Talking Footy

pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:10 pm

This comes from the AFL website.

The AFL told the clubs it recorded a cash surplus in 2021 but had an underlying operating loss of $43 million on the year.

Sounds like very reputable people were dealing with here.

the most manipulative
charlatan infested
dodgy
wouldn't trust them as far as one could throw them .. organisation on the planet

they make FIFA look reputable in comparison

Ive literally posted a copy from the AFLs consolidated accounts that says otherwise. Learn to read champ.

be interesting to know the values on the clubs assets up against each other

NRL v AFL

Gone wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:19 am

Ive literally posted a copy from the AFLs consolidated accounts that says otherwise. Learn to read champ.

the aflol themselves ............. said ..... they lost 43 mill

like
they told the press that was the amount
do you think if it was 14 million less they wouldn't have been scccrrreeeaaaammmiinnnggg it from the highest mountain

but
not a whimper ....
so again , 43 mill is the amount
how bout you pull your head out of yr ass & join us in the real world

truthbomber wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:03 pm

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:32 pm

Fred wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:53 pm

So do you think the AFL deal will be maintain the same money difference to that of what the NRL.ARL got ior will the gap grow or become smaller? do we even know what the NRL/ARL deal was?

the AFL signed a 2 year deal extension with new rights 2023 and 2024
NRL have signed a 5 year extension beginning in 2023 and ending in 2027

the deals done between the codes when NRL includes the Dolphins extra money has AFL slightly ahead.

the current negotiation's, who knows...
if the AFL get a better deal than the recent 2 year extension, it will effect the fans, the players will get more money and the fans less FTA

thats actually not correct Leeroy

the covid re negotiated deal kicked in from 2020
a 5 year deal through to 2024 with both Ch 7 & foxtel

the mistake people make on 23/24 is the aflol spin about the amount in those years being 473 mill pa
which it will be
but...

the increase is just the money the voluntarily didn't get from ch 7 in 2020-22
so while it looks good , its just smoke & mirrors

slight of hand
etc

https://mumbrella.com.au/seven-signs-ne ... eal-631000

all explained in that article there

ok great insight was not aware of that

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 pm

be interesting to know the values on the clubs assets up against each other

NRL v AFL

haha
would be an annihilation by the NRL clubs when including their leagues clubs etc

the buildings
the land they're on
the equipment etc in them , holy hell


RL , the most asseted sport in the country

truthbomber wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:02 pm

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 pm

be interesting to know the values on the clubs assets up against each other

NRL v AFL

haha
would be an annihilation by the NRL clubs when including their leagues clubs etc

the buildings
the land they're on
the equipment etc in them , holy hell


RL , the most asseted sport in the country

i would love a real detailed breakdown of each club..

Roosters for example own all this

Waverley Bowling Club, Berkeley Sports, Kingswood Sports Club and Woy Woy Leagues. They also plan to turn North Bondi Golf and Diggers Club into a multi-purpose sports centre.

The centrepiece is a redeveloped Easts Leagues in Bondi Junction. The club has snapped up most of the property on the L-shaped block on the corner of Spring Street and Bronte Road with a long-term plan to turn it into a lucrative high-rise development.

let Alone Canterbury owning LAND in the heart of Liverpool
able to fit a stadium and shopping centre.

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:19 pm

truthbomber wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:02 pm

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 pm

be interesting to know the values on the clubs assets up against each other

NRL v AFL

haha
would be an annihilation by the NRL clubs when including their leagues clubs etc

the buildings
the land they're on
the equipment etc in them , holy hell


RL , the most asseted sport in the country

i would love a real detailed breakdown of each club..

Roosters for example own all this

Waverley Bowling Club, Berkeley Sports, Kingswood Sports Club and Woy Woy Leagues. They also plan to turn North Bondi Golf and Diggers Club into a multi-purpose sports centre.

The centrepiece is a redeveloped Easts Leagues in Bondi Junction. The club has snapped up most of the property on the L-shaped block on the corner of Spring Street and Bronte Road with a long-term plan to turn it into a lucrative high-rise development.

let Alone Canterbury owning LAND in the heart of Liverpool
able to fit a stadium and shopping centre.

The Canberra Raiders operate 5 Leagues clubs and have multiple other properties and businesses. In 2020 they sold a Bunnings store they owned for $56M after buying it for $29M in 2011.

Many other clubs have similar portfolios.

Gone wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:19 am

Ive literally posted a copy from the AFLs consolidated accounts that says otherwise. Learn to read champ.

