Talking Footy

well Im certainly not surprised you started this thread puddy. You've got every reason to ignore the crowds and ratings today

pussycat wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

pussycat wrote:

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

What is worse ? the banner or the people who don'y think it's racist???????????????

or the people who dont understand the difference between racial and religious vilification?

So one white parent and booing Adam Goodes isn't racism?
Spot the Ausie . a a err aah,

racist.

You are very confused let me spell it out.
Anglo Saxon boss denies Asian man a job because he's Asian = racist
Anglo Saxon Christian denies Anglo Saxon Muslim a job due to his faith = not racist, certainly intolerant and discrimination but not racist because he is not offering him the job because of his skin colour but the other persons beliefs. Whether you agree or disagree with the statement it doesn't make it racist. But its not really the question whether it is racist rather whether it was appropriate for it to be at a football game. Considering both the AFL uses the game as a platform to express their opinions maybe they have to expect contrary views to be expressed even if the majority disagree.

With attitudes like this is it any wonder racism is rampant within the AFL !

with such a stupid simple mind its a no brainer why you follow such a simple game of league

AFL slams racist fans over anti-Muslim banner

but but but why shouldn't we use our pitchforks >

pussycat wrote:

AFL slams racist fans over anti-Muslim banner

but but but why shouldn't we use our pitchforks >

you honestly dont know the difference between racial and religious vilification? Honestly?

So Associated press are also wrong? How deluded are you'se people.

Its like speaking up for multiculturalism at a clan rally.

pussycat wrote:

So Associated press are also wrong? How deluded are you'se people.

Its like speaking up for multiculturalism at a clan rally.

yeah, they are. Mosques are unique to a faith, not a race. How are you not getting this??

pussycat wrote:

So Associated press are also wrong? How deluded are you'se people.

Its like speaking up for multiculturalism at a clan rally.

Sooooooeverything in a paper is truth? Fact is racism is being discrimat towards a different race - the fact is that it is against a belief not another race. Why can't you understand such a Simple premise??

Pussycat just got put back in his place by everyone. Pointless thread.

He keeps dodging everyones posts.

Owned in his own thread.

Hate towards a religion is not racism. Why do some people get confused with the two? Islam has 100s of different races following the religion and the hate is regarding the religion not the races that follow it. Get it right. So simple to see the big differences.

Racism is hate towards a particular race of people or races because of their race/races.

Disgusting stuff. AFL fans showing their true colours once more. Now they've booed an aboriginal anti racism campaigner legend out of the game they've moved onto Muslims.

Muslims and anyone who is not of Caucasian appearance are often not welcome in AFL crowds. It's a pity, sports should be activities in which all colours and creeds are welcomed. Unfortunately This just ain't the case with the AFL.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Disgusting stuff. AFL fans showing their true colours once more. Now they've booed an aboriginal anti racism campaigner legend out of the game they've moved onto Muslims.

Muslims and anyone who is not of Caucasian appearance are often not welcome in AFL crowds. It's a pity, sports should be activities in which all colours and creeds are welcomed. Unfortunately This just ain't the case with the AFL.

Again? Can you show me a similar incident in the past?

These clowns werent AFL fans, they were political activists. They werent even there to watch the game. They went straight to the base of the scoreboard to display their banner. This is about the worst place to watch the game. They werent there to watch it, they were there to spread a message only

Xman wrote:

King-Eliagh wrote:

Disgusting stuff. AFL fans showing their true colours once more. Now they've booed an aboriginal anti racism campaigner legend out of the game they've moved onto Muslims.

Muslims and anyone who is not of Caucasian appearance are often not welcome in AFL crowds. It's a pity, sports should be activities in which all colours and creeds are welcomed. Unfortunately This just ain't the case with the AFL.

Again? Can you show me a similar incident in the past?

