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Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:23 pm
by Terry
Speed is kinda irrelevant in fumbleball. Fumblehouse put a 10m rule in, now a 15m rule, that you have to pass, kick or bounce the ball after that amount of running. That means you can never hit top speed in the fumbling game. They did that to make the game easier on the poor feeble cricketers who the game was invented for.
It means that the contact is less physical and the game is slowed down so that the less athletically gifted can still play at the top level. That's the beauty of fumbleball - it's so damn easy to play anyone can do it.
So the speed of a fumbler doesn't really matter anyway.
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:28 pm
by NlolRL
Terry wrote:Speed is kinda irrelevant in fumbleball. Fumblehouse put a 10m rule in, now a 15m rule, that you have to pass, kick or bounce the ball after that amount of running. That means you can never hit top speed in the fumbling game. They did that to make the game easier on the poor feeble cricketers who the game was invented for.
It means that the contact is less physical and the game is slowed down so that the less athletically gifted can still play at the top level. That's the beauty of fumbleball - it's so damn easy to play anyone can do it.
So the speed of a fumbler doesn't really matter anyway.
you're completely clueless. the most talented players can bounce the ball at top pace

Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:33 pm
by Terry
NlolRL wrote:Terry wrote:Speed is kinda irrelevant in fumbleball. Fumblehouse put a 10m rule in, now a 15m rule, that you have to pass, kick or bounce the ball after that amount of running. That means you can never hit top speed in the fumbling game. They did that to make the game easier on the poor feeble cricketers who the game was invented for.
It means that the contact is less physical and the game is slowed down so that the less athletically gifted can still play at the top level. That's the beauty of fumbleball - it's so damn easy to play anyone can do it.
So the speed of a fumbler doesn't really matter anyway.
you're completely clueless. the most talented players can bounce the ball at top pace

That's gotta go down as the dumbest statement of the millennium lololololololol what a dill. Get a fumbler to run 100m and time him. Then get him to run 100m and bounce the ball every 15m and time him - the outcome is self evident lolololololololol fair dinkum how stupid can a fumbler be lolololoooll.
Geez these fumblers are good for a laugh.....it's better than watching a Monty Pythons movie lololololololoololol
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:39 pm
by NlolRL
Terry wrote:NlolRL wrote:Terry wrote:Speed is kinda irrelevant in fumbleball. Fumblehouse put a 10m rule in, now a 15m rule, that you have to pass, kick or bounce the ball after that amount of running. That means you can never hit top speed in the fumbling game. They did that to make the game easier on the poor feeble cricketers who the game was invented for.
It means that the contact is less physical and the game is slowed down so that the less athletically gifted can still play at the top level. That's the beauty of fumbleball - it's so damn easy to play anyone can do it.
So the speed of a fumbler doesn't really matter anyway.
you're completely clueless. the most talented players can bounce the ball at top pace

