Talking Footy

Like I said above I am happy to include SOO in the accumulative ratings. This doesn't bother me one bit. Im also happy to look at the NRL season only V the AFL season only (no preseason or rep games). I dont think it really matters either way you look at it. Lets face it some on this site are happy to only look at PTV results and FTA metro results and not when possilbe combine them. We all use or exclude figures to suit our own arguments.

SOO is the NRL and fortunately the majority of Australia understands that. As for this "we choose to ignore the regionals" this tired and wrong. Repucom publishes the report used by the AFL on TV ratings. Repucom uses the TV data for everyone which is collected for everyone. The only reason some of the regional data is not used on a weekly basis is because the progames get split up and bought by stations who take product from various networks. The weekly ratings are trying to see essentially how the networks are going. These "unused" weekly ratings are then used by companies like Repucom to see how individual programmes went eg different codes of football. This myth of the unrepresented AFL areas is just that a myth.

Wrong! And I lost the link that proved it. Mildura is not considered and neither is Broken Hill for starters! A large section of western Queensland isn't either! And almost the whole of regional SA misses out also! The only parts that don't are the one that OzTam reaches because they can pick up Adelaide TV signals (ie Southern Yorke Peninsula and Fleurieu Peninsula).

SOO is ARLC, not NRL. Get that through your thick skull because it's true. Like I said before NSW don't play against the Storm or the Broncos and Queensland don't play against the Raiders or the Eels. The NRL is a competition and nothing more than that.

Rugby League is united under one body - The ARL commission. The name NRL/organisation , National or more correctly (News limited Rugby League) no longer exists.

Yes it does. It's the name of the competition that is played weekly. The first sentence is right and that's who runs the SOO and other rep games.

enarelle wrote:

SOO is the NRL and fortunately the majority of Australia understands that. As for this "we choose to ignore the regionals" this tired and wrong. Repucom publishes the report used by the AFL on TV ratings. Repucom uses the TV data for everyone which is collected for everyone. The only reason some of the regional data is not used on a weekly basis is because the progames get split up and bought by stations who take product from various networks. The weekly ratings are trying to see essentially how the networks are going. These "unused" weekly ratings are then used by companies like Repucom to see how individual programmes went eg different codes of football. This myth of the unrepresented AFL areas is just that a myth.

http://www.regionaltvmarketing.com.au/regional-tv/map

The regionals known as diary are not counted until the end of the year when they are tallied. However I could make an argument that they are essentially split evenly between RL and Aussie rules. Some people when looking at regionals only show the NSW and Qld markets, but that is a different story.

TLPG wrote:

Yes it does. It's the name of the competition that is played weekly. The first sentence is right and that's who runs the SOO and other rep games.

Using your logic TLPG, flawed as it may be. Why isnt the NZ Warriors nubers counted, there part of the NRL?

pussycat wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Yes it does. It's the name of the competition that is played weekly. The first sentence is right and that's who runs the SOO and other rep games.

Using your logic TLPG, flawed as it may be. Why isnt the NZ Warriors nubers counted, there part of the NRL?

They dont want to count NZ ratings. 12million last year and 30% up this year, that will be close to 17million in NZ for 2012. =D>

Warriors games on Skysports NZ averging 125,000 2012. :D

TLPG wrote:

Wrong! And I lost the link that proved it. Mildura is not considered and neither is Broken Hill for starters! A large section of western Queensland isn't either! And almost the whole of regional SA misses out also! The only parts that don't are the one that OzTam reaches because they can pick up Adelaide TV signals (ie Southern Yorke Peninsula and Fleurieu Peninsula).

SOO is ARLC, not NRL. Get that through your thick skull because it's true. Like I said before NSW don't play against the Storm or the Broncos and Queensland don't play against the Raiders or the Eels. The NRL is a competition and nothing more than that.

There are cities with there 10-25K population that are outside the catchment areas , thats not In dispute. But who is the most affected? How is it so hard for you to understand that the NRL wth more than double the rural population of the AFL are going are going to be worse affected.

