Talking Footy

pussycat wrote:

read it and weep? - Our profit was 3x that of yours because we don't have the costs and expenses of your mob . Expences and extra costs that you somehow see as a good thing - D's brainwashing really runs deep in this one.

Costs and expenses are there because the revenue is there. AFL fans get to attend state of the art stadiums because the AFL have the revenue to make them available. Therefore these costs ARE a good thing.

Its like claiming youre better off with an income of 50k if you can save 5k a year, than someone on 500k who saves 1k. You're ignoring the fact the guy on 500k lives in a far better house and drives a BMW while you rent a dive and drive a Hyundai.

The NRL saved money because they barely spend anything and their comp and fans are worse for it

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

read it and weep? - Our profit was 3x that of yours because we don't have the costs and expenses of your mob . Expences and extra costs that you somehow see as a good thing - D's brainwashing really runs deep in this one.

Costs and expenses are there because the revenue is there. AFL fans get to attend state of the art stadiums because the AFL have the revenue to make them available. Therefore these costs ARE a good thing.

Its like claiming youre better off with an income of 50k if you can save 5k a year, than someone on 500k who saves 1k. You're ignoring the fact the guy on 500k lives in a far better house and drives a BMW while you rent a dive and drive a Hyundai.

The NRL saved money because they barely spend anything and their comp and fans are worse for it

there is no use trying to explain it to pussycat. he is to limited to understand. i tried explaining it to him/her ages ago.
what else do you get from an NRL fan

Swans4ever wrote:

pussycat wrote:

read it and weep? - Our profit was 3x that of yours because we don't have the costs and expenses of your mob . Expences and extra costs that you somehow see as a good thing - D's brainwashing really runs deep in this one.

Same ol same ol - your profits tell me how much profits have the NRL made in the last 10 yrs???? 50 mil that's all - AFL has dipped just twice in that time when they built from scratch two new clubs - and the NRL no expansion in sight falling crowds AND TV - clubs without a major sponsor and having to go cap in hand to touch to make them even remotely relevant participation wise!!! Yes enjoy your profit - meanwhile AFL will continue to expand pour money into development and build - the future so bright we have to wear shades !!

As you point out the NRL has made little money in the last 10-20 years. They've lived of the smell of a oily rag while the leaches at News Ltd Nrl sucked them dry. But after barely 18 months there back at the top of the tree, like they were 20 years ago when News Limited took the game over. They've gone past the AFL in most
categories. The Storm being the highest rating club on ptv is just the latest in a number of nock-out blows being landed by the NRL on the AFL. Were will they expand? They will pay off Debt thats what they will do until they eventually wither & die.

Swans4ever wrote:

pussycat wrote:

read it and weep? - Our profit was 3x that of yours because we don't have the costs and expenses of your mob . Expences and extra costs that you somehow see as a good thing - D's brainwashing really runs deep in this one.

Same ol same ol - your profits tell me how much profits have the NRL made in the last 10 yrs???? 50 mil that's all - AFL has dipped just twice in that time when they built from scratch two new clubs - and the NRL no expansion in sight falling crowds AND TV - clubs without a major sponsor and having to go cap in hand to touch to make them even remotely relevant participation wise!!! Yes enjoy your profit - meanwhile AFL will continue to expand pour money into development and build - the future so bright we have to wear shades !!

I think a seeing eye dog might be a better investment.

pussycat wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

pussycat wrote:

read it and weep? - Our profit was 3x that of yours because we don't have the costs and expenses of your mob . Expences and extra costs that you somehow see as a good thing - D's brainwashing really runs deep in this one.

Same ol same ol - your profits tell me how much profits have the NRL made in the last 10 yrs???? 50 mil that's all - AFL has dipped just twice in that time when they built from scratch two new clubs - and the NRL no expansion in sight falling crowds AND TV - clubs without a major sponsor and having to go cap in hand to touch to make them even remotely relevant participation wise!!! Yes enjoy your profit - meanwhile AFL will continue to expand pour money into development and build - the future so bright we have to wear shades !!

