Talking Footy

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pussycat wrote:

50% Xman? try third(33%). And again witn the whinge abiout the longer game - and overlapping matches eating into each others rating - until it suits you. WELL HERE'S A FACT we can stage back to back games of a Friday night, or any other timeslot suitable - while you cant! It's the prime rating timeslot of a Friday night we can win the ratings for 4 Houurs - a quarter(25%) longer. And they win the ratings in the biggest TV advertising state in Australia - Sydney, which writes 5x the advertising that Adelaide does. The regional league areas more than double Adelaide.

When you have a captive audience of 2 or 3 million , then the sky's the limit as far as advertising goes, and we have four such events compared to your lone one.

Who knows, give it a few years and an add during Origin might be a squillion $ a second like the Super bowl

HERES A FACT even with 4 hours of TV NRL friday nights still has less advertising then 1 AFL match
HERES ANOTHER FACT when you add up the average ratings for both the two games nationally you end up with about 850-900 K ratings over 4 hours on friday night. Compared to AFL's 1.2 million average this year for friday nights (calculated guess)
HERES ANOTHER FACT your viewers (due to regionals ) generate less advertising revenue for FTA TV
HERES ANOTHER FACT your friday night games the the 2 best games for the week while the AFL's friday night game often is not the most anticipated game.


Overall this will equal less in the broadcast deal. I beleive that the NRL can still get 1 billion with SOO, NZ, contra, internet and phone but they will have to destroy their great product with a crap load of advertising which will probably lower the ratings over the next 5 years.

piesman2011 wrote:

pussycat wrote:

50% Xman? try third(33%). And again witn the whinge abiout the longer game - and overlapping matches eating into each others rating - until it suits you. WELL HERE'S A FACT we can stage back to back games of a Friday night, or any other timeslot suitable - while you cant! It's the prime rating timeslot of a Friday night we can win the ratings for 4 Houurs - a quarter(25%) longer. And they win the ratings in the biggest TV advertising state in Australia - Sydney, which writes 5x the advertising that Adelaide does. The regional league areas more than double Adelaide.

When you have a captive audience of 2 or 3 million , then the sky's the limit as far as advertising goes, and we have four such events compared to your lone one.

Who knows, give it a few years and an add during Origin might be a squillion $ a second like the Super bowl

HERES A FACT even with 4 hours of TV NRL friday nights still has less advertising then 1 AFL match
HERES ANOTHER FACT when you add up the average ratings for both the two games nationally you end up with about 850-900 K ratings over 4 hours on friday night. Compared to AFL's 1.2 million average this year for friday nights (calculated guess)
HERES ANOTHER FACT your viewers (due to regionals ) generate less advertising revenue for FTA TV
HERES ANOTHER FACT your friday night games the the 2 best games for the week while the AFL's friday night game often is not the most anticipated game.


Overall this will equal less in the broadcast deal. I beleive that the NRL can still get 1 billion with SOO, NZ, contra, internet and phone but they will have to destroy their great product with a crap load of advertising which will probably lower the ratings over the next 5 years.

=D> =D>

Did you read that article ? or only the parts that suited you? The Nrl are working on putting more commercials into there game.

The other article - the one written by the unabashed AFL supporter, says,

* Rugby League rates as good or better, Particularly in Sydney, were 60% of advertising is written. And we havent even begun to talk about rep football yet.

Heres a fact - most of your facts are opinios - misguided ones at that.


aagh, you do believe it now And we will go up more and more each contract and you will go down and down, until yo can take your car and a blanket to the footy and have a picnic on the hill while you watch your beloved Carlton Ponce about.

pussycat wrote:

Did you read that article ? or only the parts that suited you? The Nrl are working on putting more commercials into there game.

The other article - the one written by the unabashed AFL supporter, says,

* Rugby League rates as good or better, Particularly in Sydney, were 60% of advertising is written. And we havent even begun to talk about rep football yet.

Heres a fact - most of your facts are opinios - misguided ones at that.


aagh, you do believe it now And we will go up more and more each contract and you will go down and down, until yo can take your car and a blanket to the footy and have a picnic on the hill while you watch your beloved Carlton Ponce about.

Is that just like the hill at most league venues. Your getting mean and desperate now puddy.To cover the revenue difference with the TV rights youll have to get double because remember its the only relevent revenue the nrl gets.And we both know that aint gonna happen.Just one thing if advertising is so big in Sydney why did the sharks have no naming sponsor until 3 games in.What a joke.NRL=No grounds No supporters No money(except from your bosses at channel nine)

pookus wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Xman wrote:

http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... r_2011.pdf

There's the breakdown of the advertising costs for each state and city. Sydney beats Melbourne but Perth/Adelaide beats Brisbane/GC. NSW/QLD beats the other states combine by about 20%. But this advantage won't overcome the almost 3 fold advantage each AFL game has in advertising time. this is confirmed in the following link:
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1ln6r.html

NRL Metro

Sydney $577,597,088

Brisbane $283,258,091

Regional (and you say regional doesn't matter )

New South Wales $207,315,118

Queensland $115,558,314

Total revenue League states = $1183,728.611


AFL Metro

Melbourne $434,129,053

Adelaide $117,750,735

Perth $174,983,262


Regional (jack all regional revenue in VIC and AFL states )


Victoria $69,500,589

South Australia $18,272,479

West Australia $24,342,211

Northern Territories/ Tasmania $37,523,430

Total revenue AFL states = $876,501,759


So with more adds worked into NRL games and heaps more regional ratings in its arsenal its no surprise that the NRL will get close to the AFL tv deal.

