships did not equate to being number 1 sporting club in the nation.... :lol: :lol:

You have just proven that the Pies are not number 1, well done..... :lol: :lol:

Poor Pies gets shot down and proceeds to move the gold posts... =D>

You and QAFL just made yourselves look like fools.......Lions bigger then the Broncos.... :lol: :lol: .......Hawthorn have a rumoured 20 million in the bank..... more then the broncos......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go on Pies when you have lost debate move the posts i want look...... :lol:

BTW the Broncos have been around since 1988 to emass there assets and cash savings.

How long have the bombers been around Pies?................. =D>
Collingwood have a yearly football budget of over 50M, far more than ANY Australian sporting club......... :roll:
yet post smaller profits overall .. then just the broncos football dept ( we haven't even added the broncos gaming arms profits )
& have less cash in the bank then the broncos as well
again
revenue .. matters not
its profits .. end of :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
So what your telling me Pies is that the Bombers are a bigger club then the Pies................. :-k

Who would have thought that memberships did not equate to being number 1 sporting club in the nation.... :lol: :lol:

You have just proven that the Pies are not number 1, well done..... :lol: :lol:

Poor Pies gets shot down and proceeds to move the gold posts... =D>

You and QAFL just made yourselves look like fools.......Lions bigger then the Broncos.... :lol: :lol: .......Hawthorn have a rumoured 20 million in the bank..... more then the broncos......... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go on Pies when you have lost debate move the posts i want look...... :lol:

BTW the Broncos have been around since 1988 to emass there assets and cash savings.

How long have the bombers been around Pies?................. =D>
Collingwood have a yearly football budget of over 50M, far more than ANY Australian sporting club......... :roll:
yet post smaller profits overall .. then just the broncos football dept ( we haven't even added the broncos gaming arms profits )
& have less cash in the bank then the broncos as well
again
revenue .. matters not
its profits .. end of :cool:
OMG! Stop making yourself look like a complete goose! They spend their yearly budget because they are non-for-profit! :roll:

For a non-for-profit organisation making a profit is not their aim. They have no share holders, no partners, no owners. Remaining viable and then building their club is their aim, and Collingwood do it by investing their money into assets and infrastructure amongst other things.
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Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Collingwood have a yearly football budget of over 50M, far more than ANY Australian sporting club......... :roll:
yet post smaller profits overall .. then just the broncos football dept ( we haven't even added the broncos gaming arms profits )
& have less cash in the bank then the broncos as well
again
revenue .. matters not
its profits .. end of :cool:
OMG! Stop making yourself look like a complete goose! They spend their yearly budget because they are non-for-profit! :roll:

For a non-for-profit organisation making a profit is not their aim. They have no share holders, no partners, no owners. Remaining viable and then building their club is their aim, and Collingwood do it by investing their money into assets and infrastructure amongst other things.

then why post annual reports ... why gloat in the media
who are they trying to impress ?
they can only build their club by making profits .. you can't invest with them

forget turnover
its meaningless ........... :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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As you can see by the chart, we are well ahead of 2012/2011/2010 and we are going towards the same route as 2008

Go brisbane :\: :\: :\: :\: :\: :\: :\: :\:
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Good news boys, our numbers have been updated

8,121

That's a boost of 4k

Cant believe our numbers were 2k a week ago

What a huge increase!!

Brisbanites are loving the lions!!!
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
yet post smaller profits overall .. then just the broncos football dept ( we haven't even added the broncos gaming arms profits )
& have less cash in the bank then the broncos as well
again
revenue .. matters not
its profits .. end of :cool:
OMG! Stop making yourself look like a complete goose! They spend their yearly budget because they are non-for-profit! :roll:

For a non-for-profit organisation making a profit is not their aim. They have no share holders, no partners, no owners. Remaining viable and then building their club is their aim, and Collingwood do it by investing their money into assets and infrastructure amongst other things.

then why post annual reports ... why gloat in the media
who are they trying to impress ?
they can only build their club by making profits .. you can't invest with them

forget turnover
its meaningless ........... :cool:
again, its not about profits its about ensuring youre viable or at least break even (even if that means over a number of years ie loss one year, profit the next) and then how much money you have to spend.

In a way its like Xmas shopping. The objective is to spend all your budgeted money buying family and friends gifts, as long as you spend within your means. But the more you earn the more you can spend, which is far better than someone who buys one small present then claims they're just as well off because they were left with just as much in hand. :lol:
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