Talking Footy

Beaussie wrote:

As the title of this thread suggest, it's Football TV ratings. Interpret that as being tv ratings for all the football codes Dogs.

So is ozTAM the only figure that you use across the codes to determine the most viewed program. You have to say there is something or the whole thread is floored as there is no debate as there is no figures to back anyone up. You started with ozTAM, so is that it in your opinion.

One could suggest Soccer and Union fans have no place in this debate considering their abysmal tv ratings and limited appeal to the Australian public via PayTV generally.

Personally, (like most other Australian tv ratings sites I might add) I only take the OzTAM figures seriously as they are the only respectable measurement of tv ratings in this country and provide tv ratings for all the major capital cities in this country. Unlike RegionalTAM, huge parts of the country aren't left unaccounted for, resulting in others coming up with false assumptions about the ratings appeal of particular programming. Besides that, and most importantly I would suggest, the broadcasters and media buyers who bid for sports rights, only consider the OzTAM figures. I know you don't like that reality but that's the way it has always been. It will not be changing anytime soon I might add.

Beaussie wrote:

Unlike RegionalTAM, huge parts of the country aren't left unaccounted for.... .

Your so full of shit

Maybe one day you'll come up with some proof but I shant be holding my breathe.

Beaussie wrote:

One could suggest Soccer and Union fans have no place in this debate considering their abysmal tv ratings and limited appeal to the Australian public via PayTV generally.

Personally, (like most other Australian tv ratings sites I might add) I only take the OzTAM figures seriously as they are the only respectable measurement of tv ratings in this country and provide tv ratings for all the major capital cities in this country. Unlike RegionalTAM, huge parts of the country aren't left unaccounted for, resulting in others coming up with false assumptions about the ratings appeal of particular programming. Besides that, and most importantly I would suggest, the broadcasters and media buyers who bid for sports rights, only consider the OzTAM figures. I know you don't like that reality but that's the way it has always been. It will not be changing anytime soon I might add.

OK, if I go with what you are saying, then you are suggesting that the whole countries ratings should be based upon ozTAM (I don't agree this is correct). Then I say that is AFL bias and why.

If you are suggesting that these figures should be used to represent what the nation is watching you are kidding yourself.

There are 22,110,280 people in Australia when I leave out NT and any other territories people. It is only 235,000 people and makes minimal difference to the equation. I have added ACT to NRL and TAS to AFL.

Based upon this there are 55% or 12,114,074 tv viewers in NSW, QLD and ACT and 45% or 9,996,206 tv viewers in VIC, SA, TAS and WA
ozTAM panel for each one of the 5 metropolitan markets, comprising a total of 3035 homes (Sydney 765, Melbourne 705, Brisbane 615, Adelaide 475 and Perth 475) that are used to determine what is viewed by ozTAM.

This in mind, 2 cities dominated by NRL have 45% or 1380 homes and 3 AFL dominated cities have 55% or 1655 homes doing the counts.

So 55% of the people who define what is watched under your model, only represent 45% of the viewing audience in most of Australia. That is a 10% swing or 2,211,028 inflated viewings in favour of AFL based states. You guys are worried about so called double ups or manipulation of which both of these items could be favouring either NRL or AFL. Given there are more ozTAM viewers than the risk is again on the AFL based viewers as there is more of them.

Massive flaw in your post Dogs is you assume the entire population of NSW and QLD is passionate about Rugby League. Look at the NRL average crowd of 16k drawn from those massive numbers you present and one realizes how ridiculous your post above really is.

pussycat wrote:

Beaussie wrote:

Unlike RegionalTAM, huge parts of the country aren't left unaccounted for.... .

Your so full of ****

Maybe one day you'll come up with some proof but I shant be holding my breathe.

How can someone fucking prove that something isn't there, Kitten?? YOU fucking prove that the whole regional area is counted! Until then, you're the one full of shit!!

