Is The AFL Racist?

[Xman]

I beg to differ Xman. You dont know anything about it nor watch it so you should be humble, especially in regards to the spectacle it provides.

I've seen plenty. It usually provides a good laugh, especially the empty stands.

[King-Eliagh]

You havent seen plenty, you've seen little to none, as you've previously stated. Why lie to us Xman?

[TLPG]

Oh and TLPG if we were to use your definition of 'players representing other nations' i.e. someone who was born in iran to two anglo aussie diplomats and lived there for the first 6months before moving back to melbourne. Then the numbers of nations represented in the NRL would be well over 100 :D

Prove it with names and countries like has been previously done with the list of 51 for the AFL.

Prove the validity of the recent immigrant non anlgo status of that 51 countries list.

And then give us the numbers of players who can validly be called non anglo recent immigrants. Then we'll compare it to the NRL ok? :D This will be for your benefit not mine, cause unlike you im not blind.

No, you prove that there are 100 countries represented in the NRL per the definition you say the list of 51 for the AFL applies. In the same way.

Or are you a coward? Or a BS artist?

[King-Eliagh]

Ahh you cant prove the validity of recent immigrant status TLPG. Thought not!

[Xman]

You havent seen plenty, you've seen little to none, as you've previously stated. Why lie to us Xman?

Sure I've seen plenty. As I said, I watch NRL on foxtel when I can. It's funny stuff, especially the lack of crowds or atmosphere!

[King-Eliagh]

Ah Xman, you're lying again. Why? Would you like me to go back and get your quote saying you've seen next to nothing of RL?

[TLPG]

Ahh you cant prove the validity of recent immigrant status TLPG. Thought not!

I don't need to. The list is there.

Now come up with the evidence of 100 countries represented in the NRL in the same terms that you claim is the basis of the AFL list - or I will ask Xman to create a BS file against you for your claim.

[Xman]

Ah Xman, you're lying again. Why? Would you like me to go back and get your quote saying you've seen next to nothing of RL?

I don't know that much about the game of RL, certainly compared to fans. But I still watch the odd game on foxtel as I have stated. It entertaining in its desperation.

[pookus]

How can you call any of these organisations racist?Again on this issue both codes are way ahead of the general populous.Anyone who watched dumb drunk and racist and didnt cringe has a problem.The one thing I will say is that I think we cringe a bit harder in melbourne than other parts of Aus and the direction of the AFL is highly influenced by the sensabilities of melbournites.Remember the only lower house greens member stands in the seat of melbourne.Like them or loathe them their policies on racism are the most forward undeniably.So it is pretty safe to say that Melbourne is the most tolerant place in Australia and our great game reflects this.

[King-Eliagh]

How can you call any of these organisations racist?Again on this issue both codes are way ahead of the general populous.Anyone who watched dumb drunk and racist and didnt cringe has a problem.The one thing I will say is that I think we cringe a bit harder in melbourne than other parts of Aus and the direction of the AFL is highly influenced by the sensabilities of melbournites.Remember the only lower house greens member stands in the seat of melbourne.Like them or loathe them their policies on racism are the most forward undeniably.So it is pretty safe to say that Melbourne is the most tolerant place in Australia and our great game reflects this.

Jesus pookus, that call came waaaay outta left field. Fair enough its not the most valid call to say the code is racist but to say... "Safe to say melbourne is the most tolerant place in aus and our great game reflects this" on the evidence you've given is quite simply, vommit inducing.

I think what we've witnessed here is your brain has just vommitted and its all poured straight out onto this thread. Please, take it off at once. Why i've never seen such an egocentric ignorant pile of vile brain vommit in my life.

And stop watching that ignoramous joe hildebrands trashy film making. This country does have problems with racism but we dont need an ignorant smarmy college boy who's been spoonfed the 'shock and awe' journalistic prowess of Kochie and the sunrise crew to point his little camera at a bunch of uneducated bogans while hildebrand laughs his way to the bank as a bunch of slightly less uneducated bogans lap it up with their hands to their faces in shocked aghast at what our education system and history has produced.

Watch something better.

[pookus]

How can you call any of these organisations racist?Again on this issue both codes are way ahead of the general populous.Anyone who watched dumb drunk and racist and didnt cringe has a problem.The one thing I will say is that I think we cringe a bit harder in melbourne than other parts of Aus and the direction of the AFL is highly influenced by the sensabilities of melbournites.Remember the only lower house greens member stands in the seat of melbourne.Like them or loathe them their policies on racism are the most forward undeniably.So it is pretty safe to say that Melbourne is the most tolerant place in Australia and our great game reflects this.

Jesus pookus, that call came waaaay outta left field. Fair enough its not the most valid call to say the code is racist but to say... "Safe to say melbourne is the most tolerant place in aus and our great game reflects this" on the evidence you've given is quite simply, vommit inducing.

I think what we've witnessed here is your brain has just vommitted and its all poured straight out onto this thread. Please, take it off at once. Why i've never seen such an egocentric ignorant pile of vile brain vommit in my life.

And stop watching that ignoramous joe hildebrands trashy film making. This country does have problems with racism but we dont need an ignorant smarmy college boy who's been spoonfed the 'shock and awe' journalistic prowess of Kochie and the sunrise crew to point his little camera at a bunch of uneducated bogans while hildebrand laughs his way to the bank as a bunch of slightly less uneducated bogans lap it up with their hands to their faces in shocked aghast at what our education system and history has produced.