A tin pot town like Broken Hill, with its less than 20k population (pretty much evenly divided, I might ad), what does it mean in the scheme of things? The NRL can boast the 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th largest regional cities in the country, each with teams in them and each with populations ranging from a quarter of a million to a half a million.

You also seem to forget (or maybe it suits you to forget) that even in your beloved Metro markets there are only about 1 in every 5000 surveyed.

This is off topic but you were speaking of NZ. The Saints (AFL)are looking to play 2 games a year from next year I believe in NZ.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/AFL/more-ne ... 6366114484

It would be interesting to know how much exposure the AFL competition has in NZ at the moment. I would also be interested to know if there are any ratings for the AFL in NZ.

pussycat wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Wrong! And I lost the link that proved it. Mildura is not considered and neither is Broken Hill for starters! A large section of western Queensland isn't either! And almost the whole of regional SA misses out also! The only parts that don't are the one that OzTam reaches because they can pick up Adelaide TV signals (ie Southern Yorke Peninsula and Fleurieu Peninsula).

SOO is ARLC, not NRL. Get that through your thick skull because it's true. Like I said before NSW don't play against the Storm or the Broncos and Queensland don't play against the Raiders or the Eels. The NRL is a competition and nothing more than that.

There are cities with there 10-25K population that are outside the catchment areas , thats not In dispute. But who is the most affected? How is it so hard for you to understand that the NRL wth more than double the rural population of the AFL are going are going to be worse affected.

A tin pot town like Broken Hill, with its less than 20k population (pretty much evenly divided, I might ad), what does it mean in the scheme of things? The NRL can boast the 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th largest regional cities in the country, each with teams in them and each with populations ranging from a quarter of a million to a half a million.

You also seem to forget (or maybe it suits you to forget) that even in your beloved Metro markets there are only about 1 in every 5000 surveyed.

I would dispute that Broken hill is divided evenly. I have never been there however all the research that I have done points to Broken hill being 90% an AFL town.

This is from the Broken hill wiki RL webpage.

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The new competition features clubs from the same areas. A new club was formed before the opening season, the Wilcannia Tigers. The inaugural competition saw a total of 266 registered players across all grades, from under-sixes up. Broken Hill is traditionally dominated by Australian Rules Football.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outback_Rugby_League

The RL league in Brokenhill has folded before and has only recently come back as a competition. Broken hill is close to Adelaide and its TV channels are the same as Adelaide's I believe.

piesman2011 wrote:

This is from the Broken hill wiki RL webpage.

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The new competition features clubs from the same areas. A new club was formed before the opening season, the Wilcannia Tigers. The inaugural competition saw a total of 266 registered players across all grades, from under-sixes up. Broken Hill is traditionally dominated by Australian Rules Football.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outback_Rugby_League

The RL league in Brokenhill has folded before and has only recently come back as a competition. Broken hill is close to Adelaide and its TV channels are the same as Adelaide's I believe.

Well there you go, AFL dominates in the 18K city.

Always enjoy it when the opposition goes the personal attack. NRL stands for National Rugby League not National Rugby League club competition only. Just because the AFL is a club only competition does mean everyone else has to conform to that model.

As for the TV ratings dream on of the mysterious AFL ratings hidden in the desert like the lost tribe of Israel who will suddenly be found to save the day. Just find me a single AFL communique that states all our TV ratings are not being counted or included.

Interesting that you concentrate on Mildura and Broken Hill - and ignore regional SA! Places like Port Lincoln (13,000), Whyalla (24,000), Port Augusta (13,000), Port Pirie (13,000) and Mount Gambier (24,000)! ALL NOT COUNTED!!

NRL stands for the competition only. It ceased to be anything else upon the formation of the ARLC. Besides, prior to that point the ARL ran rep thugby and not NRL. And NZ doesn't count because it's a different country.