Talking Footy

AFFP wrote:

The AFL looks after it's grass roots support. From acorns grow oak trees.

But you wouldn't know about that would you? The NRL couldn't give a stuff about their grass roots!

This is very true from what I've heard on the ground in NSW. A guy I know works for AFL/NSW and he said the failings of the CRL to look after country areas of NSW has seen the AFL move in creating more and more new teams and fostering grass roots support for these new clubs and leagues. Meanwhile the CRL...

Raiderdave wrote:

TLPG wrote:

The International Cup snuffs out the RL World Cup because the I Cup has more countries competing. So simple even KE can understand it - if he wants to that is!

no it doesn't

our world cup is played by full time professionals from at least 8 countries ... Aust , NZ , Eng , France , PNG .. Wales .. Ireland .. Fiji
all either playing in the NRL or ESL

Turn it up. That's crap and you know it. PNG, Wales, Ireleand, Fiji and even France with full time professional players. What rot. At the end of the day your world cup is a tri nations and nothing more between Australia, NZ and England. It's a farce.

http://www.rugbyleagueplanet.com/worldcup.htm
The Rugby League World Cup has incorporated many different formats since it's inception in 1954. The first six World Cup tournaments (1954 - 1972) involved the four test nations Australia, Great Britain, France and New Zealand. In 1975 the format changed with Great Britain being replaced by England and Wales. Due to the performance of the English team the format reverted back to four nations for the 1977 tournament.

The format had a radical change for the next two World Cup tournaments. Papua New Guinea joined Australia, Great Britain, France and New Zealand for the 1985 - 1988 & 1989 -1992 tournaments. Games were played over four years in a home and away type format. Games were intergrated into the test series calendar with the 3rd test counting towards the World Cup.

In 1995 for the first time the amount of participating nations increased to ten. Australia, England, France, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea were joined by Wales, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji and South Africa in a three week tournament. Due to the increase in nations participating, World cup organisers split the teams up into three Pools. The increase in nations allowed for semi-finals to be implemented along with the final.


The 2000 World Cup expanded to sixteen teams and four Pools. Russia, NZ Maori, Ireland, Scotland, Lebanon and the Cook Islands joined the nations that took part in the 1995 tournament. The further increase in teams allowed for a longer finals series that included quarter finals, semi finals and the final. The increase to 16 teams was a step to far for the international game at the time. The Pool rounds saw minnow nations suffer heavy defeats to test nations.

The 2008 World Cup format was mainly based on learning's from previous World Cup tournaments. The participating nations were reduced to ten. Five nations (Australia, New Zealand, France, England, Papua New Guinea) were automatic qualifiers. The other five teams had to qualify via Atlantic, Pacific and European qualifying legs. Qualifying saw Ireland, Scotland, Samoa, Tonga and Fiji qualify. World Cup organisers introduced a Super Pool to help address the lopsided results seen during the 2000 tournament. The Super Pool and the reduction in teams was a stroke of genius as the World Cup went on to become the most successful Rugby League World Cup to date.

The next World Cup is scheduled for 2013 and will build on the success of the 2008 tournament. With the massive growth of rugby league around the world 14 nations will take part. The World cup will then be held every four years after 2013 to create consistency in the World Cup calendar.

pussycat wrote:

AFFP wrote:

The AFL looks after it's grass roots support. From acorns grow oak trees.

But you wouldn't know about that would you? The NRL couldn't give a stuff about their grass roots!

News Ltd couldn't, there only concerned about profits. But the people who took over our game are leaving and rugby League will be given back to its rightful owners - the fans.

And the game will die, because there isn't enough of them! Well said, AFFP.

Further, Pussycat, your statement failed to address Beau's comment. The only fully professional teams at the RL World Cup were the big three. Provide evidence otherwise.

TLPG wrote:

pussycat wrote:

AFFP wrote:

The AFL looks after it's grass roots support. From acorns grow oak trees.

But you wouldn't know about that would you? The NRL couldn't give a stuff about their grass roots!

News Ltd couldn't, there only concerned about profits. But the people who took over our game are leaving and rugby League will be given back to its rightful owners - the fans.

And the game will die, because there isn't enough of them! Well said, AFFP.

Further, Pussycat, your statement failed to address Beau's comment. The only fully professional teams at the RL World Cup were the big three. Provide evidence otherwise.

I think your probably right - Quiet a few of the sides would have professional players in them, but there probably the only fultime professional sides. The game is still only developing, in many countries, especially some of the european ones the game is still in its infancy.

Whatever it does have though is CONSIDERABLY More than what the AFL have.