As you point out the NRL has made little money in the last 10-20 years. They've lived of the smell of a oily rag while the leaches at News Ltd Nrl sucked them dry. But after barely 18 months there back at the top of the tree, like they were 20 years ago when News Limited took the game over. They've gone past the AFL in most
categories. The Storm being the highest rating club on ptv is just the latest in a number of nock-out blows being landed by the NRL on the AFL. Were will they expand? They will pay off Debt thats what they will do until they eventually wither & die.

pussy cat you have totaly no idea.
leagues clubs fund the NRL clubs
where will the NRL expand. another shire in NSW? another team playing in front of 7k crowds.

the NRL is light years away from the AFL.

pussycat wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

pussycat wrote:

read it and weep? - Our profit was 3x that of yours because we don't have the costs and expenses of your mob . Expences and extra costs that you somehow see as a good thing - D's brainwashing really runs deep in this one.

Same ol same ol - your profits tell me how much profits have the NRL made in the last 10 yrs???? 50 mil that's all - AFL has dipped just twice in that time when they built from scratch two new clubs - and the NRL no expansion in sight falling crowds AND TV - clubs without a major sponsor and having to go cap in hand to touch to make them even remotely relevant participation wise!!! Yes enjoy your profit - meanwhile AFL will continue to expand pour money into development and build - the future so bright we have to wear shades !!

As you point out the NRL has made little money in the last 10-20 years. They've lived of the smell of a oily rag while the leaches at News Ltd Nrl sucked them dry. But after barely 18 months there back at the top of the tree, like they were 20 years ago when News Limited took the game over. They've gone past the AFL in most
categories. The Storm being the highest rating club on ptv is just the latest in a number of nock-out blows being landed by the NRL on the AFL. Were will they expand? They will pay off Debt thats what they will do until they eventually wither & die.

Pussycat what are you smoking for god sake - NRL less than half the crowd, less than half the membership, 100mil less revenue NRL only has creditable participation numbers in QLD/NSW every other state it's a joke, less sponsorship and overall really going backwards - now no expansion at the very earliest until 2017 - another 3 yrs for the AFL to bed down - give up the weed pussycat your delusional!

pussycat wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

pussycat wrote:

read it and weep? - Our profit was 3x that of yours because we don't have the costs and expenses of your mob . Expences and extra costs that you somehow see as a good thing - D's brainwashing really runs deep in this one.

Same ol same ol - your profits tell me how much profits have the NRL made in the last 10 yrs???? 50 mil that's all - AFL has dipped just twice in that time when they built from scratch two new clubs - and the NRL no expansion in sight falling crowds AND TV - clubs without a major sponsor and having to go cap in hand to touch to make them even remotely relevant participation wise!!! Yes enjoy your profit - meanwhile AFL will continue to expand pour money into development and build - the future so bright we have to wear shades !!

As you point out the NRL has made little money in the last 10-20 years. They've lived of the smell of a oily rag while the leaches at News Ltd Nrl sucked them dry. But after barely 18 months there back at the top of the tree, like they were 20 years ago when News Limited took the game over. They've gone past the AFL in most
categories. The Storm being the highest rating club on ptv is just the latest in a number of nock-out blows being landed by the NRL on the AFL. Were will they expand? They will pay off Debt thats what they will do until they eventually wither & die.

This is just about the silliest post I have seen on this forum. As others have said, less than half the attendance, less than 1/3 the memberships, far less revenue, far less media interest. As for the storm, they are averaging less crowds than ANY AFL team in the same city.

Crowds , thats it . That all you've got . And , in the end, that counts for zip. Revenue, :_<> :_<> :_<> No one is disputing you have greater revenue, but you also have many more expenses. Thats why we made a profit last yeasr x3 thee size of yours. As far as media interest goes your talking out of your arse.

