=D> =D> =D>piesman2011 wrote:We have been over this Eel but you dont seam to understand:
The Australian newspapers figures which have for 2011 NRL 113 and AFL 113
The Australians figures in 2012 had NRL 114 and AFL 123
The Sydney Morning herald in 2011 had NRL 134 and AFL 122 in Nov 2011 (more accurate released later in the year then your quote) (they are using different stats or missing figures in the Australian newspaper perhaps)
This is from the SMH Nov 2011 while your quote is Oct 2011.Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2KpQRamCUoutweighing the AFL by 12 million viewers this year. The 2011 season review revealed rugby league had a cumulative audience of 134 million viewers, without including a further 12 million in New Zealand.
So what would the 2012 figures be for this newspaper? Who knows?
But what you are doing is comparing figures from one stastical analysis which has come up with much bigger numbers (134 NRL and 122 AFL in 2011) and comparing it with a different statistical analysis,with much small figures (2011 113 NRL and 113 AFL and in 2012 114 NRL and 123 AFL). Then you using the AFLs figure from the smaller data sets comparing them to the NRL figures from the larger data sets and pretending that it means something.
This is what you did
2011 NRL 134 X1.01 for 2012 increase (135 total)+ NZ results 12 million = 147 million (which is fine)
but you gave AFL a figure of 122. (either thats the 2011 SMH stats which needs an increase for 2012 of 9%) or thats "The Australian's" data (incorrect its 123 million) which you cant really compare because it is a different statistical analysis.
What you should have done to the AFL data was use the same reports stats (comparing 2011 SMH data NRL V AFL and extraporlated) to make your data valid:
2011 AFL SMH data 122 X 1.09% (AFL increased ratings by 9% FTA + PTV overall in 2012 I think you forgot this) for 2012 increase (133 total) + Phone (1 million + subs) T-box and tablets = who knows but I think 150 million +
The reason for this is that if you used the NRL SMH data for the NRL 2011 and add the increase for 2012 you need to use the SMH data for AFL and add their 9% increase.
You cant use data from one report and compare it directly with the other report.
Thats like me using "The Australian's" NRL 114 million and comparing it with my 133 AFL figure that I extrapolated from the SMH.
STOP TRYING TO USE STATS I DONT THINK YOU GET IT
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7K is a tremendous turnout
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piesman2011 wrote:that I extrapolated from the SMH.
the Only thing you extrapolate .. is shit
from one end of your posts to the other
RL whopped .... whupped ... smashed ... Victorian Rules & its as plain as day this occured in 2012
the whining
crying
feeting stamping
from singletballers ... is some of the funniest .. & saddest ... stuff one will read
they just cannot accept reality
& their delusion is quite astounding
RL.. Australias most watched sport
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
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piesman2011 wrote:You might be right. There are a few issues:eelofwest wrote:Might be right.......................piesman2011 wrote:Eels for 2011 in one paper the AFL got a rating of 122 million compared to the NRL/RL having 133? million for culumative ratings (Sydney morning herald?). In another report AFL had 113 million in another for culumative ratings (the Australian) and the NRL got 113. This year the only report I have see has been the Australian, which talked about two different ways of adding up ratings. In both AFL was in front.
You can add NZ viewers and I can add T-box, tablets and phone viewers, all of which take away from people watching games on TV for the AFL. Yes NRL will have phone viewers next year but this will take away from your TV viewers and with no new changes for NRL next year apart from a slight change to the time in which one game is shown your TV viewer numbers will suffer. You might be right in that RL has won the cumulative ratings this year but you dont know for sure. But all of the reports printed so far say otherwise.
Mate you know it i know it on this issue i am 100% correct and i dare you to prove me otherwise.
Look at the 2011 ratings of 134m + 12m in NZ, now i linked Xman the 2012 RL anual report which shows 0.3% up on FTA ratings, 1.4% up on Fox ratings and SOO is up 10% and the Test matches were also up slightly.
How can you even deny that the RL gave Aussie rules another Ass wooping in 2012?
Come on at least admit the blatantly obvious that the RL handed your code a beatings on Tele.
Or are you going to stick your head in the sand Pies????
Firstly the silence from the NRL in terms of saying "we won" .
we win every year
we're used to it
the headline whores the VFL ... are the only ones who go running to the press when they win something
& they haven't been able to much of late
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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Xman wrote:They are completely different indicatorsRaiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Most watched sport? 16 hrs a week v 27 hrs
I wonder which is most watched?
and which hour is more valuable to broadcasters in this nation
an hour of vicky kicky
or
an hour of Rugby League
& folks ... its another whupping for the Victorian game
We have the most valuable Australian TV product and we are the most watched sporting product in Australia.
I don;t care
answer the question
who gets more bang for their buck
it seems .... VFL is a low priced commodity
cheap as chips to buy
&
is watched by less Australians then Rugby League
silver
yep.. it looks good on you blokes
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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Bang for their buck....Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:They are completely different indicatorsRaiderdave wrote:
and which hour is more valuable to broadcasters in this nation
an hour of vicky kicky
or
an hour of Rugby League
& folks ... its another whupping for the Victorian game
We have the most valuable Australian TV product and we are the most watched sporting product in Australia.