These clowns werent AFL fans, they were political activists. They werent even there to watch the game. They went straight to the base of the scoreboard to display their banner. This is about the worst place to watch the game. They werent there to watch it, they were there to spread a message only

the activists flogs wanted their message to be seen to they went to an AFL game, to have their message heard at an NRLOL game, they would have needed to have done something more drastic like burn some of the stadium down, to be noticed

Swans4ever wrote:

pussycat wrote:

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

What is worse ? the banner or the people who don'y think it's racist???????????????

or the people who dont understand the difference between racial and religious vilification?

So one white parent and booing Adam Goodes isn't racism?
Spot the Ausie . a a err aah,

racist.

You are very confused let me spell it out.
Anglo Saxon boss denies Asian man a job because he's Asian = racist
Anglo Saxon Christian denies Anglo Saxon Muslim a job due to his faith = not racist, certainly intolerant and discrimination but not racist because he is not offering him the job because of his skin colour but the other persons beliefs. Whether you agree or disagree with the statement it doesn't make it racist. But its not really the question whether it is racist rather whether it was appropriate for it to be at a football game. Considering both the AFL uses the game as a platform to express their opinions maybe they have to expect contrary views to be expressed even if the majority disagree.

You are arguing semantics, one could use bigoted, one could claim vilification, but these are simply words to describe a larger subset of discrimination. Does it really matter if the term racism is used? It is all discrimination based on someone who is perceived to be different from yourself.

I find it more concerning that you are wanting to argue the point of racism rather than the actual despicable attitude of the people who unfurled the banner

Collingwood v Richmond: Stop the mosque banner fans ...



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/...fans.../ ... 7a4890eadd
3 days ago - AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan said the banner was deeply offensive, and ... Footy fans on social media were outraged at the racist banner being ...

It would seem the that people here are trying to deflect from the real issue here. Whatever form of discrimination this is is not the hardly relevant. The AFL and there fans have a long history of this type of behaviour.

post_hoc wrote:

Swans4ever wrote:

pussycat wrote:

Xman wrote:

pussycat wrote:

What is worse ? the banner or the people who don'y think it's racist???????????????

or the people who dont understand the difference between racial and religious vilification?

So one white parent and booing Adam Goodes isn't racism?
Spot the Ausie . a a err aah,

racist.

You are very confused let me spell it out.
Anglo Saxon boss denies Asian man a job because he's Asian = racist
Anglo Saxon Christian denies Anglo Saxon Muslim a job due to his faith = not racist, certainly intolerant and discrimination but not racist because he is not offering him the job because of his skin colour but the other persons beliefs. Whether you agree or disagree with the statement it doesn't make it racist. But its not really the question whether it is racist rather whether it was appropriate for it to be at a football game. Considering both the AFL uses the game as a platform to express their opinions maybe they have to expect contrary views to be expressed even if the majority disagree.

You are arguing semantics, one could use bigoted, one could claim vilification, but these are simply words to describe a larger subset of discrimination. Does it really matter if the term racism is used? It is all discrimination based on someone who is perceived to be different from yourself.

I find it more concerning that you are wanting to argue the point of racism rather than the actual despicable attitude of the people who unfurled the banner

The fact of the matter is that the Nth Melb cheer squad unfurled a banner in a prelim about refugees being allowed to stay, (and I am not suggesting it was offensive), no one objected, the AFL has used its games to promote political agendas, so you can't have it both ways, you can't claim freedom of speech to only hear what you want to hear. But to use the race card (which is a way of slandering a person legally it seems) must be the lowest way to get your point across. If pussy had said AFL fans were intolerant towards Muslims or discriminating towards Muslims his argument would have the same impact because we have a right to have different opinions aren't we. But he didn't and he used the term racist to vilify AFL fans, so how about the Aboriginal or Asian or Middle eastern fans who came to this country to escape persecution by Muslim's and support this sentiment - are they also racist??? No they aren't it's not semantics - by all means ban politically motivated banners but ban them all - that is my point. I take exception to use of the racist word just to garner support!