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"We're really keen to build South Africa and the South Pacific in the traditional sense, to get participation numbers up," Sheehan said. "And from that talent emerges.

"Right at the moment, we have 100,000 people playing football around the world (outside Australia) and most of those are in the southern hemisphere.

"We'd like to build that to about 200,000 in five years. If we set it up, the kids will come and play, and we're really quite ambitious about South Africa and the South Pacific. In other parts, like the US, Canada and Ireland, there might be the odd one at 20 or 21 who might switch across, but we'll never grow to be quite large in the northern hemisphere.

"But we really think there's a niche for us in the southern hemisphere to grow into a mass participation sport.

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That'd be what parafeel ? 100,000

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Holy smokes batman, the AFL is a dominant force o/s! check out the masses at the final of the european cup! :lol:

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Yep its 'BIG' o/s alright :lol:
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And the international cup on video! 'Holy posts batman' is that Rugby League posts they're kicking the ball at in the international Aussie Rules cup?

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17829553

This sport's takin overt the world!!! Somebody stop it, its getting so BIG!
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And the international cup on video! 'Holy posts batman' is that Rugby League posts they're kicking the ball at in the international Aussie Rules cup?

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17829553

This sport's takin overt the world!!! Somebody stop it, its getting so BIG!
But as the recently posted figures show, as far as participation numbers go, international AFL is actually closer to 1/2 RL in the UK, not 1/50th.
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Firstly its officially call international australian football. lets get the terminology right on this website for once Xman. secondly, if those participation numbers are valid, which they're prob not when compared with official RL participation figures as the RL in england is much more professionally organised, but if they were valid participation numbers this is only a minor indicator of how big a sport is. In terms of professionalism and the associated money and level of public interest, the RFL is thousands of times bigger than international aussie rules. The international cup, the BIGGEST stage for international aussie rules being played in a park with RL posts! :lol:

Now that's real proof of domination, absolute domination. International aussie rules = RL's submissive lil slut --- *cue nswafl's porn links for international aussie rules teams :lol:
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Firstly its officially call international australian football. lets get the terminology right on this website for once Xman. secondly, if those participation numbers are valid, which they're prob not when compared with official RL participation figures as the RL in england is much more professionally organised, but if they were valid participation numbers this is only a minor indicator of how big a sport is. In terms of professionalism and the associated money and level of public interest, the RFL is thousands of times bigger than international aussie rules. The international cup, the BIGGEST stage for international aussie rules being played in a park with RL posts! :lol:

Now that's real proof of domination, absolute domination. International aussie rules = RL's submissive lil slut --- *cue nswafl's porn links for international aussie rules teams :lol:
participiation numbers are one indicator, and a fairly significant one I would think. They suggest the difference is no where near 50 times, but probably closer to two times. No matter what the other indicators show this place enormous doubt on Para's original claim, suggesting it was nothing but complete and utter BS!
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In this case participation numbers are not a fairly significant indicator and you know it Xman! :\:

The level of professionalism far exceeds how many play the game. I'm sure hopscotch participation in australia outnumbers aussie rules participation by quite a few. I had a few goes of it myself as a junior, as I'm sure you would have two Xman. Jolly good ol fashion fun. And what about handball at school eh? Handballs huuuuge participation numbers, do they mean handball is bigger than AR? It's professionalism which makes a sport big, not how many play it as amateurs for fun. The photo and video highlight that on its biggest stages international AR is about 1/20,000 (i think much smaller, this is generous) as big as the RFL. :lol:
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Holy smokes batman, the AFL is a dominant force o/s! check out the masses at the final of the european cup!
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Yep its 'BIG' o/s alright
Yes, you have a photo of 4 players holding up the Cup.
Is this the presentation ceremony - no.
Is this just after the finish of the game - no.
Is there a shot of the stadium - no

All this prooves is that they're using AR posts.
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In this case participation numbers are not a fairly significant indicator and you know it Xman! :\:

The level of professionalism far exceeds how many play the game. I'm sure hopscotch participation in australia outnumbers aussie rules participation by quite a few. I had a few goes of it myself as a junior, as I'm sure you would have two Xman. Jolly good ol fashion fun. And what about handball at school eh? Handballs huuuuge participation numbers, do they mean handball is bigger than AR? It's professionalism which makes a sport big, not how many play it as amateurs for fun. The photo and video highlight that on its biggest stages international AR is about 1/20,000 (i think much smaller, this is generous) as big as the RFL. :lol:
Of course participation numbers are significant. They are one of the few measurable indicators of size that we have and are clearly related to popularity. How do you measure professionalism? Yes RL have professional competitions in UK. Why does that mean they are bigger? It means they are more professional, which is not the category we are comparing.

