Fight Club - Football TV Ratings (AFL vs NRL)

[eelofwest]

Final round 8 Metro FTA and Fox National results

Pies v Cats - 1,182,000
Port v North - 379,000
Hawks v Freo - 209,000
Sydney v Melb - 264,000
Bulldogs v Suns - 162,000
Bombers v Tigers - 916,000
Blues v Crows - 629,000
Lions v GWS - 178,000
WCE v Saints - 364,000

Fox total - 1,612,000
FTA total -2,671,000

Round total - 4,283,000

The 7th of 8 rounds this year to top 4 million. Every round of which beats every other round in every other year before this.

Again from our mate the Wookie on BF! =D>

So thats the wookie's way of saying our ratings are up what a smart guy......

[piesman2011]

I cant assess BF from work. What did the Collingwood V Geelong game rate of foxtel was it 307K?

[Xman]

I cant assess BF from work. What did the Collingwood V Geelong game rate of foxtel was it 307K?

Yep. An amazing result for FN AFL! 1.5m easy.

Our NRL friends seem to think this will happen for their Friday night games if the get simulcasting on foxtel. But clearly it won't. They have already maxed out foxtel subscriptions in nRL states and their FN game is already live and shown at 7.30pm. So whatever audience will now watch FN NRL on foxtel will come straight from their FTA audience, greatly decrease the FTA ratings and producing an identical net number. Neither ch9 or foxtel will pay extra in this scenario.

[pussycat]

The NrL have had the advantage of a longer season, more exclusive games, and rep games, for a number of years now and were perfectly happy to claim victory in the ratings. Now the AFL have a more national game with more teams in each state they will win this years ratings by a heap.

Your blinded by your bias Xman, The AFL has 198 matches in its regular Season, the NRL has 192.

That's the point fool! you've had the advantage of more games for a while. Now it's our turn.

It is? Your turn for what >

The highest rating PTV matches for 2012


NRL Est v Stg ... 390
NRL Cron v Stg … 373
NRL Rd8. Melb V NZ ... 352
NRL Cron v Sths ... 347
NRL Rd1. Pen v Canb … 343
AFL Rd5. Coll v Ess ... 339
NRL Rd1. Canb v Melb … 337
NRL Bris v Warr ... 335
AFL Geel v Haw … 334
NRL Rd5. Man v Pen … 332
AFL R3. Carl v Coll … 329
NRL Rd1. Sths Est … 321
NRL Rd5. Canb v NQ … 317
Nrl Pen v Sts 313
NRL Rd4 West v Canb … 310
NRL Parra v NZ … 307
AFL Coll v StK ... 307
NRL NQ v Newc ... 304
NRL Rd.8 Sths v NQld ... 301
NRL NQ v Pen ... 297
NRL R3. NQ v Parra … 296
NRL NZ v Est ... 291
NRL Newc v Penr ... 291
NRL Rd3. Gcst v Melb … 290
NRL Rd6. Gct v Est … 289
NRL R3. Cron v Manly … 289
NRL Rd 7. Melb. V Canb … 286
NRL R4. Stg v Manly … 283
AFL Rd.5 Frem v Carl ... 282
ANRL R2. Melb v Sths … 279
AFL Rd4. Stk v Free … 271
NRL Rd2. Canb v Stg … 270
AFL Rd1. Haw v Coll … 267
NRL Rd 5. Parr vg Manly … 266
NRL Panth v Storm ... 264
AFL Rd.5 Haw v Syd ... 263
AFL Rd1. Port v Stk … 260
ANRL R7. Man v Gcst … 259
NRL Rd 7 Cron v Parra … 257
AFL StK v Car ... 258
NRL Rd 5. Pen v Cron … 256
AFL Rich v Swans ... 256
AFL Syd v GWS … 251
AFL Col v WstB ... 250

The highest rating FTA matches this year ***(metro only)