Dogs wrote:

Onions wrote:

Dogs wrote:

Can you please confirm, is this thread purely NRL tv viewers v AFL viewer numbers, I say this as you AFL boys keep changing the goal posts?

If so when I get a chance, I will update some interesting figures. Onion please confirm if I am correct that the only figures you want to talk about is ozTAM 5 city counts?

I'd talk about ALL the ******* figures - if they existed!! They don't and that's the ******* point as well as the double counts being done on the ******* overlap that you refuse to admit happens!

Again avoiding the question.

Try I will try again. What figures or facts for the purpose of this thread are you suggesting we use. If you say there are none, then you are contricting your AFL buddy, Beaussie who started this blog with the figures from ozTAm to proove that AFL is watch more than NRL and you seem to be pretty supportive all through this thread on everything Beaussie says.

He's talking about OzTam only. He fucking openly says that it's metro only, and on that AFL is winning on the nationwide count! Fucking counter that for a start! Then fuck wits like you try to play the regional card to swing the count back NRL's way, only to fail to take into fucking account the double counts on the overlaps AND (like Beaussie said) the amount of people not being taken into account AT ALL!!

And when did this become a fucking blog all of a sudden?

Onions wrote:

How can someone ******* prove that something isn't there, Kitten?? YOU ******* prove that the whole regional area is counted! Until then, you're the one full of ****!!

If Beau is going to make Ridiculous sweeping statements then it's he needs to be able to back that up.


It is well documented what regions are surveyed, and the only one not mentioned is regional SA. And it would be a logical assumption to think the only reason they dont do that area is because they don't need to. The ovelaping signals from Regional Vic & WA along with Metropolitan Adelaide adequately covers that area. - so where are the large chunks that are left not counted???????????????? And what became of the duel counting theory?

He said they weren't fucking counted! YOU say they are, so YOU fucking back it up, merkin!! They DO need to do it if you say they need to do the ones that fucking are! I saw the maps and they don't cover some fucking important areas!! Didn't someone put some numbers up that proved that a large chunk isn't counted?? I know I fucking saw it!

Beaussie wrote:

Massive flaw in your post Dogs is you assume the entire population of NSW and QLD is passionate about Rugby League. Look at the NRL average crowd of 16k drawn from those massive numbers you present and one realizes how ridiculous your post above really is.

Likewise, your not trying to suggest the entire population of VIC, SA, TAS and Perth are AFL.

I'll state it if Beaussie isn't, Puppies! All four states are more AFL than the other two are fucking NRL! By a fucking MILE!!

Onions wrote:

I'll state it if Beaussie isn't, Puppies! All four states are more AFL than the other two are ******* NRL! By a ******* MILE!!

Can you read!!!!!!!, Beaussie stated that not all people in NSW and QLD are NRL fans, which I can accept. But you guys need to accept the that fact that not all VIC, SA, TAS and WA people are AFL fan.

So, are you still going to stand by you comment that is suggesting every man, women and child in VIC, SA, TAS and WA is a AFL fan.

Get this fucking straight, Puppies. NO STATE IS 100 PERCENT ONE FUCKING SPORT!!!!

Fact is - there are MORE AFL fans in VIC, SA, TAS and WA than there are NRL fans in NSW and QLD! AND there are MORE AFL fans in NSW and QLD than there are NRL fans in VIC, SA, TAS and WA!!

Stick that up your arse and shit it, fuck wit!!

Onions wrote:

Get this ******* straight, Puppies. NO STATE IS 100 PERCENT ONE ******* SPORT!!!!

Fact is - there are MORE AFL fans in VIC, SA, TAS and WA than there are NRL fans in NSW and QLD! AND there are MORE AFL fans in NSW and QLD than there are NRL fans in VIC, SA, TAS and WA!!

Stick that up your arse and **** it, **** wit!!

Like normal, you back it up with plenty of supporting evidence.

Well done knob-jockey.

LOOK AT THE FUCKING CROWD NUMBERS!! And the number of fucking clubs outside of the top level!

Who's the fucking knob jockey now?