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Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 6:59 pm
by Cracker
He won't get off.
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:42 pm
by Fred
AFLcrap1 wrote:Luckily for him it happened in Victardia .
So the legal team will use the sure fire (pardon the pun),get off defence.
Foil cap time lol
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:07 am
by TLPG
I heard that when West Sydney suspended Greene for five weeks (when I would have sacked him) and fined the maximum allowed by the AFLPA, Greene decided to protest it! At a guess he's trying to claim "innocent until proven guilty" but don't quote me on that one!
As far as which incident was worse - there are several ways to look at it. I can see NRLC's point from one angle (the effect on the image of the game) but on the other hand if you looked at it from the view of pure physicality obviously what Greene did was worse. And then if you look at it from the point of view of psychological effects all round it could be argued that Pearce was worse.
If that represents equity, I'll put that forward as a point. But not with confidence I'll admit.
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:10 pm
by Cracker
Public imagery relies more on physicality than anything else, TLPG, and there again it was Greene who was worse. In the cold hard light of day, who really cares about psychology in public imagery? I heard that story about Greene protesting also and I was not very impressed with the Player's Association apparently supporting him when they should have told him off.
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:29 pm
by AFLcrap1
Needs more "IWANNA BE A FIREMAN "defence
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:03 pm
by NRLCrap1
TLPG and Cracker, didn't you read the report? A fricking FEMALE was involved in the incident with Pearce!! That automatically makes Pearce at least on a par with Greene!! Are you two in favour of not protecting females all of a sudden??
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 7:05 pm
by Raiderdave
NRLCrap1 wrote:TLPG and Cracker, didn't you read the report? A fricking FEMALE was involved in the incident with Pearce!! That automatically makes Pearce at least on a par with Greene!! Are you two in favour of not protecting females all of a sudden??
so
having an attempt at touching a females hoo hoo ( & missing ) is the same as kicking a bouncer in the head several times while he was on the ground & defenceless is it ?
the NRL/ Roosters fines the first bloke 20,000 dollars, taken like a man & total acceptance of his wrong doing
the VFL/ Midgets fines the other bloke 5,000 dollars , threatening to appeal & refusing to accept the penalty fitted the crime & general squealing like a little bitch
yeah
that's about where the 2 codes are
one a joke
the other serious about its integrity

Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:18 pm
by Cracker
I tend to agree with Raiderdave to the extent that what Greene did was way worse. I am not in any way suggesting that Pearce should be defended for what he did. In fact the article linked was very vague about what specifically happened, but nevertheless he should have been punished and was.
But with the fine and so on, I agree with TLPG on the involvement on the Player's Association and this is an issue that is outside the AFL's control under the present rules. So Raiderdave is wrong that is reflects directly on the code as a whole. It only reflects on the present rule structure - and it won't be easy to review because of the power the Player's Association has. I honestly think that the NRL players should have something similar in place, if anything to force a better deal in wages.
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:31 pm
by AFLcrap1
Cracker wrote:I tend to agree with Raiderdave to the extent that what Greene did was way worse. I am not in any way suggesting that Pearce should be defended for what he did. In fact the article linked was very vague about what specifically happened, but nevertheless he should have been punished and was.
But with the fine and so on, I agree with TLPG on the involvement on the Player's Association and this is an issue that is outside the AFL's control under the present rules. So Raiderdave is wrong that is reflects directly on the code as a whole. It only reflects on the present rule structure - and it won't be easy to review because of the power the Player's Association has. I honestly think that the NRL players should have something similar in place, if anything to force a better deal in wages.
You can stop pretending to be a RL fan .
It has reached very laughable levels.
You have No fucking idea ,but pretend you do.
http://www.rlpa.com.au/node/30
About the RLPA
Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:40:36
The Rugby League Players Association is a member led organisation that champions the rights, welfare and working conditions of the NRL players.
•Influence: Effectively influence decision makers within the game to enhance the general good of the Players.
•Support: Offer a framework of support services relevant to the needs of members over and above the NRL Administration, NRL Club and Player Agent influence.
•Contribution: Acknowledge and promote the contributions made by our members to the community that enhance the value of the game, NRL Club and as an individual.
•First Choice: Be the first contact point for members seeking advice regarding contracts, employment rights, welfare, education, Player Agents and the transition to post-career life.
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:58 pm
by Cracker
So where were they with Pearce? And where are they on NRL player payments?
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:08 pm
by AFLcrap1
Cracker wrote:So where were they with Pearce? And where are they on NRL player payments?
Stop deflecting (standard derpball tactic).
That has nothing to do with your clueless claim that RL should have a player association.
You were shown up again as having no fucking idea about RL...
But I will answer just to be nice.
Maybe the RLPA thought Pearces penalty was justified..
Not like the wet lettuce leaf AFL approach..
& as for player payments.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-31/n ... ul/5059988
The NRL is preparing to roll out a new-look salary cap by the start of the 2015 season having nearly completed an exhaustive look at ways to improve the current system.
Chief operating officer Jim Doyle and head of football Todd Greenberg have counselled players, clubs, fans, sponsors and player managers before engaging sections of the media on Tuesday to gauge ideas to overhaul the cap and bring it in line with the modern game.
Transfer windows and fees are being considered, while the abolition of the second-tier mechanism to allow clubs to include players outside their top-25 under one cap is almost certain.
In one of the biggest shake-ups to the game since Super League, the NRL is expected to complete its research and submit a blueprint for approval by the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA) by the end of the month.
Allownaces for marquee players are high on the agenda, with the current figure of $600,000 for each club and how it is used under scrutiny.
Veteran players' allowances, which currently involve a $200,000 cap discount for players with eight consecutive years' service with one club, are also being examined.
Discussions have taken place about potentially reducing the number of years served for a player to qualify and spreading it out to more than one player
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:20 pm
by Cracker
I said "something similar in place". That did not mean that there wasn't an association in the NRL at all. What I was calling for was for a stronger association that what there has been.
Now you've come back with something that I wasn't aware of, and that's a good sign for NRL player payments. It's also good for competition, especially in the sense that it will stop any NRL player from jumping to the AFL for a better pay packet like Hunt and Folau did.
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:23 pm
by AFLcrap1
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:30 pm
by Cracker
I felt that I didn't need to say that. Do I have to behave in the way you expect me to in order for you to believe me? I have some important information for you. We are all individuals and we are not sheep.
Let's face it. The punishment given to Pearce was right. So why should I criticise the NRL player's association for not saying anything on that? They shouldn't have and they didn't. So no need to even bring them up. The AFL player's association however were asked to jump on Greene's punishment, so of course they got a mention. That is what led me to refer to their positive effect on player payments as a sideways swipe at the NRL Player's Association's influence on NRL player payments.
I shouldn't need to explain myself to you. But there you go.
Re: Nsw origin player Mitchell Pearce arrested after night o
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:41 pm
by AFLcrap1