AFL Coll v Ess … 1030
NRL Aus v NZ … 1028... *Melb 88K
AFL Car v Coll … 878
AFL Coll v Geel ... 875
AFL Haw v Coll … 806
AFL Rd4. StK v Fre … 781
AFL Ess v W cE ... 763
AFL Free v Carl ... 760
AFL Rich v Car…..756
NRL All Stars … 730
AFL Coll v WB ... 729
NRL Wst v Bris … 721
NRL Parra v Cby ... 719
NRL Stg v West … 715
NRL Newc v Stg … 710
AFL Ess v Rich ... 708
NRL Stg v Newc … 703
NRL Bris v Man ... 698
AFL GWS v Syd …. 689
NRL Manly v Bris
NRL Parr v Penr … 647
AFL Geel v Haw … 635
NRL Cron Melb ... 622
AFL GCT v Ess … 613
NRL Rd1. Parra V Bris … 611
AFL Bris v Carl … 603
NRL Tig v NZ ... 602
AFL Melb v Haw ... 591
AFL WCE v Haw … 586
AFL Stk v Carl ... 585
NRL West v Sou … 580
NRL Rd6. Sou v Cant … 543 ...
AFL Rd 1 Free v Geel …. 542
NRL Rd5. Bris v Stg … 539
NRL Bris v NQ … 534
NRL Parra v West ... 538
AFL Ess v W Cst ... 527
NRL City v Cty … 518
AFL Melb v StK ... 515
NRL Souths v Sts ... 504

[Yahoooo]

Pussycat do you have a list of highest rating matches, PTV and FTA combined?

[pookus]

Here are the numbers as given including formulas stated on this website for regionals(highly dubious)AFL 1.3 NRL 1.6
Culmative audiences AFL(8 rounds)FTA (20,317,000 x 1.3)26,412,000 Avg.825,000
PTV 13,668,000 Avg.189,000
Culmative 40,080,000 Avg.566,660

NRL(10 rounds)FTA(15,284,000x1.6) 24,454,000 Avg.815,000
PTV 13,466,000 Avg.269,000
Culmative 37,920,000 Avg.474,000

Now lets have a look at these numbers the AFL averages more on free to air per game despite playing a saturday game in a dead time slot which will slowly be pushed to monday night The only monday night game on free to air this year was a big ratings winner so this is a monty.On top of that the game is simulcast on Fox surely taking away free to air viewers.You must also take into account the fairness of the free to air distribution.We have a fixed fixture with everyone getting a piece of the pie channel 9 get to pick the eyes out of the NRL another big advantage when it comes to ratings.If the rumor mill is true this will change next year.The AFL is behind on average on PTV but surely this is expected considering fox has owned saturdays for nigh on ten years and was basically useless to AFL fans before this year.Fox has banked on massive growth in AFL regions so this gap will surely close.If you throw the 3 million that will watch origin this week on top of the numbers we have right now your culmative average would still be below AFL(505,000).If we use the averages we have now to calculate the culmative amount (including 9 million for origin) for the home and away season the NRL will fall more than 12 million short.The average will be 566 for AFL 513 for league.This is before we take into account the final series which is always a big win for the AFL.When you add these numbers to all the other numbers that determine the popularity of the game(attendance,membership,revenue etc.)it is quite obvious who is coke and who is pepsi.By the way had to have a laugh at the other clubs getting dirty on the Broncos because there revenue outstrips some sydney clubs by 300% and what was this grand number 38,000,000 per year.If they were in the AFL theyd be one of the poorer clubs.Now thats funny.

[enarelle]

Fox is not a synonym for PAY TV. IF ones wants to talk about PAY TV then one needs to include the AUstar and Optus Vision results. Both of these significantly lift the NRL results. NRL doesn't just win the PAY TV results it bolts in.

OF course one does not expect to see that on this site given NZ numbers are not allowed. Regional s are not allowed etc etc

[piesman2011]

Pookus interesting results. I see now that you calculated regionals. I wasn't sure how you came up with the totals.