So your saying they give out 2 reports? which one is the pretend one?

Terry wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:40 pm

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:19 pm

truthbomber wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:02 pm

haha
would be an annihilation by the NRL clubs when including their leagues clubs etc

the buildings
the land they're on
the equipment etc in them , holy hell


RL , the most asseted sport in the country

i would love a real detailed breakdown of each club..

Roosters for example own all this

Waverley Bowling Club, Berkeley Sports, Kingswood Sports Club and Woy Woy Leagues. They also plan to turn North Bondi Golf and Diggers Club into a multi-purpose sports centre.

The centrepiece is a redeveloped Easts Leagues in Bondi Junction. The club has snapped up most of the property on the L-shaped block on the corner of Spring Street and Bronte Road with a long-term plan to turn it into a lucrative high-rise development.

let Alone Canterbury owning LAND in the heart of Liverpool
able to fit a stadium and shopping centre.

The Canberra Raiders operate 5 Leagues clubs and have multiple other properties and businesses. In 2020 they sold a Bunnings store they owned for $56M after buying it for $29M in 2011.

Many other clubs have similar portfolios.

not to mention they own Rugby League Park in Braddon , the land in central Canberra. What it would be worth would be astronomical. On this they have built their COE , & to the sthn end near civic , they have erected about 40 residential units on the site where the old ACT Leagues club stood.

They own it all on top of the other assets you've listed
Holy good night

pussycat Mark 11 wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:02 pm

Gone wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:19 am

Ive literally posted a copy from the AFLs consolidated accounts that says otherwise. Learn to read champ.

So your saying they give out 2 reports? which one is the pretend one?

They are both real reports.

Actually they do - and so does the NRL - the glossy full report that everyone can publicly download from the site, and then theres the concise report which is partly contained in the AFL and NRL reports, but most of it is downloaded from the reports available on ASIC. The AFL publicly mentioned its company loss - 43m - but not its consolidated result. It almost never does.

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:19 pm

truthbomber wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:02 pm

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 pm

be interesting to know the values on the clubs assets up against each other

NRL v AFL

haha
would be an annihilation by the NRL clubs when including their leagues clubs etc

the buildings
the land they're on
the equipment etc in them , holy hell


RL , the most asseted sport in the country

i would love a real detailed breakdown of each club..

Roosters for example own all this

Waverley Bowling Club, Berkeley Sports, Kingswood Sports Club and Woy Woy Leagues. They also plan to turn North Bondi Golf and Diggers Club into a multi-purpose sports centre.

The centrepiece is a redeveloped Easts Leagues in Bondi Junction. The club has snapped up most of the property on the L-shaped block on the corner of Spring Street and Bronte Road with a long-term plan to turn it into a lucrative high-rise development.

let Alone Canterbury owning LAND in the heart of Liverpool
able to fit a stadium and shopping centre.

2019 Annual Report for the Raiders (which includes all controlled entities) - I havent bought the latest one yet.

Assets: 106m
Liabilities: 60.322m
Equity: 46.48m

Havent got the 2021 Easts report yet - the parent company report for the leagues is the district club - but last year

Assets: 165.626
Liabilities: 33.624
Equity: 132.001m

Havent got the 2021 Bulldogs report yet - for the parent company, again not the leagues club. In 2020:

Assets: 240.347m
Liabilities: 60.2
Equity: 180.146m

As business entities, the leagues clubs definitely beat the AFL clubs for assets and revenue - given leagues clubs are for profit entities and AFL clubs arent, this should not be surprising really. As football clubs, less so.

Gone wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:33 pm

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:19 pm

truthbomber wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:02 pm

haha
would be an annihilation by the NRL clubs when including their leagues clubs etc

the buildings
the land they're on
the equipment etc in them , holy hell


RL , the most asseted sport in the country

i would love a real detailed breakdown of each club..

Roosters for example own all this

Waverley Bowling Club, Berkeley Sports, Kingswood Sports Club and Woy Woy Leagues. They also plan to turn North Bondi Golf and Diggers Club into a multi-purpose sports centre.

The centrepiece is a redeveloped Easts Leagues in Bondi Junction. The club has snapped up most of the property on the L-shaped block on the corner of Spring Street and Bronte Road with a long-term plan to turn it into a lucrative high-rise development.

let Alone Canterbury owning LAND in the heart of Liverpool
able to fit a stadium and shopping centre.

