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Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:24 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Of course, this game historically only gets a crowd when held outside Sydney, Sydney hasn't turned up for decades.

You seem to forget or don't know would be my bet, the Kangaroos historically (that word again) when playing in Sydney for 70 years at the SCG set all sorts of crowd records. Then Australia started moving away from everyone else in every facit of the game in regards professionalism and everything that goes with it. The other National teams started to go to junk, it all happened around the mid 70's threw to the mid to late 80's.

During this time, there was the odd upset here and there, but Australia did go 16 test matches undefeated and not taking into account the Emus games against the club sides they played while on these tours over the 3 or 4 years. That record is up there with the Test Cricket side.

Over the last 15 years, the International game has seen some tremendous games played that imo and in many others it seems after reading their thoughts at different places that a hellava lot of these games were much much better than anything SOO put up. Yet all these great games were played when it was a series, none of the 1 off test matches since it was reintroduced have been much chop, the kiwis always need a few games to really get into it and have proved this over the last decade by winning a tri nations, a 4 nations and a RLWC, the first time in near 30 years Australia (back in 2005) had lost a series (last one was in France of all places in 1977).

What I'm saying is, it's going to have to take the other nations stepping up on a consistent basis to get the Sydneysiders along to the games again. It's a pity, cause I would've loved to have been around back in days when Australia would play France GB and NZ in Sydney in front of record crowds.

I read a book not that long ago called "champagne rugby" it was about the great French teams that toured Australia in 1951-55 and 60. In one of the chapters, it mentioned the crowds that followed the French team everywhere they went, the night before the first test in Sydney 1951 (First time France had been in Australia) the team where having a feed and a drink at one of the local pubs that was just up the road from the SCG where they were staying. After they called closing time, the hundreds in the pub left and the french team was the last of the ppl there. A couple of the players decided to go for a walk and have a smoke, when they got outside the pub, they looked towards the SCG and all they could see was something like thousands of fire flies buzzing around in the SCG. One of the French players asked a local who was walking past what those strange lights were that were coming from the SCG, the man turned to the French guys and said, that's the people getting in early for the big match tomorrow, they're all just having a smoke. There was already over 10,000 in the SCG the night before the First test.

Doesn't help when NZ have a coach that seems to have no clue whasoever.
So what your telling me is international RL is effectively insignificant in Syndey, RL's largest heartland city. In fact its way less significant than a domestic Aussie Rules competition in Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne
Insignificant ? :?>

:_<> :_<>
:(/

When 600, 000 of them watch a sporting event Id say not


No

Insignificant would be a sport that can only attract 50, 000

Eg
The fumbles & bumbles :cool:
10 times what the NRL rated In Melbourne on Sunday

So what's YOUR prediction Dave? 50k for the RL international? 40k? Surely a match like this couldnt attract a smaller crowd

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:20 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Of course, this game historically only gets a crowd when held outside Sydney, Sydney hasn't turned up for decades.

You seem to forget or don't know would be my bet, the Kangaroos historically (that word again) when playing in Sydney for 70 years at the SCG set all sorts of crowd records. Then Australia started moving away from everyone else in every facit of the game in regards professionalism and everything that goes with it. The other National teams started to go to junk, it all happened around the mid 70's threw to the mid to late 80's.

During this time, there was the odd upset here and there, but Australia did go 16 test matches undefeated and not taking into account the Emus games against the club sides they played while on these tours over the 3 or 4 years. That record is up there with the Test Cricket side.

Over the last 15 years, the International game has seen some tremendous games played that imo and in many others it seems after reading their thoughts at different places that a hellava lot of these games were much much better than anything SOO put up. Yet all these great games were played when it was a series, none of the 1 off test matches since it was reintroduced have been much chop, the kiwis always need a few games to really get into it and have proved this over the last decade by winning a tri nations, a 4 nations and a RLWC, the first time in near 30 years Australia (back in 2005) had lost a series (last one was in France of all places in 1977).

What I'm saying is, it's going to have to take the other nations stepping up on a consistent basis to get the Sydneysiders along to the games again. It's a pity, cause I would've loved to have been around back in days when Australia would play France GB and NZ in Sydney in front of record crowds.