[eelofwest]

Fox is not a synonym for PAY TV. IF ones wants to talk about PAY TV then one needs to include the AUstar and Optus Vision results. Both of these significantly lift the NRL results. NRL doesn't just win the PAY TV results it bolts in.

OF course one does not expect to see that on this site given NZ numbers are not allowed. Regional s are not allowed etc etc

Yeah add in the regionals and add in the 12million NZ viewers up %30 this year then its a easy win for NRL and with 1 less FTA game, 1 live fta games compared to 3, 5 Fox games compared to 9 and 1 less game every week.

[pussycat]

Here are the numbers as given including formulas stated on this website for regionals(highly dubious)AFL 1.3 NRL 1.6
Culmative audiences AFL(8 rounds)FTA (20,317,000 x 1.3)26,412,000 Avg.825,000
PTV 13,668,000 Avg.189,000
Culmative 40,080,000 Avg.566,660

NRL(10 rounds)FTA(15,284,000x1.6) 24,454,000 Avg.815,000
PTV 13,466,000 Avg.269,000
Culmative 37,920,000 Avg.474,000

Now lets have a look at these numbers the AFL averages more on free to air per game despite playing a saturday game in a dead time slot which will slowly be pushed to monday night The only monday night game on free to air this year was a big ratings winner so this is a monty.On top of that the game is simulcast on Fox surely taking away free to air viewers.You must also take into account the fairness of the free to air distribution.We have a fixed fixture with everyone getting a piece of the pie channel 9 get to pick the eyes out of the NRL another big advantage when it comes to ratings.If the rumor mill is true this will change next year.The AFL is behind on average on PTV but surely this is expected considering fox has owned saturdays for nigh on ten years and was basically useless to AFL fans before this year.Fox has banked on massive growth in AFL regions so this gap will surely close.If you throw the 3 million that will watch origin this week on top of the numbers we have right now your culmative average would still be below AFL(505,000).If we use the averages we have now to calculate the culmative amount (including 9 million for origin) for the home and away season the NRL will fall more than 12 million short.The average will be 566 for AFL 513 for league.This is before we take into account the final series which is always a big win for the AFL.When you add these numbers to all the other numbers that determine the popularity of the game(attendance,membership,revenue etc.)it is quite obvious who is coke and who is pepsi.By the way had to have a laugh at the other clubs getting dirty on the Broncos because there revenue outstrips some sydney clubs by 300% and what was this grand number 38,000,000 per year.If they were in the AFL theyd be one of the poorer clubs.Now thats funny.

Not according to the paper the other day, it was a farce. The AFL said they wont be staging matches of a Monday again. The AFL have 4 FTA games - 3 Live. The Nrl has 3 FTA games -1 live.

The AFL is not behind on Pay TV , there not even on the same page...

Our revenue is down for a good reason. And now that were no longer controlod by News Limited we will soon pass you in this area.

Ps. Im sure I read the other day that half of your clubs are relying on handouts to survive.

[Xman]

Here are the numbers as given including formulas stated on this website for regionals(highly dubious)AFL 1.3 NRL 1.6
Culmative audiences AFL(8 rounds)FTA (20,317,000 x 1.3)26,412,000 Avg.825,000
PTV 13,668,000 Avg.189,000
Culmative 40,080,000 Avg.566,660

NRL(10 rounds)FTA(15,284,000x1.6) 24,454,000 Avg.815,000
PTV 13,466,000 Avg.269,000
Culmative 37,920,000 Avg.474,000