I don;t care
answer the question
who gets more bang for their buck
it seems .... VFL is a low priced commodity
cheap as chips to buy
&
is watched by less Australians then Rugby League
silver
yep.. it looks good on you blokes
The idea is to get your product on FTA to give the teams maximum exposure. Then these teams can gain maximum revenue from sponsorship. The AFL accepted a lower than achievable deal to ensure each team was shown on FTA into their home state (except Vic teams). This will benefit these teams substantially over the coming 5 years. Pity the poor raiders....
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.
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so did the NRLXman wrote:Bang for their buck....Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:They are completely different indicators
We have the most valuable Australian TV product and we are the most watched sporting product in Australia.
I don;t care
answer the question
who gets more bang for their buck
it seems .... VFL is a low priced commodity
cheap as chips to buy
&
is watched by less Australians then Rugby League
silver
yep.. it looks good on you blokes
The AFL accepted a lower than achievable deal:
in exchange for its F& L rights
& we still have far less time on air
but got more money
jeez.. how the fuck did we manage that ?
RL
the most valuable sporting commodity in Australia
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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because the afl is shown on FTA into expansion markets 4 times a week, with 2 being in prime timeRaiderdave wrote:so did the NRLXman wrote:Bang for their buck....Raiderdave wrote:
I don;t care
answer the question
who gets more bang for their buck
it seems .... VFL is a low priced commodity
cheap as chips to buy
&
is watched by less Australians then Rugby League
silver
yep.. it looks good on you blokes
The AFL accepted a lower than achievable deal:
in exchange for its F& L rights
& we still have far less time on air
but got more money
jeez.. how the fuck did we manage that ?
RL
the most valuable sporting commodity in Australia
The AFL is also simulcast for every game, with 8 of 9 concurrent, therefore reducing the audience for both FTA and fox.
The NRL only 3 FTA games into expansion states, with only 1 being prime time. They also have 6 of eight games in isolation and no simulcasting.
Get it yet?
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.
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with a but but here & a but but thereXman wrote:because the afl is shown on FTA into expansion markets 4 times a week, with 2 being in prime timeRaiderdave wrote:so did the NRLXman wrote:Bang for their buck....
The AFL accepted a lower than achievable deal:
in exchange for its F& L rights
& we still have far less time on air
but got more money
jeez.. how the fuck did we manage that ?
RL
the most valuable sporting commodity in Australia
The AFL is also simulcast for every game, with 8 of 9 concurrent, therefore reducing the audience for both FTA and fox.
The NRL only 3 FTA games into expansion states, with only 1 being prime time. They also have 6 of eight games in isolation and no simulcasting.
Get it yet?
here a but
there a but
everywhere a but but
you can't get as much money as us , under any circumstances
thats what you lot said
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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Wow the but butting is starting to get heavy now dave......................Xman wrote:because the afl is shown on FTA into expansion markets 4 times a week, with 2 being in prime timeRaiderdave wrote:so did the NRLXman wrote:Bang for their buck....
The AFL accepted a lower than achievable deal:
in exchange for its F& L rights
& we still have far less time on air
but got more money
jeez.. how the fuck did we manage that ?
RL
the most valuable sporting commodity in Australia
The AFL is also simulcast for every game, with 8 of 9 concurrent, therefore reducing the audience for both FTA and fox.
The NRL only 3 FTA games into expansion states, with only 1 being prime time. They also have 6 of eight games in isolation and no simulcasting.
Get it yet?
The AFL offered the networks a extra game and we still get more TV money, less hours on Tele and less games and we are getting more TV money who would have thought... =D>
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yeah eelseelofwest wrote:Wow the but butting is starting to get heavy now dave......................Xman wrote:because the afl is shown on FTA into expansion markets 4 times a week, with 2 being in prime timeRaiderdave wrote:so did the NRL
in exchange for its F& L rights
& we still have far less time on air
but got more money
jeez.. how the fuck did we manage that ?
RL
the most valuable sporting commodity in Australia
The AFL is also simulcast for every game, with 8 of 9 concurrent, therefore reducing the audience for both FTA and fox.
The NRL only 3 FTA games into expansion states, with only 1 being prime time. They also have 6 of eight games in isolation and no simulcasting.
Get it yet?
The AFL offered the networks a extra game and we still get more TV money, less hours on Tele and less games and we are getting more TV money who would have thought... =D>
22 extra games since 2010 ..... & STILL less coin
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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What an NRL apologist fuckwit you are Dave.Here is your pissant little club dying for exposure being reamed by the worst coverage deal ever.But you got close(reality is you got less in Australia and gave a whole lot more).What fukn idiot would argue the virtues of there own club being considered irrelavent by the competition they help uphold.Your a fool Dave.Raiderdave wrote:yeah eelseelofwest wrote:Wow the but butting is starting to get heavy now dave......................Xman wrote:because the afl is shown on FTA into expansion markets 4 times a week, with 2 being in prime time
The AFL is also simulcast for every game, with 8 of 9 concurrent, therefore reducing the audience for both FTA and fox.