PTV - we kick you but, FTA - we kick your but - Technology - we kick your butt .

Most of our teams are owned by mega rich millionairs or hollywood movie stars. most of your clubs are insolvent or just managing to break even with pokie money - rely on handouts to survive

D seen the writing on the wall. D is leaving his cushy $3.8m jobs because he knows the AFL has no future. He doesn't want to be any where near when the myths and bullshit he's been feeding you mushrooms for years are finaly exposed. Like a Rat leaving a sinking ship.


Crowds and but but excuses - thats all you've got- even on your favourite subject - your crowds have fallen 20% in the last 5 or 6 years , while our have remained steady.

The_Wookie wrote:

Thats why NRL clubs arent going on about crowds and memberships right? because they are worth zip. ok then. We have greater expense...AFTER distributions to reserve funds - thats money in the bank. We give more money to clubs over and above predictions because the we CAN, not because we have to - thats 1.2 million in bonus payments per club, per year since 1997 if you are playing at home. You made a profit because you didnt have a reserve fund of any any kind, where the AFL is sitting on a single fund worth 90 million, and that doesnt count infrastructure and partnership funds.[

Well maybe Zip is a slight exageration on my part. but not worth anything like incessant blabber your lot go on about. This battle of the codes will not be determined by crowds and membership numbers . And that is our most success full area of domination. -7 of the top 40 shows nationally.

Our matches outrate your matches, On both FTA and PTV! we only have 3 league shows on tv - No main channel but Mattys show out rates 2 or 3 of yours combined. The only reason you were given your own channel was because subscription numbers where so poor. The move was simply an enticement from Fox to try and counteract the total lack of interest shown by AFL viewers.

not overall, raw data... more but but excuses. - We outrate rate you game , full stop'.... The fact that you try to compare 3 or 4 life games to 1 only shows how desperate you lot are,

I will enjoy the outstanding success our Melbourne numbers - hope you enjoy your silver medal.


You believe what you like , but I prefer to believe a much credible Source - straight from the horses mouth. Grant said double the previous contract- $90m.

Also You are also ignoring the partnership the NRL has with Telsta - overt 2million downloads in the first 6 months

D seen the writing on the wall. D is leaving his cushy $3.8m jobs because he knows the AFL has no future. He doesn't want to be any where near when the myths and bullshit he's been feeding you mushrooms for years are finaly exposed. Like a Rat leaving a sinking ship.

The truth obviously hurts and its just 18 months on.

pussycat wrote:

The_Wookie wrote:

Thats why NRL clubs arent going on about crowds and memberships right? because they are worth zip. ok then. We have greater expense...AFTER distributions to reserve funds - thats money in the bank. We give more money to clubs over and above predictions because the we CAN, not because we have to - thats 1.2 million in bonus payments per club, per year since 1997 if you are playing at home. You made a profit because you didnt have a reserve fund of any any kind, where the AFL is sitting on a single fund worth 90 million, and that doesnt count infrastructure and partnership funds.[

Well maybe Zip is a slight exageration on my part. but worth anything like incessant blabber your lot blabber. This battle of the codes will not be determined by crowds and membership numbers . And that is our most success full area of domination. -7 of the top 40 shows nationally.

Our matches outrate your matches, On both FTA and PTV! we only have 3 league shows on tv - No main channel but Mattys show out rates 2 or 3 of yours combined. The only reason you were given your own channel was because subscription numbers where so poor.

not overall, raw data... more but but excuses.

I will enjoy the outstanding success our Melbourne numbers are having - hope you enjoy your silver medal.


You believe wat you like , but I prefer to believe a much credible Source - straight from the horses mouth. Grant ssid double the previous $90m. You are also ignoring the partnership the NRL has with Telsta - overt 2million downloads in the first 6 months

D seen the writing on the wall. D is leaving his cushy $3.8m jobs because he knows the AFL has no future. He doesn't want to be any where near when the myths and bullshit he's been feeding you mushrooms for years are finaly exposed. Like a Rat leaving a sinking ship.