Relating either ARs or RL to hopscotch is ridiculous. Hopscotch is not an organised team sport, it's an informal school yard game. ARs and RL are both comparable team sports.
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July 8, 2011

Australian Rules Football Goes Irish: Dublin Ohio Style
It’s pretty rare to host a national championship of any kind, let alone one that will attract participants from across the United States and abroad.

The Dublin Convention and Visitors Bureau and the City of Dublin worked collaboratively for more than a year in an effort to land the United States Australian Rules Football National Championship right here in Dublin. We found out this week that Dublin was not only selected to host the 2013 National Championship but also the 2012 49th Parallel Cup, which is an annual event that features the United States National Team vs. the Canadian National Team. The event includes competition from both men and women. If you haven’t seen this sport, it is worth taking a look! Both events will be open to the public.

These events translate into big business for Dublin – an estimated $2 million in economic impact will be spent by visitors and participants to these two events. The 2013 U.S. Australian Rules Football National Championship will be held in the fall at Darree Fields in Dublin and will attract teams from across North America and abroad. The annual championships include a variety of divisions for men and women and attract clubs representing more than 40 cities across the United States.

As you can imagine, securing these national championships was extremely competitive. Dublin competed against numerous cities across the United States and Canada. In the end, the tournament selected Dublin because of “tremendous facilities, passion and past history of hosting world-class events.” I’m not sure there are too many cities across the world with a population of only 42,000 that are hosts to so many international events – Memorial Tournament, Dublin Irish Festival, Ryder Cup, Presidents Cup, Can-Am Police Fire Games and now the U.S. Australian Rules Football National Championship – just to name a few!

http://irishattitudeblog.com/2011/07/08 ... hio-style/


http://irishattitudeblog.com/2011/07/08 ... hio-style/
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And the international cup on video! 'Holy posts batman' is that Rugby League posts they're kicking the ball at in the international Aussie Rules cup?

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17829553

This sport's takin overt the world!!! Somebody stop it, its getting so BIG!
The cup was played in Belfast. No one knows why because they don't have any AFL equipped venues. That's what caused that and I heard that the AFL criticised AFL Europe for it. It won't happen again.
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Cos you posted a blog with a silent L. :lol: It's BS evidence and you should be punished with a point. Cos if that's not right after the game can you find us some quality snaps of the euro cup final, the stadium, final ceremony in all their glory then? :lol: If not then I guess it all wasn't really internet worthy then eh? :lol: Blooooody HuuUUUUUuuuGE!

i must give it to you though, they have atleast used aussie rules posts for the euro cup, mighty low posts though arent they? i doubt they're held in the ground for more than a day and i think you can buy them from the local hardware store :lol:

Xman - "Relating either ARs or RL to hopscotch is ridiculous"

Yes clearly I agree. So is relating international aussie rules to international league, just look at the happy snaps, crowds and facilities. :lol: The comparison between hopscotch and the AFL comp is similar to the comparison between international aussie rules and the RFL though :D :\:

NSW, you provided a fair post, but again it does little to negate my argument.
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King-Eliagh wrote:
Cos if that's not right after the game can you find us some quality snaps of the euro cup final,.
To me, that's after the game all right, they're packing up by the looks.
I'd love to oblige you KE but currently I'm occupied with

Parafeel refuses to acknowledge that AR is played in these countries.
Parafeel refuses to acknowledge that AFCs exist in these countries.
Parafeel refuses to acknowledge that AR is greater than rl in these countries.

One reason I have reframed from pasting pics is that you cannot simply cut & paste .
Another reason I have reframed from pasting pics is that you it's slow.
Another reason I have reframed from pasting pics is that pics don't prove much especially negative threads.

Have you noticed AR followers take pics of the players and not the crowds.
Maybe this is because the game is more interesting than the spectators.
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There's no pics out there cos that put the euor or the international cup in a good light, stop avoiding the real issue you pansy. Seriously, ya pansy, you know its a less than amateur event, stop pretending otherwise and acknowledge the truth, ya pansy. Be a man cos, not a pansy. I acknowledged your 100,000 participants, I'm not a pansy.
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AFL crowds at local games always congregate around the change rooms. This includes the photographer. So it is easy to miss a crowd of about 100 or so. Amateur status is irrelevant. The game is being played and that's all that matters in this argument.
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