AFL & NRL Footy Crowds - 2024

[azif]

Good to see the nrl increasing their crowd sizes in general.

yep
next goal is an average of 25,000 per game
To get to this figure there will need to be new stadiums , & continued improvements in venues where the NRL is played currently
both are in the pipeline
the NRL is finally realising its potential & entrenching its place as the regions numb one sport

[Fred]

I think rl has always been number 1 in most areas of nsw and qld.

My son again work at broncos and dolphins - said the crowd was good but a one sided affair - but can’t believe how short the game is. Do you thi k making the game experience longer would help with people going?


Brisbane always has good crowds though too. What’s the average for nsw? I think that’s where it is let down but do hear some clubs are getting good crowds - like at the new stadium in (Penrith) or parramatta .

Maybe ground rationalisation is the way to go to get numbers up - meaning sma suburban games go . They did that in the AFL but then we see western bulldogs play a few game in Ballarat - and of course there is Manuka.

[azif]

I think rl has always been number 1 in most areas of nsw and qld.

My sim again work at broncos and dolphins - said the crowd was good but a one sided affair - but can’t believe how short the game is. Do you thi k making the game experience longer would help with people going?


Brisbane always has good crowds though too. What’s the average for nsw? I think that’s where it is let down but do hear some clubs are getting good crowds - like at the new stadium in (Penrith) or parramatta .

Maybe ground rationalisation is the way to go to get numbers up - meaning sma suburban games go . They did that in the AFL but then we see western bulldogs play a few game in Ballarat - and of course there is Manuka.

the region i was referring too was Australasia /Oceania
Rugby League is the regions biggest sport , by some way

RL is the perfect length , it seems it goesquickly because it is a seemless spectacle , unlike that fumbling flim flam that goes for way too long ... possibly why no one can kick straight catch or stay on their feet
crowds in the NRL are up in all jurisdictions , & while I think ground rationalisation needs to be looked at more closely , is not so simple for a city like Sydney with the geographical challenges , water mainly & the vast distances between teams.

[Fred]

I think it is short if comparing to an AFL
Match - the AFL have actually worked to shorten the game over the years - and still are.

What my son does like about the nrl is the off field entertainment - re kind the half time shows they put on are amazing. Is this a newish thing ? If so, may explain partly the increase.

[azif]

I think it is short if comparing to an AFL
Match - the AFL have actually worked to shorten the game over the years - and still are.

What my son does like about the nrl is the off field entertainment - re kind the half time shows they put on are amazing. Is this a newish thing ? If so, may explain partly the increase.

I think RL is the perfect length of time , it results in a fast physical spectacle
AFL are shortening their game because its a mess & the amount of mistakes , fumbling bumbling & missing due to fatigue produces a poor product. Maybe this is why still only half the country is interested in it & no one else on the planet ?

[Fred]

I am not sure where you get half the country - I don''t thinkl state borders are an indication as aussie rules bleeds well into NSW and of course SEQ has a heavy aussie rules presence and scene. And places in Far north QLD have a very strong AFL presence. I think the NRL would love to have the footprint in their Non traditional states that the AFL has in Qld and NSW. I think Vlandy's is working on it though and think he is the man for the job. I know rating in NSW and QLd aren't great for AFL but other metrics seem quite good.

[azif]

I am not sure where you get half the country - I don''t thinkl state borders are an indication as aussie rules bleeds well into NSW and of course SEQ has a heavy aussie rules presence and scene. And places in Far north QLD have a very strong AFL presence. I think the NRL would love to have the footprint in their Non traditional states that the AFL has in Qld and NSW. I think Vlandy's is working on it though and think he is the man for the job. I know rating in NSW and QLd aren't great for AFL but other metrics seem quite good.

you're right

its less then half .....
when that fumbling flim flam is about 30 million sets of eyeballs behind the NRL each season ... its certainly not half

[Fred]

If we were to draw a line - or shade a map - I think there would be large sections where AFL and NRL coexist - and this would be north of the barassi line - SEQ for instance, part of north queensland, 100 k into NSW at nsw/vic border.

Agree re: rating in these two states could be better but cannot argue with crowds in these areas - the amount of clubs, leagues etc.

[azif]

If we were to draw a line - or shade a map - I think there would be large sections where AFL and NRL coexist - and this would be north of the barassi line - SEQ for instance, part of north queensland, 100 k into NSW at nsw/vic border.

Agree re: rating in these two states could be better but cannot argue with crowds in these areas - the amount of clubs, leagues etc.

about 100K people live under that line north of the Murray in NSW ....
theres a few pockets of relatively small insignificant support in Sydney & SE QLD for the fumbling game , another 100K in total .. a few fans in Canberra , a few

The population difference between the fumbling states & NRL states is over 2 million to the NRL
saying less then half of our country has interest in the game from Vicdumboh is not only a sensible thing to say , its entirely accurate

[Fred]

I don't think there is a small amount of support in SEQ - RL is still the dominant code but aussie rules go way back in QLD history - particularly in the South East - hence there have been many players go on to play at the elite level going back prior to AFL having a team here. So it has always had a foothold here. I don't know the numbers exactly of course, we both can only guess, but participation rates (registered players with clubs not auskick), amount of teams and leagues, crowd sizes - I don't think you can just say they don't count.

Anyway - it doesn't really matter - I will say this - the NRL would love to have the presence in victoria or south Australia that AFL has in NSW and QLD.

[azif]

I don't think there is a small amount of support in SEQ - RL is still the dominant code but aussie rules go way back in QLD history - particularly in the South East - hence there have been many players go on to play at the elite level going back prior to AFL having a team here. So it has always had a foothold here. I don't know the numbers exactly of course, we both can only guess, but participation rates (registered players with clubs not auskick), amount of teams and leagues, crowd sizes - I don't think you can just say they don't count.

Anyway - it doesn't really matter - I will say this - the NRL would love to have the presence in victoria or south Australia that AFL has in NSW and QLD.

there are 3.5 million people in SE Qld
the wions average about 30K at the ground & not many more on TV
the thuns average 16K at the ground & not many more on TV

there is a small amount of supporters for the fumbling game in SEQ... end of

[Fred]

I would not say it is small - the numbers of registered players, the number of grounds, the number of new ground, the growth in women's AFL, the amount of leagues - anything but small.

[azif]

I would not say it is small - the numbers of registered players, the number of grounds, the number of new ground, the growth in women's AFL, the amount of leagues - anything but small.

its small
tiny

niche .... in half the country

[azif]

we know the AFL lie , manipulate & misrepresent their playing numbers & have done so for decades
to hide how small they actually are

[azif]

example

one of hundreds
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/AFL/AFL ... 22knq.html