Talking Footy

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

gee.. you'd better hope its 2 million for 5 years when they're signed .....cos if they're not ( and of course they won't )
i'll be a huntin ya down .. u dribbling half wit

K?

Well given they say the nRL radio rights value will double... to $2 million I think I'll be safe.

Any sources suggesting it will be $15 million yet?

Moron

so just to be clear

thats .... 2 million for 5 years ... right ?

400K a season

thats what you're claiming the NRL radio rights will be worth
if you could confirm your prediction

2 million all up .. for 5 years ??

Yes, that is what the sources are suggesting.

The_Wookie wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Double $90 million and what does that come to Xturd?

Take the 90 million from a 6 year deal and it becomes 75 million over a 5 year deal. Double it and you get the 150 million figure.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/ ... 14477.html

For those playing at home it makes a small overall difference in the financial long run

NRL Total Income - $1,612,000,000.00 (based on the assumption that non nrl tv revenue remains fixed at 87 million over the 5 years)
AFL Total Income -$2,072,700,000.00 (based on the assumption that non AFL tv revenue remains fixed at 180 million over the 5 years)
Difference in Income -$460,700,000.00

NRL Annual Income - $322,400,000.00 (based on the assumption that non nrl tv revenue remains fixed at 87 million)
AFL Annual Income - $414,540,000.00 (based on the assumption that non AFL tv revenue remains fixed at 180 million)
Difference in anunal - $92,140,000.00

lol, you missed that link with the $180 mill again didn't you?

Oh well, maybe your dreams of RL failing at something else will come true instead eh?

piesman2011 wrote:

Can you explain your NRL non media amount of 435 million Dave? Which according to your calculations is 87 million a year. Correct me if I am wrong but I am getting 170 million (current total) - 83 million (AUS TV) - 14 million (NZ TV) - 15 million (Naming/online) - 1.5 million (radio according to dave) = 56.5 million a year or 282.5 million over 5 years.

Old figures, isn't that your problem, or is it the made up ones?

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Can you explain your NRL non media amount of 435 million Dave? Which according to your calculations is 87 million a year. Correct me if I am wrong but I am getting 170 million (current total) - 83 million (AUS TV) - 14 million (NZ TV) - 15 million (Naming/online) - 1.5 million (radio according to dave) = 56.5 million a year or 282.5 million over 5 years.

Old figures, isn't that your problem, or is it the made up ones?

All Dave did to get his figure was to take away the Aus TV rights from the total. He got sloppy with his figures again, because he didnt take out the naming/online/radio and NZ media rights.

That is why I keep saying, Leave the old deals where they are, in the past.

No one can put up what the NRL was getting and compare it to what they are getting now.

From 1997 till 2008, Ch9 paid the NRL $13 million a year, $13 messily million a season, what a bunch of merkins.

This deal is fun because we have seen a gap closed that shouldn't have been there in the first place seeing as RL was the first code in Aus to get $100 million + for their TV rights 20+ years ago. The next TV deal will be very interesting.

piesman2011 wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Can you explain your NRL non media amount of 435 million Dave? Which according to your calculations is 87 million a year. Correct me if I am wrong but I am getting 170 million (current total) - 83 million (AUS TV) - 14 million (NZ TV) - 15 million (Naming/online) - 1.5 million (radio according to dave) = 56.5 million a year or 282.5 million over 5 years.

Old figures, isn't that your problem, or is it the made up ones?

All Dave did to get his figure was to take away the Aus TV rights from the total. He got sloppy with his figures again, because he didnt take out the naming/online/radio and NZ media rights.

or I added these in as non media ... technically they are media , so that should have been non TV

435 Million ... non tv

makes no real difference
NRL revenue ova 5 years is now nearing 1.8 Billion ova 5 years with this telstra deal potentially worth up to 200 Million dollars ... not 150 million which I used as the figure here
only about 400 mill short of the VFL
& when costs are factored in

we effectively now have more free .. un used income then the VFL

wow
just wow

The Telstra deal is most likely to be worth as little as $100m, hence why there was no announcement on the official number as the nRL knows that it's embarrassing compared to what the AFL gets.

Yep, that's it

Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Old figures, isn't that your problem, or is it the made up ones?

All Dave did to get his figure was to take away the Aus TV rights from the total. He got sloppy with his figures again, because he didnt take out the naming/online/radio and NZ media rights.

or I added these in as non media ... technically they are media , so that should have been non TV

435 Million ... non tv

makes no real difference
NRL revenue ova 5 years is now nearing 1.8 Billion ova 5 years with this telstra deal potentially worth up to 200 Million dollars ... not 150 million which I used as the figure here
only about 400 mill short of the VFL
& when costs are factored in

we effectively now have more free .. un used income then the VFL

wow
just wow

Except the non media money your miles behind on, and the extra money each club makes

Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Old figures, isn't that your problem, or is it the made up ones?

