Talking Footy

You're disputing the benefits of a nationwide comp?

Looking at the shamozzle in the AFL, no. I'm disputing the poor leadership and vision shown within the AFL organisation. They tried to achieve what they werent ready for and if they had've been reading ol KE's comments back in April 2012, they may well have made some inroads into fixing the shamozzle, but alas they havent.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Looking at the shamozzle in the AFL, no. I'm disputing the poor leadership and vision shown within the AFL organisation. They tried to achieve what they werent ready for and if they had've been reading ol KE's comments back in April 2012, they may well have made some inroads into fixing the shamozzle, but alas they havent.

So record membership numbers for the Sydney Swans and Greater Western Sydney Giants represents in your mind a 'shamozzle'? You're an idiot. Thank god the AFL doesn't take note of fools like you.

Beaussie get with the program ya turkey! The shamozzle is the yawning massive chasm the AFL find between a significant proportion of teams who can actually play and those who cant. I predicted it waaaayy back in april 2012, the first person I know of who predicted the massive extent of what was about to unfold. All due to poor leadership and vision down at AFL hq.

AFL leaders vision = these ones [tr] [/tr] and these ones $$$. Its a shame but true those marketing fuckwits are ruining the comp.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Beaussie get with the program ya turkey! The shamozzle is the yawning massive chasm the AFL find between a significant proportion of teams who can actually play and those who cant. I predicted it waaaayy back in april 2012, the first person I know of who predicted the massive extent of what was about to unfold. All due to poor leadership and vision down at AFL hq.

Yet everyone bar you knows the giants, suns and lions will all be good teams in the very near future. As Beaussie said, thank god the AFL dont listen to gutless whimps like you

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/AFL/teams/s ... 6602840027


AFL pays $900k Sydney Swans bonus

SYDNEY'S contentious $900,000 salary cap allowance is being paid by the AFL.

The Swans yesterday confirmed it was the league - and the not the club - which paid out the 9.8 per cent bonus.

Rival clubs expressed dismay, saying it meant the AFL had effectively paid for Kurt Tippett to become a Sydney Swan.

"It's a joke," one senior club figure said.

Sydney added Tippett to their premiership list in last year's pre-season draft.

But AFL boss Andrew Demetriou told the Herald Sun all clubs had signed off on the allowance about five years ago.

"It's not a secret. We went to the clubs and asked them as part of a unique cost - and the clubs all agreed," Demetriou said last night.

"It's a cost that other clubs don't incur."

Clubs are also frustrated that the Swans are saving another $672,000 this season by listing six players as veterans - Adam Goodes, Jude Bolton, Ryan O'Keefe, Jarrad McVeigh, Nick Malceski and Lewis Roberts-Thompson.

Changes to veterans list rules mean all clubs receive $112,000 relief in the salary cap for eligible players.

"It's the perfect storm up there," the club figure said, pointing out that the Swans have featured in the finals in 12 of the past 15 seasons.

The AFL is reviewing the cost of living allowance and is under pressure to scrap it to equalise the game.

But the Swans have indicated they will fight to keep the bonus - also afforded to Greater Western Sydney.

"That it is significantly more expensive to live in Sydney than in any other city in Australia is indisputable," Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland said in a statement.

"Our estimates suggest the true cost of living disparity is closer to 15 per cent and there is no shortage of evidence to support this.

"A major point of contention is the suggestion that we have stored the allowance and used it to recruit players, such as Kurt Tippett. That is simply incorrect.

"Every player contract at the Sydney Swans stipulates that the allowance must be paid in addition to the agreed contract figure.

"Every player has a manager, and every one of those managers is aware the club has the allowance. The allowance is also added to the standard contracts of rookie listed players.

"Like all clubs, each contract that is signed is reviewed by the AFL."

He said the Swans delisted or traded six senior players at the end of last year - Matt Spangher, Trent Dennis-Lane, Mark Seaby, Jarred Moore, Brett Meredith and Nathan Gordon.

"This player movement opened up approximately $1 million in the club's salary cap," he said.

"Those players were replaced with draftees and, of course, Kurt Tippett."





What a cruel joke this must be for so many loyal AFL supporters in Melbourne....

Hardly. The clubs agreed to the increase because its appropriate. the swans have only won 2 GFs in their 30 years in Sydney.

Now look at the storm, one of the smallest followings in Australian sport yet almost fully funded by the competition owner. Now it comes out that the storm have near the highest football expenditure of any NRl team and have made 6 GFs in 15 years.

This is far far worse!

Xman wrote:

Hardly. The clubs agreed to the increase because its appropriate. the swans have only won 2 GFs in their 30 years in Sydney.

Now look at the storm, one of the smallest followings in Australian sport yet almost fully funded by the competition owner. Now it comes out that the storm have near the highest football expenditure of any NRl team and have made 6 GFs in 15 years.

This is far far worse!

you can also add the broncos in that list as well

Xman wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Beaussie get with the program ya turkey! The shamozzle is the yawning massive chasm the AFL find between a significant proportion of teams who can actually play and those who cant. I predicted it waaaayy back in april 2012, the first person I know of who predicted the massive extent of what was about to unfold. All due to poor leadership and vision down at AFL hq.

Yet everyone bar you knows the giants, suns and lions will all be good teams in the very near future. As Beaussie said, thank god the AFL dont listen to gutless whimps like you

Wasnt it you Xman who stated during the GC's first year that they'd be a finals team in their third year?

King-Eliagh wrote:

Xman wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Beaussie get with the program ya turkey! The shamozzle is the yawning massive chasm the AFL find between a significant proportion of teams who can actually play and those who cant. I predicted it waaaayy back in april 2012, the first person I know of who predicted the massive extent of what was about to unfold. All due to poor leadership and vision down at AFL hq.

Yet everyone bar you knows the giants, suns and lions will all be good teams in the very near future. As Beaussie said, thank god the AFL dont listen to gutless whimps like you

Wasnt it you Xman who stated during the GC's first year that they'd be a finals team in their third year?

Really? I highly doubt that, but if I did I'm sure you can find it