I read a book not that long ago called "champagne rugby" it was about the great French teams that toured Australia in 1951-55 and 60. In one of the chapters, it mentioned the crowds that followed the French team everywhere they went, the night before the first test in Sydney 1951 (First time France had been in Australia) the team where having a feed and a drink at one of the local pubs that was just up the road from the SCG where they were staying. After they called closing time, the hundreds in the pub left and the french team was the last of the ppl there. A couple of the players decided to go for a walk and have a smoke, when they got outside the pub, they looked towards the SCG and all they could see was something like thousands of fire flies buzzing around in the SCG. One of the French players asked a local who was walking past what those strange lights were that were coming from the SCG, the man turned to the French guys and said, that's the people getting in early for the big match tomorrow, they're all just having a smoke. There was already over 10,000 in the SCG the night before the First test.

Doesn't help when NZ have a coach that seems to have no clue whasoever.
So what your telling me is international RL is effectively insignificant in Syndey, RL's largest heartland city. In fact its way less significant than a domestic Aussie Rules competition in Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne
Insignificant ? :?>

:_<> :_<>
:(/

When 600, 000 of them watch a sporting event Id say not


No

Insignificant would be a sport that can only attract 50, 000

Eg
The fumbles & bumbles :cool:
10 times what the NRL rated In Melbourne on Sunday

So what's YOUR prediction Dave? 50k for the RL international? 40k? Surely a match like this couldnt attract a smaller crowd
Melb ?

You said international rl was insignificant


In sydney

I proved again
Yr a twat :cool:

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:27 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Of course, this game historically only gets a crowd when held outside Sydney, Sydney hasn't turned up for decades.

You seem to forget or don't know would be my bet, the Kangaroos historically (that word again) when playing in Sydney for 70 years at the SCG set all sorts of crowd records. Then Australia started moving away from everyone else in every facit of the game in regards professionalism and everything that goes with it. The other National teams started to go to junk, it all happened around the mid 70's threw to the mid to late 80's.

During this time, there was the odd upset here and there, but Australia did go 16 test matches undefeated and not taking into account the Emus games against the club sides they played while on these tours over the 3 or 4 years. That record is up there with the Test Cricket side.

Over the last 15 years, the International game has seen some tremendous games played that imo and in many others it seems after reading their thoughts at different places that a hellava lot of these games were much much better than anything SOO put up. Yet all these great games were played when it was a series, none of the 1 off test matches since it was reintroduced have been much chop, the kiwis always need a few games to really get into it and have proved this over the last decade by winning a tri nations, a 4 nations and a RLWC, the first time in near 30 years Australia (back in 2005) had lost a series (last one was in France of all places in 1977).

What I'm saying is, it's going to have to take the other nations stepping up on a consistent basis to get the Sydneysiders along to the games again. It's a pity, cause I would've loved to have been around back in days when Australia would play France GB and NZ in Sydney in front of record crowds.

I read a book not that long ago called "champagne rugby" it was about the great French teams that toured Australia in 1951-55 and 60. In one of the chapters, it mentioned the crowds that followed the French team everywhere they went, the night before the first test in Sydney 1951 (First time France had been in Australia) the team where having a feed and a drink at one of the local pubs that was just up the road from the SCG where they were staying. After they called closing time, the hundreds in the pub left and the french team was the last of the ppl there. A couple of the players decided to go for a walk and have a smoke, when they got outside the pub, they looked towards the SCG and all they could see was something like thousands of fire flies buzzing around in the SCG. One of the French players asked a local who was walking past what those strange lights were that were coming from the SCG, the man turned to the French guys and said, that's the people getting in early for the big match tomorrow, they're all just having a smoke. There was already over 10,000 in the SCG the night before the First test.

Doesn't help when NZ have a coach that seems to have no clue whasoever.
So what your telling me is international RL is effectively insignificant in Syndey, RL's largest heartland city. In fact its way less significant than a domestic Aussie Rules competition in Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne
Insignificant ? :?>

:_<> :_<>
:(/

When 600, 000 of them watch a sporting event Id say not


No

Insignificant would be a sport that can only attract 50, 000

Eg
The fumbles & bumbles :cool:
10 times what the NRL rated In Melbourne on Sunday

So what's YOUR prediction Dave? 50k for the RL international? 40k? Surely a match like this couldnt attract a smaller crowd


My prediction is the test will b the most watched game in the nation this weekend

Why
Are u betting it wont ?