Beau was adressed , I went to some lengths and even provided a link. It's the post above yours

Beaussie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

TLPG wrote:

The International Cup snuffs out the RL World Cup because the I Cup has more countries competing. So simple even KE can understand it - if he wants to that is!

no it doesn't

our world cup is played by full time professionals from at least 8 countries ... Aust , NZ , Eng , France , PNG .. Wales .. Ireland .. Fiji
all either playing in the NRL or ESL

Turn it up. That's crap and you know it. PNG, Wales, Ireleand, Fiji and even France with full time professional players. What rot. At the end of the day your world cup is a tri nations and nothing more between Australia, NZ and England. It's a farce.

what did I write exactly ?
" all playing in either .. the NRL .. or ESL "

there are players from all these countries .. full time professionals .. playing in these comps


your international circus is not played by players from its elite level
its irrellevant

please read everything carefully next time
otherwise you look like a bigger nuffie then you already do

if that was possible

TLPG wrote:

pussycat wrote:

AFFP wrote:

The AFL looks after it's grass roots support. From acorns grow oak trees.

But you wouldn't know about that would you? The NRL couldn't give a stuff about their grass roots!

News Ltd couldn't, there only concerned about profits. But the people who took over our game are leaving and rugby League will be given back to its rightful owners - the fans.

And the game will die, because there isn't enough of them! Well said, AFFP.

Further, Pussycat, your statement failed to address Beau's comment. The only fully professional teams at the RL World Cup were the big three. Provide evidence otherwise.

thats two more then the AFL

& I think the French team is also all fulltimers ( most play for the Catalan Dragons in the ESL ) .... I think , I'll check it out

so thats three more then the AFL

This is an absolute belting post Raider. TLPG completely smashed, utterly! Allthough that's not a hard thing you have done it so sharply here. I love how his little clan of tryhards just reverted/regressed back to the grass roots argument

Raiderdave wrote:

TLPG wrote:

The International Cup snuffs out the RL World Cup because the I Cup has more countries competing. So simple even KE can understand it - if he wants to that is!

no it doesn't

our world cup is played by full time professionals from at least 8 countries ... Aust , NZ , Eng , France , PNG .. Wales .. Ireland .. Fiji
all either playing in the NRL or ESL

your international cup is played by postmen ... roadworkers .. supermarket shelve fillers ... shop assistants ... & janitors

they have to get time off work in their holidays to fumble their way around for a week ... its a joke
most wouldn't get a run with the Batemans Bay U18's ( & they're cr@p)

do you have a World cup played by full time professionals ?
you know
Like Soccer , Rugby Union ... Basketball ... Cricket .. Baseball ..
oh .. & one other

oh yeah ... Rugby League
well do ya
do ya punk ?

=D>

Raiderdave wrote:

Beaussie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

no it doesn't

our world cup is played by full time professionals from at least 8 countries ... Aust , NZ , Eng , France , PNG .. Wales .. Ireland .. Fiji
all either playing in the NRL or ESL

Turn it up. That's crap and you know it. PNG, Wales, Ireleand, Fiji and even France with full time professional players. What rot. At the end of the day your world cup is a tri nations and nothing more between Australia, NZ and England. It's a farce.

what did I write exactly ?
" all playing in either .. the NRL .. or ESL "

there are players from all these countries .. full time professionals .. playing in these comps

Again, crap. There is no way every player for PNG, Wales, Ireland and Fiji and even Frans is a full time professional in either the NRL or ESL. You're an idiot Raiderdave.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/derby-ratin ... public_rss

Derby ratings and crowds in decline Chief Football Writer Michelangelo Rucci From: Adelaide April 18, 2011 2:53PM


FOOTBALL fans did not stay away from Showdown XXX to become couch potatoes, according to TV ratings.
The second lowest-attended derby - with just 33,143 passing through the gates at AAMI Stadium on Saturday evening - coincided with the second lowest-rating Showdown since the Power-Crows rivalry began in 1997.

OzTAM ratings for Channel 10, OneHD and Pay-TV network FoxSports1 reveal the average audience for Showdown XXX was 195,448. The past three derbies have failed to crack the 200,000 average.

This continues the trend of falling attendance AND falling television ratings in Adelaide - a sequence which confuses and disturbs the AFL.

And the frustration for the two SA-based AFL clubs is this trend has deepened despite a concerted and joint advertising camapign to lure the fans back to AAMI Stadium.



http://www.mediaspy.org/report/2010/07/ ... s-decline/
Television ratings for the AFL are reported to have declined as much as 25 per cent from their 2009 figures.

Melbourne viewership for Saturday night games on Ten have dropped from 374,000 viewers in 2009, to 283,000 viewers so far this year according to The Herald Sun.

Umm, you seen the respective ladder positions of both Adelaide teams this season. Not a whole lot to be excited about in 2011 if you get the drift.

Beaussie wrote:

Umm, you seen the respective ladder positions of both Adelaide teams this season. Not a whole lot to be excited about in 2011 if you get the drift.

It has been in decline for a number of years.

Ten won't play ball with Seven over AFL
24 Jun 2011

By Lucy Barbour

Network Ten has withdrawn from a potential deal to broadcast Seven-owned AFL matches for the 2012-2016 seasons, and may look to bid for NRL games instead.

The networks have been in talks following Seven's purchase of the AFL rights deal earlier this year. Seven had offered to on-sell two games out of every round.

Ten head of sport David Barham said it was sad news for the Network's AFL team.

“It's just a pure business decision,â€

All eight matches will be shown on Seven, Kitten.

Just 4 matches will be on 7.

All 9 matches will be shown of Fox.