Talking Footy

pHyR3 wrote:

that's true, i expect the semis to be competitive. but hey, blowouts can happen at any time. Like the NRL GF a few years ago 40-0 manly vs storm from memory.

the RLWC is about promoting the game internationally which will result in increased funding, a nice 5-10 mil profit, and more awareness/participation, ESPECIALLY in europe which is where it's focused. The next frontier for RL must be NZ and France. Another French team in the SL and another NRL team in NZ within 10 years. The U20s warriors side is overflowing with talent, they've won the comp twice in i think 5 or 6 years (only started a few years ago) and made the GF this year too.

Then we can focus on expanding further into Europe and America maybe with a RLWC in Canada/USA in 10-20 years.

Looking at the pool system for this WC it seems they deliberately placed US in a pool with little competition to make sure they went to semi's. I don't blame them for this as it makes sense to have USA go as far as possible with 350 mil market

actually they booked USA flights home after their group stages assuming they would not make the quarters. And also played the quarter final in wales, hence the poor crowd of ~7k or so.

pHyR3 wrote:

actually they booked USA flights home after their group stages assuming they would not make the quarters. And also played the quarter final in wales, hence the poor crowd of ~7k or so.

I did hear that, but they kept winning, still did better than being in group A where they would have struggled.

A lot closer than I thought, I honestly was worried Australia might put 80-90-100+ against them.

They can be proud of what they done, now it's time for the warring parties in the US to get together and sort their differences out, the United Sates now has an opportunity to qualify each time the 4 nations are held in the Southern Hemisphere if they pull their finger out and get stuck into the hard yakka.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

A lot closer than I thought, I honestly was worried Australia might put 80-90-100+ against them.

They can be proud of what they done, now it's time for the warring parties in the US to get together and sort their differences out, the United Sates now has an opportunity to qualify each time the 4 nations are held in the Southern Hemisphere if they pull their finger out and get stuck into the hard yakka.

So what do they have to domthat they are not already doing, their league seems to be expanding and doing well, what do they have in the way of juniors?

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showt ... p?t=429067

This is the work just one of the USARL clubs are doing in their region.

Others are following them in the same direction, others are doing their own thing.

That's why the two warring bodies need to get together, at the moment, you have some clubs teaching RL in schools (full contact) while clubs from the other comp are developing tag Rugby". Madness!

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showt ... p?t=429067

This is the work just one of the USARL clubs are doing in their region.

Others are following them in the same direction, others are doing their own thing.

That's why the two warring bodies need to get together, at the moment, you have some clubs teaching RL in schools (full contact) while clubs from the other comp are developing tag Rugby". Madness!

While school programs are great I think sometimes we focus too much on schools for not a great deal of benefit, IMO junior club's are the best platform with a senior club they can progress into. Having lived in country areas the amount of people that are imvolved becomes self forfilling in that the kids take on their parents passion through association. Have many times said that clubs actually generate more involvement in sport - where as schools can often present just another subject that the kids quickley forget because their parents arnt involved. Have a NZ friend who grew up on rugby, he follows Richmond passionately now because his son did Auskick (club run) and progressed into the club - he became a commitee member and team manager. School kid parents dont seem to take on that sort of commitment. Just my humble opinion.

Swans, you'll find that in America it's the other way around. Every major sport over there relies on the college level for progress and that comes down through the schools. If you don't play for your school you won't get noticed at elite level. Very different to Australia where it's the club and community that makes the game tick.

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Swans, you'll find that in America it's the other way around. Every major sport over there relies on the college level for progress and that comes down through the schools. If you don't play for your school you won't get noticed at elite level. Very different to Australia where it's the club and community that makes the game tick.

I know what you mean but isn't that best selling point for any game trying to promote itself in America - what I mean is they have no real after school amature comps or sports club association - it's either the main league or the minor leagues - it may be the best selling point with families who wouldn't get noticed for main stream sports because their playing a different sport - just look at X games and those type sports(skate boarding, bmx etc) they grew out of the fact that kids don't sit there glued to a TV and were not subjects at schools - if you give a family orientated environment it may be the best promotion for a sport.

Nothing wrong with trying to do both, sports in Aus have community/social clubs as well as school tournaments.

Swans4ever wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Swans, you'll find that in America it's the other way around. Every major sport over there relies on the college level for progress and that comes down through the schools. If you don't play for your school you won't get noticed at elite level. Very different to Australia where it's the club and community that makes the game tick.

I know what you mean but isn't that best selling point for any game trying to promote itself in America - what I mean is they have no real after school amature comps or sports club association - it's either the main league or the minor leagues - it may be the best selling point with families who wouldn't get noticed for main stream sports because their playing a different sport - just look at X games and those type sports(skate boarding, bmx etc) they grew out of the fact that kids don't sit there glued to a TV and were not subjects at schools - if you give a family orientated environment it may be the best promotion for a sport.

I would call X Games a bad example really, because that's not a team sport. It's an individual thing. That sort of stuff isn't encouraged at school like being a part of team is. And it's extreme as well which makes it far from family orientated as such. America runs on it's hip pocket even in sport and they jumped on the X Games late because it was popular and promoters saw dollar signs behind it. Schools don't like it. They don't like MMA and ultimate fighting either. Some might do boxing but only because it's an Olympic sport. Other individual sports that schools like are Olympic sports (track & field, swimming, tennis etc etc).

I don't think America understands family orientated environment. They have the old fashioned view of school playing that role.

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Swans, you'll find that in America it's the other way around. Every major sport over there relies on the college level for progress and that comes down through the schools. If you don't play for your school you won't get noticed at elite level. Very different to Australia where it's the club and community that makes the game tick.

I know what you mean but isn't that best selling point for any game trying to promote itself in America - what I mean is they have no real after school amature comps or sports club association - it's either the main league or the minor leagues - it may be the best selling point with families who wouldn't get noticed for main stream sports because their playing a different sport - just look at X games and those type sports(skate boarding, bmx etc) they grew out of the fact that kids don't sit there glued to a TV and were not subjects at schools - if you give a family orientated environment it may be the best promotion for a sport.

I would call X Games a bad example really, because that's not a team sport. It's an individual thing. That sort of stuff isn't encouraged at school like being a part of team is. And it's extreme as well which makes it far from family orientated as such. America runs on it's hip pocket even in sport and they jumped on the X Games late because it was popular and promoters saw dollar signs behind it. Schools don't like it. They don't like MMA and ultimate fighting either. Some might do boxing but only because it's an Olympic sport. Other individual sports that schools like are Olympic sports (track & field, swimming, tennis etc etc).

I don't think America understands family orientated environment. They have the old fashioned view of school playing that role.

Agreed just threw it up as an example of a sport that has profited because there isn't organised sport outside of school - Dosent soccer have weekend team comps not aligned with schools - which forced schools to adopt sport down the track. I think the term soccer mum came about because of a lack of traditional indigenous competition? Anyway IMO once you let others dictate how a sport is taught they can sometimes do more harm than good. I played soccer, RU and RL at school as back then there was no AF at school - but I played AF on weekends and always loved it more.

We didn't have an AFL oval at my school, so the predominant sports were soccer and hockey - and a hybrid game called speedball which I enjoyed. A variation on Gaelic footy I think. I played club footy though like you and yeah it was better. Would hate to play sport in America.

Agreed