2019 Annual Report for the Raiders (which includes all controlled entities) - I havent bought the latest one yet.

Assets: 106m
Liabilities: 60.322m
Equity: 46.48m

Havent got the 2021 Easts report yet - the parent company report for the leagues is the district club - but last year

Assets: 165.626
Liabilities: 33.624
Equity: 132.001m

Havent got the 2021 Bulldogs report yet - for the parent company, again not the leagues club. In 2020:

Assets: 240.347m
Liabilities: 60.2
Equity: 180.146m

As business entities, the leagues clubs definitely beat the AFL clubs for assets and revenue - given leagues clubs are for profit entities and AFL clubs arent, this should not be surprising really. As football clubs, less so.

so rugby league is the wealthiest sport in the land ?
good to know

Gone wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:33 pm

leeroy*NRL* wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:19 pm

truthbomber wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:02 pm

haha
would be an annihilation by the NRL clubs when including their leagues clubs etc

the buildings
the land they're on
the equipment etc in them , holy hell


RL , the most asseted sport in the country

i would love a real detailed breakdown of each club..

Roosters for example own all this

Waverley Bowling Club, Berkeley Sports, Kingswood Sports Club and Woy Woy Leagues. They also plan to turn North Bondi Golf and Diggers Club into a multi-purpose sports centre.

The centrepiece is a redeveloped Easts Leagues in Bondi Junction. The club has snapped up most of the property on the L-shaped block on the corner of Spring Street and Bronte Road with a long-term plan to turn it into a lucrative high-rise development.

let Alone Canterbury owning LAND in the heart of Liverpool
able to fit a stadium and shopping centre.

2019 Annual Report for the Raiders (which includes all controlled entities) - I havent bought the latest one yet.

Assets: 106m
Liabilities: 60.322m
Equity: 46.48m

Havent got the 2021 Easts report yet - the parent company report for the leagues is the district club - but last year

Assets: 165.626
Liabilities: 33.624
Equity: 132.001m

Havent got the 2021 Bulldogs report yet - for the parent company, again not the leagues club. In 2020:

Assets: 240.347m
Liabilities: 60.2
Equity: 180.146m

As business entities, the leagues clubs definitely beat the AFL clubs for assets and revenue - given leagues clubs are for profit entities and AFL clubs arent, this should not be surprising really. As football clubs, less so.

yeah its quite crazy how big alot of the Rugby League Clubs are...

After spinning out a visit to the USA in a desperate attempt to jack up the revenue they get from the next round of AFL broadcast rights management of the code appear to have been caught in their own spotlight with speculation that there has been no “massive” bid from Channel Ten and their US parent Company.

It also appears that the Labor Party in WA wants to put the AFL to air in HD as opposed to 4K on Foxtel with a political play at trying to push free to air TV which is only broadcast in HD Vs Ultra High Definition.

The Southern States football code was hoping to generate international interest in the five-year broadcast rights, which come into effect from the beginning of the 2025 season.

The Australian newspaper is claiming It was widely reported earlier this year that ten had tabled a $600m-a-year deal to clinch the rights – which would have been a significant jump on the value of the existing deal – provided the network could telecast some matches on its free-to-air channel and the remainder on its Paramount+ streaming service.
Now it appears that there was no deal.

The AFL had been counting on a war between local broadcasters Seven, Nine, Ten, and Foxtel who were being told that several overseas parties were interested in the rights.

Now it appears that Foxtel is in a prime position to cut a deal with Amazon Prime whose shows they already broadcast as the market for advertising softens due to changing economic conditions.

Another issue that has emerged is that provincial attitudes to free-to-air coverage of the sport in Western Australia is likely to cut the value of the final contract after WA Labor Premier Mark McGowan tried to nobble News Corp the owners of Foxtel, after West Coast Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett, Fremantle Dockers coach Justin Longmuir, along with WA Premier Mark McGowan and the Seven West-owned West Australian newspaper floated the idea that matches involving the WA clubs be shown exclusively by free-to-air networks.

It’s not known whether the latest move was part of a deal by Seven West Media to support Labor and Mark McGowan during the recent Federal Elections.

The Australian claims that should AFL matches involving the WA clubs, and the two South Australian teams (Adelaide Crows, and Port Adelaide) be awarded exclusively to a free-to-air network, the value of the overall rights will almost certainly fail to reach the ambitious targets being eyed off by the AFL’s executive team because the appeal of AFL to streaming services such as Foxtel and Amazon Prime would be significantly lessened leaving the AFL with less revenue.