Talking Footy

leagueiscrap wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Beaussie wrote:

Drac wrote:

haha, isn't it only a 50k seat stadium too? Ouch.

Yep and just imagine how many seats remain unsold at the 85k seat ANZ Stadium for game 2. Ouch indeed

70,000 sold already
so that's about 14,000 unsold ............ a month out
there won't be one left unsold dipshit

& another 4 Million watching on the box

wow

seriously
how inferior to fumblers feel when they are confronted with these numbers
how completely 2nd rate does origin make their code look

its know wonder they have an annual meltdown at Origin time each year :_<> :_<> :_<>

so many bandwagon state vs state, fans
where do they disappear to for every other NRL game that is played

TLPG wrote:

Cracker wrote:

Indeed, Miss Penny. The AFL did have something like it, and let it go.

*applies the brakes*

Oh no you don't, Cracker! I'm not letting that one slide! The AFL didn't just "let it go". The clubs scotched it as I remember, and there were several reasons. For one thing, promoting Victoria v SA would have left WA out in the cold and they made it clear they wanted in on it. A three way on the back of the abject failure of the Allies just wasn't practical. For another, club representation has now pretty much wrecked interest, in that every mainland state is represented. That issue doesn't affect the NRL so much because all the clubs bar Melbourne and New Zealand (and technically Canberra) are in two states. Finally, AFL State of Origin rode on the back of one man - Ted Whitten Snr. When he passed away the enthusiasm for state rivalry finally died combined with the other two reasons.

So it's not a case of the AFL "let it go". The fact is we don't need it anymore. Swans came up with an idea that might work, but really the interest just won't be there to get it off the ground. The AFL is club orientated and that's a contributing factor in my opinion to the AFL's much higher crowd average.

Cracker wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Cracker wrote:

Indeed, Miss Penny. The AFL did have something like it, and let it go.

*applies the brakes*

Oh no you don't, Cracker! I'm not letting that one slide! The AFL didn't just "let it go". The clubs scotched it as I remember, and there were several reasons. For one thing, promoting Victoria v SA would have left WA out in the cold and they made it clear they wanted in on it. A three way on the back of the abject failure of the Allies just wasn't practical. For another, club representation has now pretty much wrecked interest, in that every mainland state is represented. That issue doesn't affect the NRL so much because all the clubs bar Melbourne and New Zealand (and technically Canberra) are in two states. Finally, AFL State of Origin rode on the back of one man - Ted Whitten Snr. When he passed away the enthusiasm for state rivalry finally died combined with the other two reasons.

So it's not a case of the AFL "let it go". The fact is we don't need it anymore. Swans came up with an idea that might work, but really the interest just won't be there to get it off the ground. The AFL is club orientated and that's a contributing factor in my opinion to the AFL's much higher crowd average.

I think the AFL do need it, but the club factor is relevant. Even in the NRL there are rumblings along those lines due to injuries. But the sheer weight of the event overcomes that. It's as big as the NRL grand final if not even bigger, especially with the biggest hook of the lot - can New South Wales finally top Queensland this year? Back when it was played you could have said the same thing for South Australia against Victoria. Could they top them, especially in Melbourne? I can't believe that was on the back of the late great EJ Whitten only. He only wanted Victoria to win. It took the passion of SA to overcome that, heading up by someone who was just as important - Neil Kerley. This could have been maintained as a legacy. One could put a case that the equally great late Artie Beetson carries a similar legacy from the beginnings of the rugby league version, even though there have been many others.

It is a great money spinner, TLPG, and a ratings king as Raiderdave rightly pointed out.

Cracker wrote:

Did I say coaches? No I did not. I was referring to generalised rumblings.

Cracker wrote:

I wonder if you've looked up how to gain credibility yet?

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Cracker wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Cracker wrote:

Indeed, Miss Penny. The AFL did have something like it, and let it go.