The truth obviously hurts and just 18 months on.

Perhaps you should find some fantasy thread on LU because your not in reality - if you can't get people to become members or go to games - what's going to happen when live streaming completely eclipses ptv and FTA - if you don't have a solid base of fans attending how will you convince others to watch - what happens if ptv and FTA bid less on the next TV rights deal - that profit you made in one year is soon wiped out! Your obviously very nieve because the NRL are trying to grow the two things your saying doesn't matter! You look very stupid!

Well Pussycat obviously doesnt agree with the NRL CEO who said:"Wind the clock forward five years and we will be the biggest sporting community in the country," Smith said

Well, he has obviously conceded the NRL is currently second!!!

I'll let Patrick Smith deal out some reality:

I’ll be frank with you David. The reason you are here at Reality House today is because you made a right git of yourself on Monday.

Look, here at RH we like ambition and optimism. A bit of get up and go. Ticker, spirit. Guts is an ugly word but you get the picture.

Nonetheless can I take you to The Australian newspaper and in particular some of your comments? This is where it gets a bit sticky for you, old chap.

Take this bit: “Rugby league is poised in a way it’s never been poised before and the progress and momentum we’re creating will make this game stronger and healthier than it’s ever been before. Wind the clock forward five years and we’ll be the biggest sporting community in Australia.” Before we talk about those observations David, you would tell us if you were on medication wouldn’t you? Prone to mood swings? We know you are not because you have done a very good job since taking over the NRL but David, David, David what were you thinking? You were thinking weren’t you?

The NRL has one team in Victoria and none in South Australia or Western Australia. And from that base you will be the biggest sporting community in Australia? Dear God, David.

And then what about this? By 2017 you will double club membership from its current number of 228,000 to 400,000. Now, David, this little thing is called a calculator. You need to get the hang of it quickly. Last year, that’s last year, David the AFL club membership was 756,717. Do you understand what that means?

Or what about this: increasing average crowds from 13,000 to 20,000 by 2017. The AFL’s average crowd last year? 32,163. Or this: increasing participation rates from 555,000 to 700,000. David, the AFL’s participation rate last year was 938,069.

And did you have to talk about social media? Really, David, social media? You want to increase the spread in 2017 to 5.8 million. Last year the AFL had 69.7 million unique visits.

The NRL isnt even close, and wont be even if Smith bold predictions come true. And unfortunately for the NRL theyve started this year with lowest attendances in a decade.

This knobs ignorance is highlighted when he puts the NRL's average crowd figure at 1300 - his credibility is reduced to Zero right there. -

Another mushroom struggling to face reality :<> :<> :<>

Yes, nrl is as big as AFL ..... Where's that rolls eyes picture ???

Loving the selective picking of ratings ... We are now excluding the delayed game lol. Maybe the nrl people could break it down to games played at nighr, afternoon games, games played on Sunday, must admit I never predicted that tactic pre season in my excuse the nrl people will make lol. God forbid overall ratings be considered ... Of course loosing that one ...


And pussycat selectively quoting rating figures ??? And he talks of credibility lol

pussycat wrote:

This knobs ignorance is highlighted when he puts the NRL's average crowd figure at 1300 - his credibility is reduced to Zero right there. -

13000, not 1300

His comment are still totally valid though. The AFL dominate every indicator except TV, which is around about even and varies mainly due to scheduling. The AFL had the highest payTV ratings last year with the finals, and the highest H and A FTA with the ANZAC day game. They also won the GF.

The title of the thread is which is the number 1 code? Seriously, are people from the nrl stating that nrl is the number 1 code?

Did not the nrl's own boss say they were aiming to be number 1 ? Ipso facto,,, they are not now ?


But what would he know ???