Are u prepared to put your moderators role on the line
You have a big mouth
But tiny nuts like most fumblers

What say you fumbler ? :cool:

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:38 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Of course, this game historically only gets a crowd when held outside Sydney, Sydney hasn't turned up for decades.

You seem to forget or don't know would be my bet, the Kangaroos historically (that word again) when playing in Sydney for 70 years at the SCG set all sorts of crowd records. Then Australia started moving away from everyone else in every facit of the game in regards professionalism and everything that goes with it. The other National teams started to go to junk, it all happened around the mid 70's threw to the mid to late 80's.

During this time, there was the odd upset here and there, but Australia did go 16 test matches undefeated and not taking into account the Emus games against the club sides they played while on these tours over the 3 or 4 years. That record is up there with the Test Cricket side.

Over the last 15 years, the International game has seen some tremendous games played that imo and in many others it seems after reading their thoughts at different places that a hellava lot of these games were much much better than anything SOO put up. Yet all these great games were played when it was a series, none of the 1 off test matches since it was reintroduced have been much chop, the kiwis always need a few games to really get into it and have proved this over the last decade by winning a tri nations, a 4 nations and a RLWC, the first time in near 30 years Australia (back in 2005) had lost a series (last one was in France of all places in 1977).

What I'm saying is, it's going to have to take the other nations stepping up on a consistent basis to get the Sydneysiders along to the games again. It's a pity, cause I would've loved to have been around back in days when Australia would play France GB and NZ in Sydney in front of record crowds.

I read a book not that long ago called "champagne rugby" it was about the great French teams that toured Australia in 1951-55 and 60. In one of the chapters, it mentioned the crowds that followed the French team everywhere they went, the night before the first test in Sydney 1951 (First time France had been in Australia) the team where having a feed and a drink at one of the local pubs that was just up the road from the SCG where they were staying. After they called closing time, the hundreds in the pub left and the french team was the last of the ppl there. A couple of the players decided to go for a walk and have a smoke, when they got outside the pub, they looked towards the SCG and all they could see was something like thousands of fire flies buzzing around in the SCG. One of the French players asked a local who was walking past what those strange lights were that were coming from the SCG, the man turned to the French guys and said, that's the people getting in early for the big match tomorrow, they're all just having a smoke. There was already over 10,000 in the SCG the night before the First test.

Doesn't help when NZ have a coach that seems to have no clue whasoever.
So what your telling me is international RL is effectively insignificant in Syndey, RL's largest heartland city. In fact its way less significant than a domestic Aussie Rules competition in Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne
Insignificant ? :?>

:_<> :_<>
:(/

When 600, 000 of them watch a sporting event Id say not


No

Insignificant would be a sport that can only attract 50, 000

Eg
The fumbles & bumbles :cool:
10 times what the NRL rated In Melbourne on Sunday

So what's YOUR prediction Dave? 50k for the RL international? 40k? Surely a match like this couldnt attract a smaller crowd


My prediction is the test will b the most watched game in the nation this weekend

Why
Are u betting it wont ?

Are u prepared to put your moderators role on the line
You have a big mouth
But tiny nuts like most fumblers

What say you fumbler ? :cool:
Funnily enough, this thread is about a comparison of crowds :?> why would you be avoiding the topic? If you don't want to discuss the expected crowds why post in this thread?

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:10 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Of course, this game historically only gets a crowd when held outside Sydney, Sydney hasn't turned up for decades.

You seem to forget or don't know would be my bet, the Kangaroos historically (that word again) when playing in Sydney for 70 years at the SCG set all sorts of crowd records. Then Australia started moving away from everyone else in every facit of the game in regards professionalism and everything that goes with it. The other National teams started to go to junk, it all happened around the mid 70's threw to the mid to late 80's.

During this time, there was the odd upset here and there, but Australia did go 16 test matches undefeated and not taking into account the Emus games against the club sides they played while on these tours over the 3 or 4 years. That record is up there with the Test Cricket side.

