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They're chalk & cheese fwedFred wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 8:32 amI think the reason to go to Perth, or one of them, is the fact that it is indeed an Aussie rules town with minimal rl - that’s the point - to grow the game and interest in it. It’s the same reason AFL needs to be in western Sydney. I do t think the nrl are trying to take over - just develop a niche market similar to Melbourne .
double headers in of the NRL in Perth do not sell out and you must remember there is a large expat number from he UK and SA and very little support for League and Union at grass roots levelsazif wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 9:07 amThey're chalk & cheese fwedFred wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 8:32 amI think the reason to go to Perth, or one of them, is the fact that it is indeed an Aussie rules town with minimal rl - that’s the point - to grow the game and interest in it. It’s the same reason AFL needs to be in western Sydney. I do t think the nrl are trying to take over - just develop a niche market similar to Melbourne .
When was the last time a grants game got 60K to a game in Western Sydney without the swines playing ?
the sold out origin in Perth in 2 weeks will be RL's 3rd since 2019
the NRL is an easy sell to Perth , the city has an abundance of " normal" people who already followed the game & have zip interest in fumbling & missing
Western Sydney has no fumbleball fans .... none & even after 13 years of extra assistance , leg ups & success for the grants
they still have
sweet F all ,
GWS has been a spectacular ... extraordinary failure
makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 9:53 amdouble headers in of the NRL in Perth do not sell out and you must remember there is a large expat number from he UK and SA and very little support for League and Union at grass roots levelsazif wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 9:07 amThey're chalk & cheese fwedFred wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 8:32 amI think the reason to go to Perth, or one of them, is the fact that it is indeed an Aussie rules town with minimal rl - that’s the point - to grow the game and interest in it. It’s the same reason AFL needs to be in western Sydney. I do t think the nrl are trying to take over - just develop a niche market similar to Melbourne .
When was the last time a grants game got 60K to a game in Western Sydney without the swines playing ?
the sold out origin in Perth in 2 weeks will be RL's 3rd since 2019
the NRL is an easy sell to Perth , the city has an abundance of " normal" people who already followed the game & have zip interest in fumbling & missing
Western Sydney has no fumbleball fans .... none & even after 13 years of extra assistance , leg ups & success for the grants
they still have
sweet F all ,
GWS has been a spectacular ... extraordinary failure
you mock the AFL in western Sydney yet more kids from western Sydney have played or playing AFL at the highest level than kids recruited from Melbourne to play for the Storm or NRL in general
again when more people show up to a game than apparently watch on tv something you like to point out then ignore the case for the Storm, is a unless indication
you mock the AFL in western Sydney yet more kids from western Sydney have played or playing AFL at the highest level than kids recruited from Melbourne to play for the Storm or NRL in general
I did reply spambot , you gormless twitmakingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:27 amso thats a no you cant reply!
more people from western Sydney play or have played AFL than kids from Victoria! so grass roots for AFL in western Sydney is rapidly out growing League in Melbourne!
one of games are different than regular weekend events. look at the lack of people that play league in WA! btw double headers! LMAO
expats from the UK and SA will watch the odd game, thats about all
more players have been recruited from Western Sydney than players from Melbourne despite the Storm being round far longer than that says a lot about how things are going at grass roots level! i know it doesn't suit your argument and you will ignore it and dribble out the usual non sense! they are the facts as much as you dont want to believe itazif wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:55 amI did reply spambot , you gormless twitmakingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:27 amso thats a no you cant reply!
more people from western Sydney play or have played AFL than kids from Victoria! so grass roots for AFL in western Sydney is rapidly out growing League in Melbourne!
one of games are different than regular weekend events. look at the lack of people that play league in WA! btw double headers! LMAO
expats from the UK and SA will watch the odd game, thats about all
almost no one stumbles fumbles & misses in singlets in Western Sydney .... its behind every sport in that region including synchronized farting
RL has multi times more players in Dumbourne
makingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 1:13 pmmore players have been recruited from Western Sydney than players from Melbourne despite the Storm being round far longer than that says a lot about how things are going at grass roots level! i know it doesn't suit your argument and you will ignore it and dribble out the usual non sense! they are the facts as much as you dont want to believe itazif wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:55 amI did reply spambot , you gormless twitmakingnrlfansgowacko wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:27 amso thats a no you cant reply!
more people from western Sydney play or have played AFL than kids from Victoria! so grass roots for AFL in western Sydney is rapidly out growing League in Melbourne!
one of games are different than regular weekend events. look at the lack of people that play league in WA! btw double headers! LMAO
expats from the UK and SA will watch the odd game, thats about all
almost no one stumbles fumbles & misses in singlets in Western Sydney .... its behind every sport in that region including synchronized farting
RL has multi times more players in Dumbourne
Fred wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 1:51 pmI had to look that up whacko - and did a quick search
AI gave me this (so take it with the skepticism that comes with using AI as a source).
Several players recruited from the Western Sydney area have made it to the AFL. Notable examples include Kieren Briggs and Nick Shipley, both of whom are GWS Giants Academy graduates and currently on the Giants' AFL list. James Peatling, a mid-season draftee, also hails from Western Sydney and is another GWS Giants Academy graduate. Other players recruited from the region include Jake Brown and James Bell, who were drafted to the Sydney Swans. Jack Buckley and Nick Shipley were drafted by the GWS Giants. AFL Sydney also mentions Jarrod Brander (West Coast Eagles), Charlie Spargo (Melbourne), and Doulton Langlands (St Kilda) as players from the region drafted in 2017.
not sure how many players who came up through the victorian RL as juniors have been recruited to an NRL team though.