That's gotta go down as the dumbest statement of the millennium lololololololol what a dill. Get a fumbler to run 100m and time him. Then get him to run 100m and bounce the ball every 15m and time him - the outcome is self evident lolololololololol fair dinkum how stupid can a fumbler be lolololoooll.
Geez these fumblers are good for a laugh.....it's better than watching a Monty Pythons movie lololololololoololol
the best players can run at full pace while bouncing the ball. You may not believe it but its true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiXqXMAnd2w
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:39 pm
by Fred
AFLcrap1 wrote:Lol so you ignored KEs last post that smashed your argument .
1 point
No. Dont think i did?
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:52 pm
by Fred
Okay had a flick through the article. Roberts not even the fastest. Shirvo has a guess of what his time would be based on his 14 year old time of over 11 seconds. He fails to take in the greater masd he would have put in for rl. He has no official times i think... just spoke to guys at training and who know him. Given ke has already mocked a tean mate reporting on nic nats gps time i assume he will also be critical of shirvo asking around. Again, he thinks roberts runs faster?
The other blokes listed under him do alright.
As for nic nat. I will explain again. He was measured by gps at training going something around 36 kph. What does that break down to over 100. Now bolt they day averages 37.something however here is the kicker.. his peak over 100 was reported to be 45kph or abouts. As bolt is a slow starter it is this burst that likely sees him finish over the top of others.
Hope that helps you both.
Any actual times for roberts by the way aoart from the 11plus he recorded ?
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:02 pm
by Terry
It doesn't really matter Freddy. Speed doesn't matter in fumbleball. That part of the game was taken out to make it easier to play. No one ever gets up to top speed in the FFL as you have to kick, pass or bounce the ball every 15m. Any argument over who is the fastest just doesn't mean anything.
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:19 pm
by NlolRL
Terry wrote:It doesn't really matter Freddy. Speed doesn't matter in fumbleball. That part of the game was taken out to make it easier to play. No one ever gets up to top speed in the FFL as you have to kick, pass or bounce the ball every 15m. Any argument over who is the fastest just doesn't mean anything.
ok, lets unpack another of your stupid arguments. If bouncing the ball slows a player down why arent they repeatedly caught by players chasing them who dont have the ball? Jetta's video is a perfect example, as is the video of Jetta outrunning Rioli in the 2014 GF. Fact is the best players can and do run full pace while bouncing the ball. But as a RL fan I can understand why any ball skill seems difficult to you
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:34 pm
by Fred
Terry wrote:It doesn't really matter Freddy. Speed doesn't matter in fumbleball. That part of the game was taken out to make it easier to play. No one ever gets up to top speed in the FFL as you have to kick, pass or bounce the ball every 15m. Any argument over who is the fastest just doesn't mean anything.
So you are saying AFL is a totally different game to rl so we really should not try to compare. I think you may be on to something there Tezza. And maybe some like what AFL has to offer and others like wgat rl has to offer... some may even like soccer as that is different again. And hey, some may like the variety of all these different game. Yes, you may be onto something.
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:43 pm
by Terry
NlolRL wrote:Terry wrote:It doesn't really matter Freddy. Speed doesn't matter in fumbleball. That part of the game was taken out to make it easier to play. No one ever gets up to top speed in the FFL as you have to kick, pass or bounce the ball every 15m. Any argument over who is the fastest just doesn't mean anything.
ok, lets unpack another of your stupid arguments. If bouncing the ball slows a player down why arent they repeatedly caught by players chasing them who dont have the ball? Jetta's video is a perfect example, as is the video of Jetta outrunning Rioli in the 2014 GF. Fact is the best players can and do run full pace while bouncing the ball. But as a RL fan I can understand why any ball skill seems difficult to you
Lets unpack another of your stupid rebuttals lololololol. If you really think a fumbler can run a flat 100 m in the same time as running it whilst bouncing the ball every 15 m you probably also think the FFL won this years ratings battle even though RL had 8 million more viewers. OH WAIT...... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Pal, how many times do the fumblers actually run more than 15m in a game any way??? I'll answer for ya.......single figures. You can't hit top pace in 15m.......you can never hit top pace when you have to kick, pass or bounce the ball every 15m. Speed has been taken out of the fumbling game ......essentially to dumb it down and make it easy to play.
Ok.....you've been unpacked...........lolololololololol
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:08 pm
by AFLcrap1
They're a SPECIAL breed aren't they
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:09 pm
by AFLcrap1
King-Eliagh wrote:Ah bup! Lets get things straight here freddie me boy. Shirvington's analysis suggests Roberts 100metre time would be easily BELOW 10.7 seconds.
Read the link again dummy.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pre ... 5b97df7b8c
And Ah bup!!

again, lets be straight up. I was saying thats the best we got for 2016. And then you come on in and provide a few names of AFL players from years back who barely played any games.
So I'm getting a bit tired now. So I'm gunna smack you down one last time
2016 - Rugby League has the fastest linked reference so far put forward on this forum. James Roberts sub 10.7 seconds and Korobeite 10.7seconds.
Therefore if we go on CURRENT players 'Rugby Leagues quickest are too fast for AFL. Point and winner
Now lets go on the past and give you the final thrashing you deserve!

I know I know, its been a torturous 6 pages for you lads and I've really enjoyed it but there comes a time when you just gotta bring down the hammer fist.
This link provides times
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/keep ... 5925833380
Shane Whereat, who was a professional sprinter when signed by a Roosters scout in 1993. His best time for 100m was 10.05.
Whereat played 73 games in the NRL. Was a pleasure to watch him fly.
And if we wanna take it back back in time...
Ask anyone who watched rugby league in the '60s to name the fastest man in footy and they'll say Irvine like a shot. In 1961 the man who scored 200 tries for Norths and Manly ran in a specially arranged event in an attempt to break the professional 100yd world record of 9.3sec. He equalled it.
Irvine played 236 gamesWorld record equalling eh?

