Talking Footy

Xman wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Plus Foxtel .
Lol
About 1/3 of FTA .
So all up ....drum roll please .

About 19 k..
& why am I surprised .
I'm not surprised .
Im just laughing at the usual Talking up of an AFL team ..
Reality is far different .

talk up? Who ever said the giants were world beaters? The thread is how they are on the move, not leading the comp

What is the name of that Paul Kelly song?

Oh, yea. "From Little Things Big Things Grow".

Now Crapper has to understand: The seed was very small, but it has germinated and is now growing confidently as a juvenile.

Nobody is going to pull it out and throw it away. Sorry to dash your hopes, Crapper.

And we don't care how long it takes to become a monster but it will sooner or later because it said so on the packet.

Sure it did .
Drink the koolaid .

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Sure it did .
Drink the koolaid .

Just at vastly different speeds
GWS 4 years of getting flogged each week
Western Sydney based nrlol clubs 60 years

To be of similar sizes

Similar sizes .
Lol

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Similar sizes .
Lol

I can't help it - "you can smell the fear!" Quote from crapper!

leagueiscrap wrote:

four years and about 13 wins and the Giants are starting to out draw the west's Tuggers
in western Sydney NRLOL so called heart land


so whats going to happen when they start to win a few more games

Starting to outdraw?

According to season averages GWS are still 3,000 below the average of West Tigers in Sydney and even lower when you throw in ACT games.

So I would check the facts before crowing

Lol .
The fumblers don't let the truth get in the way of some good bullshit .

post_hoc wrote:

leagueiscrap wrote:

four years and about 13 wins and the Giants are starting to out draw the west's Tuggers
in western Sydney NRLOL so called heart land


so whats going to happen when they start to win a few more games

Starting to outdraw?

According to season averages GWS are still 3,000 below the average of West Tigers in Sydney and even lower when you throw in ACT games.

So I would check the facts before crowing

Good luck with that Posthoc, i would be surprised if any of them know what a fact is besides Wookie..... :_<>

eelofwest wrote:

post_hoc wrote:

leagueiscrap wrote:

four years and about 13 wins and the Giants are starting to out draw the west's Tuggers
in western Sydney NRLOL so called heart land


so whats going to happen when they start to win a few more games

Starting to outdraw?

According to season averages GWS are still 3,000 below the average of West Tigers in Sydney and even lower when you throw in ACT games.

So I would check the facts before crowing

Good luck with that Posthoc, i would be surprised if any of them know what a fact is besides Wookie..... :_<>

here's some: http://afltables.com/AFL/crowds/summary.html
GWS 9569k average for 2015
Manly 9111 average for 2015

you're

BruceOfRedfernNSW wrote:

Xman wrote:

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Plus Foxtel .
Lol
About 1/3 of FTA .
So all up ....drum roll please .

About 19 k..
& why am I surprised .
I'm not surprised .
Im just laughing at the usual Talking up of an AFL team ..
Reality is far different .

talk up? Who ever said the giants were world beaters? The thread is how they are on the move, not leading the comp

What is the name of that Paul Kelly song?

Oh, yea. "From Little Things Big Things Grow".

Now Crapper has to understand: The seed was very small, but it has germinated and is now growing confidently as a juvenile.

Nobody is going to pull it out and throw it away. Sorry to dash your hopes, Crapper.

And we don't care how long it takes to become a monster but it will sooner or later because it said so on the packet.

=D> :_<> =D>

This is classic!

Ok lemme break it on down like James brown for yA bro

From gws day dot the AFL world said "omg when these gws kids grow up they're gunne be ssssccaaarrry!"

From gws day dot I said, "gws will need to lose atleast half of their snotty nosed teens before they'll be competitive".

That day is nearly here with atleast 6 actual AFL players inserted into the gws team.

What the AFL and its fans don't seem to be aware of is that seed that's germinating is a noxious weed sucking other clubs and the AFL dry of human and financial resources. Queue in the blithering basketcaSe league the subsidiary comp running at the bottom six of the AFL. Queue in the most lopsided professional sporting competition in Australia, possibly in all australias history, and possibly the world

Gdubbyaes - the noxious weed the AFL head honchos and fans just don't wanna see

Well instead of just throwing a few cranky pants statements how's about contributing some eh wookie? How's about tell us what % of those human resource kidlings gws has actually held onto in their starting lineup? How's about you tell us the amount of dollars the AFL has put into to set gws up?

Jesus, does this guy know anything about the AFL or what?

I know the AFL say the GWS are a slow burn, they are there for the long haul etc, will they be competitive? No doubt the AFL is structured so they will eventually get there. Will Western Sydney "fall in love" I really don't think so, I just don't see western sydney kids flocking to play AFL, some will especially sons of former south of the border.

But AFL in the southern states is a cult, families live and breath it, kids play kick to kick at school etc etc. Sydney from my knowledge and Brisbane from my guessing, is simply not like that, even Rugby League isn't that tribal (for the most part) in my house I grew up following Parra, rest of the family followed St George, why? well lived in Western Sydney, played Rugby League for a school that produced players for Parra, played junior rep wearing parra colours etc etc. Not very common in Melbourne I believe it would be like 1 member following Carlton whilst the rest followed St Kilda.

Sydney isn't tribal like that, many many parents that grew up following and playing Rugby league have kids playing Football (soccer), some play both Rugby League and Football in this country are not a cult like AFL are (they are in other countries) but not here.

People may g to watch GWS when they win, they will abandon them when they lose, but they are not the beach head to stake a claim to Western Sydney that the AFL HO think.

post_hoc wrote:

People may g to watch GWS when they win, they will abandon them when they lose, but they are not the beach head to stake a claim to Western Sydney that the AFL HO think.

After having the swans in Sydney for 35 years the AFL would be well aware of this.

So what do the giants need to get as far as members and crowds to be considered successful? The same as the local NRL clubs? More?

I thought the idea was to yes get good crowds financially independent etc, but also develop the grassroots game in western sydney.

Was that not the aim?

post_hoc wrote:

I thought the idea was to yes get good crowds financially independent etc, but also develop the grassroots game in western sydney.

Was that not the aim?

grass roots development, directly relating to the giants, will take decades. Look at the Storm, 17 years of success in Melbourne and we are yet to see any visible signs of growth at grass roots level.

The only real measure we have is how the giants are supported, ie members and crowds. When they rise the club will become financially viable. Again, this took the Storm many years to get near financial stability, if theyve even got that now.

So, what crowds and membership levels do the Giants need to be considered successful?