If NRL numbers are so good why dont I ever hear you guys saying youll better the AFL deal.Simply because parity is the most you could hope for and we all know that aint gonna happen.When you compare revenues NRL is a cottage industy compared to AFL.

What does revenues have to do with TV rights u douche

pussycat wrote:

Did you read that article ? or only the parts that suited you? The Nrl are working on putting more commercials into there game.

The other article - the one written by the unabashed AFL supporter, says,

* Rugby League rates as good or better, Particularly in Sydney, were 60% of advertising is written. And we havent even begun to talk about rep football yet.

Heres a fact - most of your facts are opinios - misguided ones at that.


aagh, you do believe it now And we will go up more and more each contract and you will go down and down, until yo can take your car and a blanket to the footy and have a picnic on the hill while you watch your beloved Carlton Ponce about.

In all your equations pookus you have forgot to compare apples with apples, you have more coverage that's why you have a jump in ratings and even with this jump in ratings its pretty much even as AFL fans on the roar have pointed out. You can enjoy it while it lasts next year me and the RL boys will make you cry once we have the same coverage as AFL.
And here is another fact, your facts about NRL ratings on friday night are wrong but good try dopey.

Delayed NINE'S FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,525A
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 202012.pdf

LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,130
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 202012.pdf

LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,142
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 202012.pdf

LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,121
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 2012-1.pdf

FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,157
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... rnight.pdf

LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,212
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 202012.pdf

From this amount the average is well above 1.1million on Fridays and this is just the last phew weeks.
And your guess on AFL ratings on Friday are just that, a guess
So in closing pookus you have no idea what you on about thankyou and goodnight

eelofwest wrote:

pussycat wrote:

Did you read that article ? or only the parts that suited you? The Nrl are working on putting more commercials into there game.

The other article - the one written by the unabashed AFL supporter, says,

* Rugby League rates as good or better, Particularly in Sydney, were 60% of advertising is written. And we havent even begun to talk about rep football yet.

Heres a fact - most of your facts are opinios - misguided ones at that.


aagh, you do believe it now And we will go up more and more each contract and you will go down and down, until yo can take your car and a blanket to the footy and have a picnic on the hill while you watch your beloved Carlton Ponce about.

In all your equations pookus you have forgot to compare apples with apples, you have more coverage that's why you have a jump in ratings and even with this jump in ratings its pretty much even as AFL fans on the roar have pointed out. You can enjoy it while it lasts next year me and the RL boys will make you cry once we have the same coverage as AFL.
And here is another fact, your facts about NRL ratings on friday night are wrong but good try dopey.

Delayed NINE'S FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,525A
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 202012.pdf

LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,130
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 202012.pdf

LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,142
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 202012.pdf

LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,121
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 2012-1.pdf

FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,157
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... rnight.pdf

LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 1,212
http://www.thinktv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3s ... 202012.pdf

From this amount the average is well above 1.1million on Fridays and this is just the last phew weeks.
And your guess on AFL ratings on Friday are just that, a guess
So in closing pookus you have no idea what you on about thankyou and goodnight

what the NRL has had only 6 friday night broadcasts (not games)? what about the other 11 broadcasts? There are two games on friday nights and the second broadcast doesnt really rate very well (often rates about 500K nationally) So when you average the two for a total 4 hour broadcast NRL rates about 850-900K at best (I think I am generous with that).

The problem with two broadcasts back to back is that the frist broadcast the live one (combo brisbane and sydney ratings from two different games) gets good ratings only because it is the two most interesting games for the two markets. This means that about half the market turns off the second games (late delayed game) because there is less interest for both markets and if you really want to know you can find out the result and skip all of the adds. If the NRL only allowed one game on friday night or if it played two games both live back to back then the first game wouldn't get as good ratings (say 1 million + viewers average) however the second game would rate almost as well.

Fri TV: #AFL detail Seven/7mate 729k (Syd 34k Mel 419k Bri 32k Ade 112k Per 132k)

Fri TV: #NRL detail Nine/GEM 720k (Syd 412 Mel 30k Bri 274k Per 3k) #NRL late 375k

Yet another FN win to the AFL despite a 3 hour telecast and a single game involving teams from one market!

Perth, dying for a RL team!

Even using those figures, The AFL have been smashed once again - 4 hours in the ratings capitol of Australia and thats without 40% of our ordiance...Wow. Two Sydney Teams, one coming last ... WOW.

http://twitter.com/#!/MediaweekAUS/stat ... 3766475777

Fri TV: #NRL detail Nine/GEM 720k (Syd 412 Mel 30k Bri 274k Per 3k) #NRL late 375k

Late game only got 375K I would estimate that Nationally that would be about 600K.

Once again NRL would average about 900K nationally for the 4 hour broadcast with as much advertising as 1 friday night AFL game. With Fox numbers the AFL average for this game would be about 1.2 million
1 AFL game >>> 2 NRL games

I wonder what the breakdown for the delayed game is in Syd, Bris, Mel, Ade and Pth?

Terrible ratings for prime time.

Beau I did note the AFL ratings in Sydney - 30 years on

pussycat wrote:

Beau I did note the AFL ratings in Sydney - 30 years on

Dare I say it, plus foxtel! :D