Talking Footy

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

It's a pre season comp shown on TV dumbo, they count those games and add their numbers.

But but but but but but but but but but

They are practice games with no meaning. No team takes them seriously, nor do the fans. But I can see why you want them counted.

And they shouldn't be if they are - for that very reason. I'm actually in favour of dumping the pre season comp, and concentrate on playing practice matches in the sticks.

The AFL has 207 games + 30 preseason games this year The NRL has 201 games + rep games + 1 preseason game (is that correct).

As the Australian Rugby League Commission revels in the super-sized audience for last week's first State of Origin match in Melbourne, where an average of 2.51 million people tuned in across the five state capitals, the highest rating for the league's marquee match since OzTam started recording ratings in 1999, an analysis by Citigroup warned that the winning network might not be able to gain enough advertising revenue to justify a massive bid for the rights.

Justin Diddams, an equity analyst with Citigroup, said missing out on the rights could be disastrous for the loser. "The network that misses out risks being stuck in third place for a prolonged period," he said.

Mr Diddams said the law of diminishing returns could apply to the advertising revenue from National Rugby League matches.


His report predicts rights to the code, including free-to-air and subscription TV, as well as digital rights, would be worth $950 million, although a best-case scenario would be over $1 billion.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/n ... 6368687199

Did the AFL's $1.2 billion deal include the digital rights? I don't think it did!

If I had to make a guess. That is about were I would see the rights being at. The NRL will get between 1 billion and 1.05 billion with FTA+PTV+digital+ NZ (sky). You also have to remember that the NRL will have to pay a lot less overall for salaries because they have a lot less players to pay. They would also be 16 teams compared to the AFL's 18 teams.
Once the TV deal is done it will be time for them to concentrate on getting more sponserships and members. The NRL have a lot of ground to catch up if they want to generate the revenue that the AFL do, even with a good TV deal.

TLPG wrote:

Did the AFL's $1.2 billion deal include the digital rights? I don't think it did!

So let me get this straight TPLG, we have all been going on about the tv rights for both codes for years now and you still don't know if the AFL deal included Digital rights??????? Do you even read these forums or just hop on here with you random comments.
Mate your not on the ball today huh....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/main-p ... 6046293950

Xman wrote:

As the Australian Rugby League Commission revels in the super-sized audience for last week's first State of Origin match in Melbourne, where an average of 2.51 million people tuned in across the five state capitals, the highest rating for the league's marquee match since OzTam started recording ratings in 1999, an analysis by Citigroup warned that the winning network might not be able to gain enough advertising revenue to justify a massive bid for the rights.

Justin Diddams, an equity analyst with Citigroup, said missing out on the rights could be disastrous for the loser. "The network that misses out risks being stuck in third place for a prolonged period," he said.

Mr Diddams said the law of diminishing returns could apply to the advertising revenue from National Rugby League matches.


His report predicts rights to the code, including free-to-air and subscription TV, as well as digital rights, would be worth $950 million, although a best-case scenario would be over $1 billion.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/n ... 6368687199

As the Australian Rugby League Commission revels in the super-sized audience for last week's first State of Origin match in Melbourne, where an average of 2.51 million people tuned in across the five state capitals, the highest rating for the league's marquee match since OzTam started recording ratings in 1999,
Justin Diddams, an equity analyst with Citigroup, said missing out on the rights could be disastrous for the loser. "The network that misses out risks being stuck in third place for a prolonged period," he said.

BTW dopey another australian article, ie News limited.
How hard is it these days to pay a analyst to give his own skewed view on things?????

eelofwest wrote:

Xman wrote:

As the Australian Rugby League Commission revels in the super-sized audience for last week's first State of Origin match in Melbourne, where an average of 2.51 million people tuned in across the five state capitals, the highest rating for the league's marquee match since OzTam started recording ratings in 1999, an analysis by Citigroup warned that the winning network might not be able to gain enough advertising revenue to justify a massive bid for the rights.

Justin Diddams, an equity analyst with Citigroup, said missing out on the rights could be disastrous for the loser. "The network that misses out risks being stuck in third place for a prolonged period," he said.

Mr Diddams said the law of diminishing returns could apply to the advertising revenue from National Rugby League matches.


His report predicts rights to the code, including free-to-air and subscription TV, as well as digital rights, would be worth $950 million, although a best-case scenario would be over $1 billion.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/n ... 6368687199

As the Australian Rugby League Commission revels in the super-sized audience for last week's first State of Origin match in Melbourne, where an average of 2.51 million people tuned in across the five state capitals, the highest rating for the league's marquee match since OzTam started recording ratings in 1999,
Justin Diddams, an equity analyst with Citigroup, said missing out on the rights could be disastrous for the loser. "The network that misses out risks being stuck in third place for a prolonged period," he said.