Now lets have a look at these numbers the AFL averages more on free to air per game despite playing a saturday game in a dead time slot which will slowly be pushed to monday night The only monday night game on free to air this year was a big ratings winner so this is a monty.On top of that the game is simulcast on Fox surely taking away free to air viewers.You must also take into account the fairness of the free to air distribution.We have a fixed fixture with everyone getting a piece of the pie channel 9 get to pick the eyes out of the NRL another big advantage when it comes to ratings.If the rumor mill is true this will change next year.The AFL is behind on average on PTV but surely this is expected considering fox has owned saturdays for nigh on ten years and was basically useless to AFL fans before this year.Fox has banked on massive growth in AFL regions so this gap will surely close.If you throw the 3 million that will watch origin this week on top of the numbers we have right now your culmative average would still be below AFL(505,000).If we use the averages we have now to calculate the culmative amount (including 9 million for origin) for the home and away season the NRL will fall more than 12 million short.The average will be 566 for AFL 513 for league.This is before we take into account the final series which is always a big win for the AFL.When you add these numbers to all the other numbers that determine the popularity of the game(attendance,membership,revenue etc.)it is quite obvious who is coke and who is pepsi.By the way had to have a laugh at the other clubs getting dirty on the Broncos because there revenue outstrips some sydney clubs by 300% and what was this grand number 38,000,000 per year.If they were in the AFL theyd be one of the poorer clubs.Now thats funny.

Not according to the paper the other day, it was a farce. The AFL said they wont be staging matches of a Monday again. The AFL have 4 FTA games - 3 Live. The Nrl has 3 FTA games -1 live.

The AFL is not behind on Pay TV , there not even on the same page...

Our revenue is down for a good reason. And now that were no longer controlod by News Limited we will soon pass you in this area.

Ps. Im sure I read the other day that half of your clubs are relying on handouts to survive.

Wrong. Perth, the AFLs second biggest heartland market do not get 3 live games per week.

The AFLs payTV games are shown concurrently. Adding these together results in a win for the AFL despite lower subscription rates in AFL states.

[eelofwest]

Here are the numbers as given including formulas stated on this website for regionals(highly dubious)AFL 1.3 NRL 1.6
Culmative audiences AFL(8 rounds)FTA (20,317,000 x 1.3)26,412,000 Avg.825,000
PTV 13,668,000 Avg.189,000
Culmative 40,080,000 Avg.566,660

NRL(10 rounds)FTA(15,284,000x1.6) 24,454,000 Avg.815,000
PTV 13,466,000 Avg.269,000
Culmative 37,920,000 Avg.474,000

Now lets have a look at these numbers the AFL averages more on free to air per game despite playing a saturday game in a dead time slot which will slowly be pushed to monday night The only monday night game on free to air this year was a big ratings winner so this is a monty.On top of that the game is simulcast on Fox surely taking away free to air viewers.You must also take into account the fairness of the free to air distribution.We have a fixed fixture with everyone getting a piece of the pie channel 9 get to pick the eyes out of the NRL another big advantage when it comes to ratings.If the rumor mill is true this will change next year.The AFL is behind on average on PTV but surely this is expected considering fox has owned saturdays for nigh on ten years and was basically useless to AFL fans before this year.Fox has banked on massive growth in AFL regions so this gap will surely close.If you throw the 3 million that will watch origin this week on top of the numbers we have right now your culmative average would still be below AFL(505,000).If we use the averages we have now to calculate the culmative amount (including 9 million for origin) for the home and away season the NRL will fall more than 12 million short.The average will be 566 for AFL 513 for league.This is before we take into account the final series which is always a big win for the AFL.When you add these numbers to all the other numbers that determine the popularity of the game(attendance,membership,revenue etc.)it is quite obvious who is coke and who is pepsi.By the way had to have a laugh at the other clubs getting dirty on the Broncos because there revenue outstrips some sydney clubs by 300% and what was this grand number 38,000,000 per year.If they were in the AFL theyd be one of the poorer clubs.Now thats funny.

Not according to the paper the other day, it was a farce. The AFL said they wont be staging matches of a Monday again. The AFL have 4 FTA games - 3 Live. The Nrl has 3 FTA games -1 live.

The AFL is not behind on Pay TV , there not even on the same page...

Our revenue is down for a good reason. And now that were no longer controlod by News Limited we will soon pass you in this area.

Ps. Im sure I read the other day that half of your clubs are relying on handouts to survive.