The NRL only 3 FTA games into expansion states, with only 1 being prime time. They also have 6 of eight games in isolation and no simulcasting.
Get it yet?
The AFL offered the networks a extra game and we still get more TV money, less hours on Tele and less games and we are getting more TV money who would have thought... =D>
22 extra games since 2010 ..... & STILL less coin
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pookus wrote:What an NRL apologist fuckwit you are Dave.Here is your pissant little club dying for exposure being reamed by the worst coverage deal ever.But you got close(reality is you got less in Australia and gave a whole lot more).What fukn idiot would argue the virtues of there own club being considered irrelavent by the competition they help uphold.Your a fool Dave.Raiderdave wrote:yeah eelseelofwest wrote:Wow the but butting is starting to get heavy now dave......................
The AFL offered the networks a extra game and we still get more TV money, less hours on Tele and less games and we are getting more TV money who would have thought... =D>
22 extra games since 2010 ..... & STILL less coin
Dying for exposure cockhead ?
they announced a 3.4 Million dollar profit for 2012
meanwhile theres some vicky kicky clubs who had every game shown on FTA .. & they posted multi million dollar losses
they laugh at our TV exposure
we laugh at their bank account balances
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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Raiderdave wrote:What an NRL apologist fuckwit you are Dave.Here is your pissant little club dying for exposure being reamed by the worst coverage deal ever.But you got close(reality is you got less in Australia and gave a whole lot more).What fukn idiot would argue the virtues of there own club being considered irrelavent by the competition they help uphold.Your a fool Dave.pookus wrote:yeah eelsRaiderdave wrote:Wow the but butting is starting to get heavy now dave......................
The AFL offered the networks a extra game and we still get more TV money, less hours on Tele and less games and we are getting more TV money who would have thought... =D>
22 extra games since 2010 ..... & STILL less coin
Dying for exposure cockhead ?
they announced a 3.4 Million dollar profit for 2012
meanwhile theres some vicky kicky clubs who had every game shown on FTA .. & they posted multi million dollar losses
they laugh at our TV exposure
we laugh at their bank account balances [/quote]
Just shows you what a fool you are Dave.Do you barrack for the bottom line or your club.I couldnt give a shit about the clubs finances all I know is noone supports your pissant club.They might play their pokies but they couldnt give a shit about the football.How could they they never see them. Nrl apologist fool.Thank you sir may I have another.Canberra most insignificant professional football franchise in Australia
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Raiderdave wrote:piesman2011 wrote:that I extrapolated from the SMH.
the Only thing you extrapolate .. is shit
from one end of your posts to the other
RL whopped .... whupped ... smashed ... Victorian Rules & its as plain as day this occured in 2012
the whining
crying
feeting stamping
from singletballers ... is some of the funniest .. & saddest ... stuff one will read
they just cannot accept reality
& their delusion is quite astounding
RL.. Australias most watched sport
Someone else who has no clue when it comes to numbers. When you learn to add up to 5 come back and talk some stats with me.
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pookus wrote:What an NRL apologist fuckwit you are Dave.Here is your pissant little club dying for exposure being reamed by the worst coverage deal ever.But you got close(reality is you got less in Australia and gave a whole lot more).What fukn idiot would argue the virtues of there own club being considered irrelavent by the competition they help uphold.Your a fool Dave.Raiderdave wrote:yeah eelspookus wrote:Wow the but butting is starting to get heavy now dave......................
The AFL offered the networks a extra game and we still get more TV money, less hours on Tele and less games and we are getting more TV money who would have thought... =D>
22 extra games since 2010 ..... & STILL less coin
Dying for exposure cockhead ?
they announced a 3.4 Million dollar profit for 2012
meanwhile theres some vicky kicky clubs who had every game shown on FTA .. & they posted multi million dollar losses
they laugh at our TV exposure
we laugh at their bank account balances [/quote]
Just shows you what a fool you are Dave.Do you barrack for the bottom line or your club.I couldnt give a shit about the clubs finances all I know is noone supports your pissant club.They might play their pokies but they couldnt give a shit about the football.How could they they never see them. Nrl apologist fool.Thank you sir may I have another.Canberra most insignificant professional football franchise in Australia[/quote]
you're the one suggesting we're dying because of lack of exposure you utter knob
exposure meaning a stronger bottom line through increased sponsorship ... membership etc
well the extra 3 Million a year we get from the TV money straight up will more then cover this , & we can make a case direct to the NRL for more then the standard amount based on our lack of FTA coverage
we'd love a better deal on TV
but is it essential for our survival .... well I think I've shown its not & its a great testiment to what a well run club the Raiders are.
I mean
imagine some of the Fuckstick clubs in the VFL .. Like North Melb ... Poort Poweroutage & the Paddle Pop Wions & many many others
surviving on the coverage the raiders get ?
those multi million dollar losses would be in the tens of millions...... eh *********** ?
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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