BTW dopey another australian article, ie News limited.
How hard is it these days to pay a analyst to give his own skewed view on things?????

It's an article describing Independant analysis fool!

You're excuses are pathetic

piesman2011 wrote:

If I had to make a guess. That is about were I would see the rights being at. The NRL will get between 1 billion and 1.05 billion with FTA+PTV+digital+ NZ (sky). You also have to remember that the NRL will have to pay a lot less overall for salaries because they have a lot less players to pay. They would also be 16 teams compared to the AFL's 18 teams.
Once the TV deal is done it will be time for them to concentrate on getting more sponserships and members. The NRL have a lot of ground to catch up if they want to generate the revenue that the AFL do, even with a good TV deal.

Exactly the NRL could get 1b and be happy with this, its a 16 team comp with 13players in each team as opposed to paying 1.2b for 18 players 18 teams.

The cap goes up to 5million next year divide that by 13 players = 384,000 per player. Not bad for a first raise in the cap, 2nd raise in the cap is 6m btw. AFL cap 7m or there a bouts, divide this by 18 = 388,000 per player.

126 Million each year granted to AFL teams if i am not mistaken. 630m over 5 years granted to the AFL clubs.
65.6m granted to NRL clubs every year. 328m granted to NRL clubs over the last 5 years currently. Next year 80m granted to NRL clubs and its just goes up slightly from there.

So you see the NRL is going along quite fine and with another 2 teams to add to the comp this is going to be a great 5 years for the code.

The NRL will never have the crowds that AFL have due to some factors.
1 AFL games have 36 players on the field at any given moment the NRL have 26, that is 36 players family's watching the game as opposed to 26. 36 family's advertising your game for free, as opposed to 26.
2 AFL is great live at the game NRL is a great TV sport.

These 2 points IMO are the main reasons we can never match crowd attendances of the AFL.
But the NRL can make more then enough money through TV rights in AUS, NZ, ENG, PNG in years to come.

eelofwest wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Did the AFL's $1.2 billion deal include the digital rights? I don't think it did!

So let me get this straight TPLG, we have all been going on about the tv rights for both codes for years now and you still don't know if the AFL deal included Digital rights??????? Do you even read these forums or just hop on here with you random comments.
Mate your not on the ball today huh....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/main-p ... 6046293950

I only read what's logical - and you thugby morons aren't logical.

Having said that, thanks for the link - and I want to point out that if the ARLC include New Zealand and PNG in their final deal it would be inappropriate to compare it to the AFL's. Ditto the inclusion of rep games in the deal. For true equality, let's see what the NRL portion of the deal is worth within Australia only. I doubt it would break $1 billion.

eelofwest wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

If I had to make a guess. That is about were I would see the rights being at. The NRL will get between 1 billion and 1.05 billion with FTA+PTV+digital+ NZ (sky). You also have to remember that the NRL will have to pay a lot less overall for salaries because they have a lot less players to pay. They would also be 16 teams compared to the AFL's 18 teams.
Once the TV deal is done it will be time for them to concentrate on getting more sponserships and members. The NRL have a lot of ground to catch up if they want to generate the revenue that the AFL do, even with a good TV deal.

Exactly the NRL could get 1b and be happy with this, its a 16 team comp with 13players in each team as opposed to paying 1.2b for 18 players 18 teams.

You're forgetting that the AFLs tv rights revenue only makes up around a quarter of its yearly income because the gate receipts, sponsorship and memberships bring in such massive amounts of money. These areas provide a very small proportion of the NRLs revenue so they rely heavily on a decent tv rights deal.

TLPG wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Did the AFL's $1.2 billion deal include the digital rights? I don't think it did!

So let me get this straight TPLG, we have all been going on about the tv rights for both codes for years now and you still don't know if the AFL deal included Digital rights??????? Do you even read these forums or just hop on here with you random comments.
Mate your not on the ball today huh....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/main-p ... 6046293950

I only read what's logical - and you thugby morons aren't logical.

Having said that, thanks for the link - and I want to point out that if the ARLC include New Zealand and PNG in their final deal it would be inappropriate to compare it to the AFL's. Ditto the inclusion of rep games in the deal. For true equality, let's see what the NRL portion of the deal is worth within Australia only. I doubt it would break $1 billion.

Wrong again dopey, we don't have a TV deal with PNG atm only NZ.

My point still stands.

eelofwest wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Did the AFL's $1.2 billion deal include the digital rights? I don't think it did!

So let me get this straight TPLG, we have all been going on about the tv rights for both codes for years now and you still don't know if the AFL deal included Digital rights??????? Do you even read these forums or just hop on here with you random comments.
Mate your not on the ball today huh....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/main-p ... 6046293950