One thing i notice about these AFL fans is that they fail to take into account that they have more coverage this year and a extra game. This is the sole reason for the jump in ratings 2012. But these AFL bloggers would like to be one eyed and ignore these facts and say that Australia is falling in love with the australian game.
While the NRL ratings are up 6.5% and the ratings in NZ are up %30 with no extra coverage.

Pussycat the nrl has 14 of the 16 NRL clubs operating at a slight loss this year.
The AFL have some big problems on thier hands, as you said half the clubs in the AFL are operating at a loss even Swans had to sell assests to come out infront last year, some of thier melbourne clubs are operating at a loss equel to our salery cap 4 million + , now that has to be a worry for the AFL. I dont see these clubs around in future u just cant keep proping these clubs up with that sort of money.

[Xman]

Here are the numbers as given including formulas stated on this website for regionals(highly dubious)AFL 1.3 NRL 1.6
Culmative audiences AFL(8 rounds)FTA (20,317,000 x 1.3)26,412,000 Avg.825,000
PTV 13,668,000 Avg.189,000
Culmative 40,080,000 Avg.566,660

NRL(10 rounds)FTA(15,284,000x1.6) 24,454,000 Avg.815,000
PTV 13,466,000 Avg.269,000
Culmative 37,920,000 Avg.474,000

Now lets have a look at these numbers the AFL averages more on free to air per game despite playing a saturday game in a dead time slot which will slowly be pushed to monday night The only monday night game on free to air this year was a big ratings winner so this is a monty.On top of that the game is simulcast on Fox surely taking away free to air viewers.You must also take into account the fairness of the free to air distribution.We have a fixed fixture with everyone getting a piece of the pie channel 9 get to pick the eyes out of the NRL another big advantage when it comes to ratings.If the rumor mill is true this will change next year.The AFL is behind on average on PTV but surely this is expected considering fox has owned saturdays for nigh on ten years and was basically useless to AFL fans before this year.Fox has banked on massive growth in AFL regions so this gap will surely close.If you throw the 3 million that will watch origin this week on top of the numbers we have right now your culmative average would still be below AFL(505,000).If we use the averages we have now to calculate the culmative amount (including 9 million for origin) for the home and away season the NRL will fall more than 12 million short.The average will be 566 for AFL 513 for league.This is before we take into account the final series which is always a big win for the AFL.When you add these numbers to all the other numbers that determine the popularity of the game(attendance,membership,revenue etc.)it is quite obvious who is coke and who is pepsi.By the way had to have a laugh at the other clubs getting dirty on the Broncos because there revenue outstrips some sydney clubs by 300% and what was this grand number 38,000,000 per year.If they were in the AFL theyd be one of the poorer clubs.Now thats funny.

Not according to the paper the other day, it was a farce. The AFL said they wont be staging matches of a Monday again. The AFL have 4 FTA games - 3 Live. The Nrl has 3 FTA games -1 live.

The AFL is not behind on Pay TV , there not even on the same page...

Our revenue is down for a good reason. And now that were no longer controlod by News Limited we will soon pass you in this area.

Ps. Im sure I read the other day that half of your clubs are relying on handouts to survive.

One thing i notice about these AFL fans is that they fail to take into account that they have more coverage this year and a extra game. This is the sole reason for the jump in ratings 2012. But these AFL bloggers would like to be one eyed and ignore these facts and say that Australia is falling in love with the australian game.
While the NRL ratings are up 6.5% and the ratings in NZ are up %30 with no extra coverage.

Pussycat the nrl has 14 of the 16 NRL clubs operating at a slight loss this year.
The AFL have some big problems on thier hands, as you said half the clubs in the AFL are operating at a loss even Swans had to sell assests to come out infront last year, some of thier melbourne clubs are operating at a loss equel to our salery cap 4 million + , now that has to be a worry for the AFL. I dont see these clubs around in future u just cant keep proping these clubs up with that sort of money.

How hypocritical are you!