*applies the brakes*

Oh no you don't, Cracker! I'm not letting that one slide! The AFL didn't just "let it go". The clubs scotched it as I remember, and there were several reasons. For one thing, promoting Victoria v SA would have left WA out in the cold and they made it clear they wanted in on it. A three way on the back of the abject failure of the Allies just wasn't practical. For another, club representation has now pretty much wrecked interest, in that every mainland state is represented. That issue doesn't affect the NRL so much because all the clubs bar Melbourne and New Zealand (and technically Canberra) are in two states. Finally, AFL State of Origin rode on the back of one man - Ted Whitten Snr. When he passed away the enthusiasm for state rivalry finally died combined with the other two reasons.

So it's not a case of the AFL "let it go". The fact is we don't need it anymore. Swans came up with an idea that might work, but really the interest just won't be there to get it off the ground. The AFL is club orientated and that's a contributing factor in my opinion to the AFL's much higher crowd average.

I think the AFL do need it, but the club factor is relevant. Even in the NRL there are rumblings along those lines due to injuries. But the sheer weight of the event overcomes that. It's as big as the NRL grand final if not even bigger, especially with the biggest hook of the lot - can New South Wales finally top Queensland this year? Back when it was played you could have said the same thing for South Australia against Victoria. Could they top them, especially in Melbourne? I can't believe that was on the back of the late great EJ Whitten only. He only wanted Victoria to win. It took the passion of SA to overcome that, heading up by someone who was just as important - Neil Kerley. This could have been maintained as a legacy. One could put a case that the equally great late Artie Beetson carries a similar legacy from the beginnings of the rugby league version, even though there have been many others.

It is a great money spinner, TLPG, and a ratings king as Raiderdave rightly pointed out.

Cracker wrote:

The rumblings were a few years ago now. .

TLPG wrote:

Cracker wrote:

TLPG wrote:

Cracker wrote:

Indeed, Miss Penny. The AFL did have something like it, and let it go.

*applies the brakes*

Oh no you don't, Cracker! I'm not letting that one slide! The AFL didn't just "let it go". The clubs scotched it as I remember, and there were several reasons. For one thing, promoting Victoria v SA would have left WA out in the cold and they made it clear they wanted in on it. A three way on the back of the abject failure of the Allies just wasn't practical. For another, club representation has now pretty much wrecked interest, in that every mainland state is represented. That issue doesn't affect the NRL so much because all the clubs bar Melbourne and New Zealand (and technically Canberra) are in two states. Finally, AFL State of Origin rode on the back of one man - Ted Whitten Snr. When he passed away the enthusiasm for state rivalry finally died combined with the other two reasons.

So it's not a case of the AFL "let it go". The fact is we don't need it anymore. Swans came up with an idea that might work, but really the interest just won't be there to get it off the ground. The AFL is club orientated and that's a contributing factor in my opinion to the AFL's much higher crowd average.

I think the AFL do need it, but the club factor is relevant. Even in the NRL there are rumblings along those lines due to injuries. But the sheer weight of the event overcomes that. It's as big as the NRL grand final if not even bigger, especially with the biggest hook of the lot - can New South Wales finally top Queensland this year? Back when it was played you could have said the same thing for South Australia against Victoria. Could they top them, especially in Melbourne? I can't believe that was on the back of the late great EJ Whitten only. He only wanted Victoria to win. It took the passion of SA to overcome that, heading up by someone who was just as important - Neil Kerley. This could have been maintained as a legacy. One could put a case that the equally great late Artie Beetson carries a similar legacy from the beginnings of the rugby league version, even though there have been many others.

It is a great money spinner, TLPG, and a ratings king as Raiderdave rightly pointed out.

When it comes to money spinners during the home and away season, ANZAC Day Collingwood v Essendon holds it's own. The crowds at a lot of the MCG games are huge, with many of them outdrawing thugby league State of Origin purely because the MCG holds more people than the Olympic Stadium. The only time club thugby league games go even close is during the finals and even then it's usually only grand final day.

Sorry - I'll take club games in the AFL over AFL State of Origin any day of the week.

Cracker wrote:

While you should look up things like how to recognise and accept responsbility in certain situations.

Back on the subject, does anyone have an update on ticket sales for next Wednesday's game?

AFLcrap1 wrote:

Cracker wrote:

While you should look up things like how to recognise and accept responsbility in certain situations.

Back on the subject, does anyone have an update on ticket sales for next Wednesday's game?

Oh I accept responsibility ,because I don't insinuate .