Watch something better.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Melbourne isnt the most multicultural city in Australia or the most tolerant.Do we really need to debate this ? And granted it is drawing a rather long bow but i do think it is far from vomit.Im just throwing up the facts.And the fact that melbourne is the only place to have a sitting greens member does show that our politics are very different from the rest of AUS.The evidence you provide for your argument is ridiculous.Because you have more people of colour playing your game doesnt make it more tolerant it just means it is played by more countries of colour.Soccer is by far the most multi cultural and has by far the biggest problem with racism.And I agree with you on Hilderbrands nonsense but it doesnt mean that we shouldnt pay attention.For an example of what Im saying we will use Joey Johns.If his little racist tirade had of happened in melbourne he may have been forgiven by the league but you would never see him on tele again this I can promise you.Now on your personal attack how does this show ignorance.I think you need to travel more my friend.So instead of doing what the uneducated do and get abusive come up with one fact that shows Sydney to be more tolerant than Melbourne and Ill show you plenty in the reverse. We wont even mention Queensland where as we speak they are changing laws to strengthen ignorance.Now where are our games from?And if we are talking education "vomited" brother you were close

[King-Eliagh]

you think i was abusing you? that's not abuse my friend, its banter. Now to the melbourne stuff. While I agree its a lovely city and generally find the folk there more cultured than the sydney folk to state its "the most tolerant place in australia" and that basically "therefore the code of marngrook is" is codswallop. Its city centric trash you are prattling on about. There's prob hundreds of country towns in aus which have a much more tolerant and integrated community than melbourne. While the scale is smaller, if expanded im sure you could find this to be true. PErhaps the most tolerant city is melbourne.

And my point about the mix of colours and cultures in RL is based on scientifically agreed upon theory that diversity breeds tolerance. Even TLPG gets this. One look at an AFL match and we can see that there just aint too many coloured folk playing the game. Soccer is an illegitimate comparison, a completely different context but RL and the AFL comp are a great comparison to make. For whatever reason the AFL has yet to attract significant proportions of players other than your white aussies. I have no big prob with this but it doesnt help the code build tolerance. Therefore its more likely the AFL has more significant racism issues than RL, and goodseys recent interview tells us it's still quite commonplace but undercover in the AFL comp.

[Xman]

you think i was abusing you? that's not abuse my friend, its banter. Now to the melbourne stuff. While I agree its a lovely city and generally find the folk there more cultured than the sydney folk to state its "the most tolerant place in australia" and that basically "therefore the code of marngrook is" is codswallop. Its city centric trash you are prattling on about. There's prob hundreds of country towns in aus which have a much more tolerant and integrated community than melbourne. While the scale is smaller, if expanded im sure you could find this to be true. PErhaps the most tolerant city is melbourne.

And my point about the mix of colours and cultures in RL is based on scientifically agreed upon theory that diversity breeds tolerance. Even TLPG gets this. One look at an AFL match and we can see that there just aint too many coloured folk playing the game. Soccer is an illegitimate comparison, a completely different context but RL and the AFL comp are a great comparison to make. For whatever reason the AFL has yet to attract significant proportions of players other than your white aussies. I have no big prob with this but it doesnt help the code build tolerance. Therefore its more likely the AFL has more significant racism issues than RL, and goodseys recent interview tells us it's still quite commonplace but undercover in the AFL comp.

Again no. He said there were still some instances which players were not reporting, but overall they were winning the war against racism. How is that "commonplace but undercover"?

Goodes says "almost isn't good enough" but the war is being won. How can 'almost' irradicated be described as 'commonplace'? Stop lying!

As for recent issues, the NRLs have been far more serious and involved a significant group of people. All these acts went unpunished!

[Xman]

And my point about the mix of colours and cultures in RL is based on scientifically agreed upon theory that diversity breeds tolerance. Even TLPG gets this. One look at an AFL match and we can see that there just aint too many coloured folk playing the game. Soccer is an illegitimate comparison, a completely different context but RL and the AFL comp are a great comparison to make. For whatever reason the AFL has yet to attract significant proportions of players other than your white aussies. I have no big prob with this but it doesnt help the code build tolerance. Therefore its more likely the AFL has more significant racism issues than RL, and goodseys recent interview tells us it's still quite commonplace but undercover in the AFL comp.

COUNTRY Rugby League CEO Terry Quinn believes racism is a serious issue in rugby league everywhere, not just in Group 10.
Orange Hawks claim their Polynesian contingent have been antagonised racially by a number of teams throughout the year and on Saturday against Orange CYMS, it was members of the crowd hurling racial taunts towards Tongan players.
Quinn said he was aware of the claims.
“My understanding is the blue on the weekend had nothing to do with racism on the field. But we certainly won’t tolerate racism in any form,” Quinn said.
“We know that Group 10 received letters from Hawks about racism and we’re investigating that at the moment. We take these claims very seriously.”
On top of Hawks’ claims, Group 11 player Joe Williams also lodged a formal complaint about racism earlier in the year.
He later withdrew that same complaint.
Quinn believes racism is an issue rugby league as a whole has to address.
“I’d be lying if I didn’t say there was an issue with racial slurs in the game, and that’s not just out your way, it’s in the game everywhere,” he said.

http://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/n ... 47637.aspx

Hmmmm, how is this diversity reducing racism?

[piesman2011]

This sort of crap makes me sad to be Australian. It is a good reason to not use the Australian flag as a cape or to get a southern cross tatoo. It is sad that our flag and our most recognisable constellation are so commonly associated with racism.