Any AFL players been able to do that??
And if we wanna add players who "didnt really make the grade", or for example pretty much all of the players Freddie has listed

lets throw in an old mate of mine Jovan
His namesake Joven Clarke was ranked No.1 100m sprinter aged under 20 when he made his debut for the Rabbitohs in 2002, with a best time of 10.49.
So the evidence is piling up now. I havent even added in a bunch of other RL flyers yet.

It's pretty devastatingly against the AFL quicks.
So far its RL winning the current and leading the past flyers by a country mile.
Tap out time me thinks Freddie? Wookster?
Yours in leadership,
KING

Fred
No you didn't address this post .
You've run from it because it destroys all the pathetic arguments you've put up
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:57 pm
by NlolRL
Terry wrote:
Lets unpack another of your stupid rebuttals lololololol. If you really think a fumbler can run a flat 100 m in the same time as running it whilst bouncing the ball every 15 m you probably also think the FFL won this years ratings battle even though RL had 8 million more viewers. OH WAIT...... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Pal, how many times do the fumblers actually run more than 15m in a game any way??? I'll answer for ya.......single figures. You can't hit top pace in 15m.......you can never hit top pace when you have to kick, pass or bounce the ball every 15m. Speed has been taken out of the fumbling game ......essentially to dumb it down and make it easy to play.
Ok.....you've been unpacked...........lolololololololol
Yes, the top AFL players can run just as fast while bouncing the ball. I showed a video demonstrating it. I told you that players without the ball cant magically catch the player with the ball because they need to bounce it. You ignore clear evidence.
And you ask how many times do AFL players run flat out in a game....
you realise with such a large ground the players are regularly either sprinting to a position to get the ball, or sprinting to defend a player. It's not only about the ball. I guarantee there is far more sprinting in the AFL than RL.
Youre a complete moron
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:15 pm
by Terry
NlolRL wrote:Terry wrote:
Lets unpack another of your stupid rebuttals lololololol. If you really think a fumbler can run a flat 100 m in the same time as running it whilst bouncing the ball every 15 m you probably also think the FFL won this years ratings battle even though RL had 8 million more viewers. OH WAIT...... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Pal, how many times do the fumblers actually run more than 15m in a game any way??? I'll answer for ya.......single figures. You can't hit top pace in 15m.......you can never hit top pace when you have to kick, pass or bounce the ball every 15m. Speed has been taken out of the fumbling game ......essentially to dumb it down and make it easy to play.
Ok.....you've been unpacked...........lolololololololol
Yes, the top AFL players can run just as fast while bouncing the ball. I showed a video demonstrating it. I told you that players without the ball cant magically catch the player with the ball because they need to bounce it. You ignore clear evidence.
And you ask how many times do AFL players run flat out in a game....
you realise with such a large ground the players are regularly either sprinting to a position to get the ball, or sprinting to defend a player. It's not only about the ball. I guarantee there is far more sprinting in the AFL than RL.
Youre a complete moron
Pal, the advantage I have over you is I actually played FFL for many years, in fact I was a star. So from my informed position I can tell you that you haven't got a clue. In the FFL you sprint hard for a few metres, that's it....you then come to a fullstop usually because that rolling, fumbling, stumbling muck of a thing comes into play. You know - that ugly ball on the ground rabble. No one sprints long distance's in the FFL. End of story really.
In the Rugby codes and soccer you actually go at full tilt for big metres and hit top pace regularly. In the FFL speed has been taken out to protect the many non athletes that play the game.
Re: Rugby Leagues quickest too fast for AFL.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:40 pm
by NlolRL
Terry wrote:
Pal, the advantage I have over you is I actually played FFL for many years, in fact I was a star. So from my informed position I can tell you that you haven't got a clue. In the FFL you sprint hard for a few metres, that's it....you then come to a fullstop usually because that rolling, fumbling, stumbling muck of a thing comes into play. You know - that ugly ball on the ground rabble. No one sprints long distance's in the FFL. End of story really.
In the Rugby codes and soccer you actually go at full tilt for big metres and hit top pace regularly. In the FFL speed has been taken out to protect the many non athletes that play the game.
what the hell is FFL?
If youre claiming you have played Aussie rules and that is proof that theres no sprinting youre dumber than I thought. You only have to look at any AFL game to see the amount of sprinting every player does. Far more than in RL. This is even more prevalent in the elite leagues like the AFL. SO unless youve played in these leagues your experience means nothing