The NRL now have national coverage this year. 3 FTA games shown into AFL state, averaging say 120k all up per round is an increase in ratings of 4.8% on 2.5million. Add to this Beaussie has included foxtel replays this year for the first time.

So in effect the average FTa audience for the NRL has probably gone down!

The AFL have dramatically increased their FTA ratings despite the same number of game being shown each week and now simulcast on foxtel.

All but one NRL club makes a loss each year. The only club making a profit has a heartland audience of 2 million on their own, the most of any club by a country mile. some NRL clubs can't even afford a CEO!

Most AFL clubs have an annual revenue of over 35million. That's more than every NRL club where the average is around 15million. The only reason some get assistance is to even up the revenue **** clubs. It has nothing to do with survival.

[eelofwest]

Not according to the paper the other day, it was a farce. The AFL said they wont be staging matches of a Monday again. The AFL have 4 FTA games - 3 Live. The Nrl has 3 FTA games -1 live.

The AFL is not behind on Pay TV , there not even on the same page...

Our revenue is down for a good reason. And now that were no longer controlod by News Limited we will soon pass you in this area.

Ps. Im sure I read the other day that half of your clubs are relying on handouts to survive.

One thing i notice about these AFL fans is that they fail to take into account that they have more coverage this year and a extra game. This is the sole reason for the jump in ratings 2012. But these AFL bloggers would like to be one eyed and ignore these facts and say that Australia is falling in love with the australian game.
While the NRL ratings are up 6.5% and the ratings in NZ are up %30 with no extra coverage.

Pussycat the nrl has 14 of the 16 NRL clubs operating at a slight loss this year.
The AFL have some big problems on thier hands, as you said half the clubs in the AFL are operating at a loss even Swans had to sell assests to come out infront last year, some of thier melbourne clubs are operating at a loss equel to our salery cap 4 million + , now that has to be a worry for the AFL. I dont see these clubs around in future u just cant keep proping these clubs up with that sort of money.

How hypocritical are you!

The NRL now have national coverage this year. 3 FTA games shown into AFL state, averaging say 120k all up per round is an increase in ratings of 4.8% on 2.5million. Add to this Beaussie has included foxtel replays this year for the first time.

So in effect the average FTa audience for the NRL has probably gone down!

The AFL have dramatically increased their FTA ratings despite the same number of game being shown each week and now simulcast on foxtel.

All but one NRL club makes a loss each year. The only club making a profit has a heartland audience of 2 million on their own, the most of any club by a country mile. some NRL clubs can't even afford a CEO!

Most AFL clubs have an annual revenue of over 35million. That's more than every NRL club where the average is around 15million. The only reason some get assistance is to even up the revenue **** clubs. It has nothing to do with survival.

Wrong again Xman
Our metro is up 6.3%.
NRL Metro only 3 FTA 1 live 2 delayed, 5 games live Fox.

2011 Round 1 = 2,406,000
2012 Round 1 = 3,382,000

2011 Round 2 = 2,269,000
2012 Round 2 = 2,751,000

2011 Round 3 = 2,394,000
2012 Round 3 = 2,773,000

2011 Round 4 = 2,674,000
2012 Round 4 = 2,848,000

2011 Round 5 = 2,357,000
2012 Round 5 = 2,800,000

2011 Round 6 = 2,623,000
2012 Round 6 = 3,289,000

2011 Round 7 = 2,343,000
2012 Round 7 = 2,242,000

2011 Round 8 = 2,029,000
2012 Round 8 = 2,860,000

2011 Round 9 = 923,000
2012 Round 9 = 2,868,000

2011 Round 10 = 2,242,000
2012 Round 10 = 2,969,000

2011 Total = 22,260.000
2012 Total = 28,782.000

That's a 6.3%jump for 2012 with same amount of coverage also does not included NZ Fox ratings witch was over 12million viewers last year, this year NZ fox ratings are up almost 30% on 2011.

[Xman]

Yep, and includes foxtel replays and national FTA coverage for the first time. This would easily account for a small increase.

You claimed there was no change in the coverage. You lied!