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				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:31 pm
				by NSWAFL
				My understanding is that some members did go to games at BISS. The NEAFL isn't the AFL but at least some members took an interest in some of the young players the Giants were developing. I heard also that some figured that Israel Folau would make a surprise debut. The rumour never stuck though because there was no media coverage. If he had of debuted, the media would have grabbed it with both hands and done a full page spread on it.
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:32 pm
				by Raiderdave
				Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:
Sorry, this is wrong and will be deleted unless you find evidence quick smart!
 
I see
so no proof is provided of any fudging by the NRL ....... & it stays 
& my suggestion of the AFL doing the same requires proof or it will be deleted 
is that how it works ?
F me 
you don't even try n hide it do you ? 
  
  
  
 
We have documented evidence of what the NRL do, with one clear example of how their membership tallies are bolstered by a significant proportion of non ticketed numbers.
You stated the AFL do the same. You have provided NO evidence to show this is true.
Last chance. Prove it or it's gone.
 
you have evidence that 12K of the Bunnies 21K are ticketed the rest aren't 
Souths openly disclosed this .. they're not hiding anything 
thats not fudging 
you have evidence that ova  85% of NRL memberships are " ticketed " ... ova 85% 
yet you continue to say they fudge 
they quite clearly don't 
this is a thread based on an  unproven statement  .... it needs to go before anything I said does 
the only thing proven to date is your appalling moderating  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:58 pm
				by cos789
				Raiderdave wrote:you have evidence that 12K of the Bunnies 21K are ticketed the rest aren't 
Souths openly disclosed this .. they're not hiding anything 
thats not fudging 
 
The thread title says "NRL" not "South Sydney".
Stop wasting peoples's time. It's clear cut.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:10 pm
				by Raiderdave
				cos789 wrote:Raiderdave wrote:you have evidence that 12K of the Bunnies 21K are ticketed the rest aren't 
Souths openly disclosed this .. they're not hiding anything 
thats not fudging 
 
The thread title says "NRL" not "South Sydney".
Stop wasting peoples's time. It's clear cut.
 
they're the subject of the only so called evidence provided drop kick 
but for once you've made a point ... it does say NRL doesn't it  
 
where the NRL is concerned 
its even less so
ova 85% ticketed memberships with South Sydney 
90% without them 
the prosecution rests 
remove this thread Xman .... now !! 
  
  
  
 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:13 pm
				by Xman
				Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
I see
so no proof is provided of any fudging by the NRL ....... & it stays 
& my suggestion of the AFL doing the same requires proof or it will be deleted 
is that how it works ?
F me 
you don't even try n hide it do you ? 
  
  
  
 
We have documented evidence of what the NRL do, with one clear example of how their membership tallies are bolstered by a significant proportion of non ticketed numbers.
You stated the AFL do the same. You have provided NO evidence to show this is true.
Last chance. Prove it or it's gone.
 
you have evidence that 12K of the Bunnies 21K are ticketed the rest aren't 
Souths openly disclosed this .. they're not hiding anything 
thats not fudging 
you have evidence that ova  85% of NRL memberships are " ticketed " ... ova 85% 
yet you continue to say they fudge 
they quite clearly don't 
this is a thread based on an  unproven statement  .... it needs to go before anything I said does 
the only thing proven to date is your appalling moderating  

 
No, the evidence was for the rabbitohs who had an unusually hi proportion of non ticketed members. You claimed the AFL do the same without evidence. You were given ample time to find evidence and failed. Your claims were deleted as originally threatened.
You've been warned about complaining about mods on the forum. There's a process for that and this isn't it!
 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:15 pm
				by Xman
				Raiderdave wrote:cos789 wrote:Raiderdave wrote:you have evidence that 12K of the Bunnies 21K are ticketed the rest aren't 
Souths openly disclosed this .. they're not hiding anything 
thats not fudging 
 
The thread title says "NRL" not "South Sydney".
Stop wasting peoples's time. It's clear cut.
 
they're the subject of the only so called evidence provided drop kick 
but for once you've made a point ... it does say NRL doesn't it  
 
where the NRL is concerned 
its even less so
ova 85% ticketed memberships with South Sydney 
90% without them 
the prosecution rests 
remove this thread Xman .... now !! 
  