All Dave did to get his figure was to take away the Aus TV rights from the total. He got sloppy with his figures again, because he didnt take out the naming/online/radio and NZ media rights.

or I added these in as non media ... technically they are media , so that should have been non TV

435 Million ... non tv

makes no real difference
NRL revenue ova 5 years is now nearing 1.8 Billion ova 5 years with this telstra deal potentially worth up to 200 Million dollars ... not 150 million which I used as the figure here
only about 400 mill short of the VFL
& when costs are factored in

we effectively now have more free .. un used income then the VFL

wow
just wow

Thats fine but you are effectively adding the old naming/online and NZ TV rights to the current Aus TV and then added the new expected amount for naming/online and NZ TV rights so you double counted. In essence you added an extra 30 million a year or 150 million to the total deal. If you are happy that is fine but in my mind it doesnt look very accurate.
If you really wanted to make the NRL deal look better what you need to do is take away Total player payments which is about 11 million X 18 for AFL clubs and about 6 million X 16 for NRL clubs this really evens up the totals and I am suprised that you guys didnt think of it.
The AFL is paying about 100 million a year more in player payments so in the end you could say that the NRL and AFL really have about the same amount of cash for spending on everything else over the next 5 years anyway.

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

All Dave did to get his figure was to take away the Aus TV rights from the total. He got sloppy with his figures again, because he didnt take out the naming/online/radio and NZ media rights.

or I added these in as non media ... technically they are media , so that should have been non TV

435 Million ... non tv

makes no real difference
NRL revenue ova 5 years is now nearing 1.8 Billion ova 5 years with this telstra deal potentially worth up to 200 Million dollars ... not 150 million which I used as the figure here
only about 400 mill short of the VFL
& when costs are factored in

we effectively now have more free .. un used income then the VFL

wow
just wow

If you really wanted to make the NRL deal look better what you need to do is take away Total player payments which is about 11 million X 18 for AFL clubs and about 6 million X 16 for NRL clubs this really evens up the totals and I am suprised that you guys didnt think of it. The AFL is paying about 100 million a year more in player payments so in the end you could say that the NRL and AFL really have about the same amount of cash for spending on everything else over the next 5 years anyway.

I have & did
I've said about 5 times now

the VFL has higher revenue
the NRL lower costs

the NRL has more " free" income after the large essential costs are extracted
about 15 to 20 million more a year

wow
how did that happen ?

Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

or I added these in as non media ... technically they are media , so that should have been non TV

435 Million ... non tv

makes no real difference
NRL revenue ova 5 years is now nearing 1.8 Billion ova 5 years with this telstra deal potentially worth up to 200 Million dollars ... not 150 million which I used as the figure here
only about 400 mill short of the VFL
& when costs are factored in

we effectively now have more free .. un used income then the VFL

wow
just wow

If you really wanted to make the NRL deal look better what you need to do is take away Total player payments which is about 11 million X 18 for AFL clubs and about 6 million X 16 for NRL clubs this really evens up the totals and I am suprised that you guys didnt think of it. The AFL is paying about 100 million a year more in player payments so in the end you could say that the NRL and AFL really have about the same amount of cash for spending on everything else over the next 5 years anyway.

I have & did
I've said about 5 times now

the VFL has higher revenue
the NRL lower costs

the NRL has more " free" income after the large essential costs are extracted
about 15 to 20 million more a year

wow
how did that happen ?

What you dont get you silly ***** is that we will all spend all our money on the same things.Stadiums,players,fans,expansion and grass roots.The AFL is just spending a shit load more because we have it.Your game cant even find 6 million for 30 players.(ave 200,000)our boys have 10.1 over 42(240,000).League players are the working poor of the sports world

pookus wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

If you really wanted to make the NRL deal look better what you need to do is take away Total player payments which is about 11 million X 18 for AFL clubs and about 6 million X 16 for NRL clubs this really evens up the totals and I am suprised that you guys didnt think of it. The AFL is paying about 100 million a year more in player payments so in the end you could say that the NRL and AFL really have about the same amount of cash for spending on everything else over the next 5 years anyway.

I have & did
I've said about 5 times now

the VFL has higher revenue
the NRL lower costs

the NRL has more " free" income after the large essential costs are extracted
about 15 to 20 million more a year

wow
how did that happen ?

What you dont get you silly ***** is that we will all spend all our money on the same things.Stadiums,players,fans,expansion and grass roots.

yes ... & we'll spend ours on sh.its & skittles .. & nothing else


FMD what a dribbler

the fear is rampant ..
being numb 2 doesn't sit well with these singlet wearing tools

Raiderdave wrote:

pookus wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

I have & did
I've said about 5 times now

the VFL has higher revenue
the NRL lower costs

the NRL has more " free" income after the large essential costs are extracted
about 15 to 20 million more a year

wow
how did that happen ?

What you dont get you silly ***** is that we will all spend all our money on the same things.Stadiums,players,fans,expansion and grass roots.

yes ... & we'll spend ours on sh.its & skittles .. & nothing else


FMD what a dribbler

the fear is rampant ..
being numb 2 doesn't sit well with these singlet wearing tools

Higher revenue allows you to spend more fool!

The AFL dont spend millions on expansion because its an essential cost. They spend it because they can afford it and it will benefit the code in the long . They don't spend millions on stadiums because theyre essential costs, but because they have the funds to provide larger stadiums with better facilities.

Clubs don't have teams of support staff including coaches, medical staff and trainers because they need this many to filed a team. They do it because their revenue allows this level of professionalism.

Your obsession with making ends meet on a low revenue base is hilarious. The low revenue of most of your clubs effectively limits the NRL to a suburban league in 2 states. They'll never grow until they can afford better stadiums, facilities, stadiums...

The Adelaide Crows have posted a net profit of $122,434 for the AFL year.

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Sport/2 ... 26207.html

Business model projections indicate the Crows can budget for significantly increased corporate and match-day revenue playing home games from the refurbished Adelaide Oval.

and this will benefit the power as well