Another quick search and found this -article - 1 year old though. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... al-players
Ahead of the NRL season which sees the return of State of Origin to Melbourne for the first time since 2018, Storm forward Christian Welch said the club’s record of producing junior talent was “probably not good enough to be honest”.
“The reality is, we’re 25, 26 years old,” he said. “We’ve had five Victorian men’s players.”
The Storm’s head of pathways, Tim Glasby, echoed his sentiment. “We’re really disappointed that we haven’t had more,” he said. “Five in 25 years isn’t enough.”
to be honest I'm surprised it is as high as five - but also - thisi s just playing for the storm - maybe there are other teams that have recruited from victoria - but not someone who moved to victoria as a 16 year old who has played rl all his (vice versa re: AFL players from western sydney) but a home grown/developed talent.
Fred wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 1:51 pmI had to look that up whacko - and did a quick search
AI gave me this (so take it with the skepticism that comes with using AI as a source).
Several players recruited from the Western Sydney area have made it to the AFL. Notable examples include Kieren Briggs and Nick Shipley, both of whom are GWS Giants Academy graduates and currently on the Giants' AFL list. James Peatling, a mid-season draftee, also hails from Western Sydney and is another GWS Giants Academy graduate. Other players recruited from the region include Jake Brown and James Bell, who were drafted to the Sydney Swans. Jack Buckley and Nick Shipley were drafted by the GWS Giants. AFL Sydney also mentions Jarrod Brander (West Coast Eagles), Charlie Spargo (Melbourne), and Doulton Langlands (St Kilda) as players from the region drafted in 2017.
not sure how many players who came up through the victorian RL as juniors have been recruited to an NRL team though.
Another quick search and found this -article - 1 year old though. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... al-players
Ahead of the NRL season which sees the return of State of Origin to Melbourne for the first time since 2018, Storm forward Christian Welch said the club’s record of producing junior talent was “probably not good enough to be honest”.
“The reality is, we’re 25, 26 years old,” he said. “We’ve had five Victorian men’s players.”
The Storm’s head of pathways, Tim Glasby, echoed his sentiment. “We’re really disappointed that we haven’t had more,” he said. “Five in 25 years isn’t enough.”
to be honest I'm surprised it is as high as five - but also - thisi s just playing for the storm - maybe there are other teams that have recruited from victoria - but not someone who moved to victoria as a 16 year old who has played rl all his (vice versa re: AFL players from western sydney) but a home grown/developed talent.
yes quite right TezTerry wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 2:39 pmFred wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 1:51 pmI had to look that up whacko - and did a quick search
AI gave me this (so take it with the skepticism that comes with using AI as a source).
Several players recruited from the Western Sydney area have made it to the AFL. Notable examples include Kieren Briggs and Nick Shipley, both of whom are GWS Giants Academy graduates and currently on the Giants' AFL list. James Peatling, a mid-season draftee, also hails from Western Sydney and is another GWS Giants Academy graduate. Other players recruited from the region include Jake Brown and James Bell, who were drafted to the Sydney Swans. Jack Buckley and Nick Shipley were drafted by the GWS Giants. AFL Sydney also mentions Jarrod Brander (West Coast Eagles), Charlie Spargo (Melbourne), and Doulton Langlands (St Kilda) as players from the region drafted in 2017.
not sure how many players who came up through the victorian RL as juniors have been recruited to an NRL team though.
Another quick search and found this -article - 1 year old though. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... al-players
Ahead of the NRL season which sees the return of State of Origin to Melbourne for the first time since 2018, Storm forward Christian Welch said the club’s record of producing junior talent was “probably not good enough to be honest”.
“The reality is, we’re 25, 26 years old,” he said. “We’ve had five Victorian men’s players.”
The Storm’s head of pathways, Tim Glasby, echoed his sentiment. “We’re really disappointed that we haven’t had more,” he said. “Five in 25 years isn’t enough.”
to be honest I'm surprised it is as high as five - but also - thisi s just playing for the storm - maybe there are other teams that have recruited from victoria - but not someone who moved to victoria as a 16 year old who has played rl all his (vice versa re: AFL players from western sydney) but a home grown/developed talent.
Fred, there is a glaring difference here pal. The AFL can recruit players that have never seen, let alone played, the mess and turn 'em into superstars overnight.
That's because it is a simple limited skill game with few rules and/or need for athletic ability. Exhibit 1. the lanky Yank who was a practice partner for a womens basketball team in the USA. Never seen a game. Never heard of it. Never played a game. Comes to Australia. Becomes an AFL superstar. Simple.
They do the same with Sydney kids. They scout a lanky kid, pay 'em a bucket load of money and quick smart turn 'em into an AFL 'standard' player. Such is the simplicity of the fumbling mess.
NRL clubs can't do that. To be a competent RL player you need years of intense training, playing and coaching. Melbourne would have to get kids at 7or 8 and keep 'em for 10 years to get 'em up to NRL standard. And if they live in Victoria it is so much easier to play the simple mess of the Australian Fumbling League.
Hope this helps Fred. Have a great day pal.
pretty much ( they will develop a decent market straight off the bat)Fred wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 8:32 amI think the reason to go to Perth, or one of them, is the fact that it is indeed an Aussie rules town with minimal rl - that’s the point - to grow the game and interest in it. It’s the same reason AFL needs to be in western Sydney. I do t think the nrl are trying to take over - just develop a niche market similar to Melbourne or wha the swans and lions have in their cities.