  
  
 
Show us why the rabbitohs are claiming such a high non ticketted number first. Otherwise the membership number claimed still looks suspicious.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:20 pm
				by Raiderdave
				Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:
We have documented evidence of what the NRL do, with one clear example of how their membership tallies are bolstered by a significant proportion of non ticketed numbers.
You stated the AFL do the same. You have provided NO evidence to show this is true.
Last chance. Prove it or it's gone.
 
you have evidence that 12K of the Bunnies 21K are ticketed the rest aren't 
Souths openly disclosed this .. they're not hiding anything 
thats not fudging 
you have evidence that ova  85% of NRL memberships are " ticketed " ... ova 85% 
yet you continue to say they fudge 
they quite clearly don't 
this is a thread based on an  unproven statement  .... it needs to go before anything I said does 
the only thing proven to date is your appalling moderating  

 
No, the evidence was for the rabbitohs who had an unusually hi proportion of non ticketed members. You claimed the AFL do the same without evidence. You were given ample time to find evidence and failed. Your claims were deleted as originally threatened.
You've been warned about complaining about mods on the forum. There's a process for that and this isn't it!
 
Souths claimed they have 21K members 
they do 
anyone who says they don't  or that number is not correct , needs to provide proof 
no one has to date
& until then 
I'll do what ever I fucking like 
just like you do  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:22 pm
				by Xman
				No one is doubting they have that number of non ticketed and ticketed members. The proportion is unusual. You claimed the AFL have similar counts. This was unproven.
End of story
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:37 pm
				by NSWAFL
				Suggest that all future comments here by Dave or Parra be deleted on sight, unless they provide proof of their statements.
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:25 am
				by ParraEelsNRL
				Vogue.
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:16 am
				by Raiderdave
				NSWAFL wrote:Suggest that all future comments here by Dave or Parra be deleted on sight, unless they provide proof of their statements.
 
suggest you shut the F.uck up you whining little lady boy  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:19 am
				by Raiderdave
				Xman wrote:No one is doubting they have that number of non ticketed and ticketed members. The proportion is unusual. You claimed the AFL have similar counts. This was unproven.
End of story
 
is the Title of this thread " Souths have an Unsual proportion of non ticketed members " ?
no
it doesn't even refer to Souths ... it says the NRL is fudging its membership numbers 
this has not been proven & in fact a rate of ova 85% ticketed membership HAS been proven.
this thread needs to go 
& beaussie needs to be warned about making claims he can't prove 
lets get this done 
start being a moderator for a change .....  
  
  
  
 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:39 am
				by Xman
				Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:No one is doubting they have that number of non ticketed and ticketed members. The proportion is unusual. You claimed the AFL have similar counts. This was unproven.
End of story
 
is the Title of this thread " Souths have an Unsual proportion of non ticketed members " ?
no
it doesn't even refer to Souths ... it says the NRL is fudging its membership numbers 
this has not been proven & in fact a rate of ova 85% ticketed membership HAS been proven.
this thread needs to go 
& beaussie needs to be warned about making claims he can't prove 
lets get this done 
start being a moderator for a change .....  
  
  
  
 
I see your point. 
I tend to agree with you. The rabbitohs non ticketed to ticketted proportion seems 'suspect' in my opinion, but there is no support for a claim of fudging for the NRL overall. Therefore the claim of the thread title has not been supported by facts.
However, your claim that the AFL do the same as the Rabbitohs has not been proven either.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:42 am
				by NSWAFL
				Hang on, Xman, how do we know that other NRL clubs aren't doing the same thing as Souths? We have no evidence either way, so at present it would be reasonable in the absence of evidence that other NRL clubs could be doing the same thing. Remember that the NRL is not a membership buying culture. The AFL on the other hand is, which is why the claim carries zero weight.
			 
			
					
				Re: NRL Fudged Membership Numbers
				Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:01 am
				by Xman
				NSWAFL wrote:Hang on, Xman, how do we know that other NRL clubs aren't doing the same thing as Souths? We have no evidence either way, so at present it would be reasonable in the absence of evidence that other NRL clubs could be doing the same thing. Remember that the NRL is not a membership buying culture. The AFL on the other hand is, which is why the claim carries zero weight.
 
I have seen evidence. It hasn't been posted so I will.
http://www.rugbyleague.com.au/nrl/2011_ ... e_game.pdf
It shows that the total memberships for the NrL last year were 180k and less than 40k were unticketted.