Over the last 15 years, the International game has seen some tremendous games played that imo and in many others it seems after reading their thoughts at different places that a hellava lot of these games were much much better than anything SOO put up. Yet all these great games were played when it was a series, none of the 1 off test matches since it was reintroduced have been much chop, the kiwis always need a few games to really get into it and have proved this over the last decade by winning a tri nations, a 4 nations and a RLWC, the first time in near 30 years Australia (back in 2005) had lost a series (last one was in France of all places in 1977).

What I'm saying is, it's going to have to take the other nations stepping up on a consistent basis to get the Sydneysiders along to the games again. It's a pity, cause I would've loved to have been around back in days when Australia would play France GB and NZ in Sydney in front of record crowds.

I read a book not that long ago called "champagne rugby" it was about the great French teams that toured Australia in 1951-55 and 60. In one of the chapters, it mentioned the crowds that followed the French team everywhere they went, the night before the first test in Sydney 1951 (First time France had been in Australia) the team where having a feed and a drink at one of the local pubs that was just up the road from the SCG where they were staying. After they called closing time, the hundreds in the pub left and the french team was the last of the ppl there. A couple of the players decided to go for a walk and have a smoke, when they got outside the pub, they looked towards the SCG and all they could see was something like thousands of fire flies buzzing around in the SCG. One of the French players asked a local who was walking past what those strange lights were that were coming from the SCG, the man turned to the French guys and said, that's the people getting in early for the big match tomorrow, they're all just having a smoke. There was already over 10,000 in the SCG the night before the First test.

Doesn't help when NZ have a coach that seems to have no clue whasoever.
So what your telling me is international RL is effectively insignificant in Syndey, RL's largest heartland city. In fact its way less significant than a domestic Aussie Rules competition in Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne
Insignificant ? :?>

:_<> :_<>
:(/

When 600, 000 of them watch a sporting event Id say not


No

Insignificant would be a sport that can only attract 50, 000

Eg
The fumbles & bumbles :cool:
10 times what the NRL rated In Melbourne on Sunday

So what's YOUR prediction Dave? 50k for the RL international? 40k? Surely a match like this couldnt attract a smaller crowd


My prediction is the test will b the most watched game in the nation this weekend

Why
Are u betting it wont ?

Are u prepared to put your moderators role on the line
You have a big mouth
But tiny nuts like most fumblers

What say you fumbler ? :cool:
Funnily enough, this thread is about a comparison of crowds :?> why would you be avoiding the topic? If you don't want to discuss the expected crowds why post in this thread?
Will the RL test b the most watched game in Oz this weekend or not ?

Easy question
Yes or no

back your big trap up for once
Or are you a chicken shit who knows it will b :cool:

Gee
This thread has just been consigned to the dust bin eh ? :wink:

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:18 pm
by pussycat
Drac wrote:
pussycat wrote:
The game a few weeks later will. By 3 or 4 x.
Nice deflection, but i'm in a sporting mood, so i'll bite.

You believe that State of Origin will record a crowd "3 or 4 x" larger than Adelaide gets against Melbourne this weekend? or the Perth Derby, or Carlton Collingwood?

Which 120k - 200k seat stadium is SOO being played out of this year?
Your average Friday night game is usually around 1m - So yes 3 or 4 times.

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:19 pm
by Xman
pussycat wrote:
Drac wrote:
pussycat wrote:
The game a few weeks later will. By 3 or 4 x.
Nice deflection, but i'm in a sporting mood, so i'll bite.

You believe that State of Origin will record a crowd "3 or 4 x" larger than Adelaide gets against Melbourne this weekend? or the Perth Derby, or Carlton Collingwood?

Which 120k - 200k seat stadium is SOO being played out of this year?
Your average Friday night game is usually around 1m - So yes 3 or 4 times.
This thread isn't about ratings or SOO.

Try again

There appears to be a pattern forming here. When RL fans realise they're losing a thread they just change the subject :)))

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:32 pm
by pussycat
Not deflecting , just an honest accident. Unlike how all AFL fans want to talk about is there crowds - we all know where it will get you though.

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:39 pm
by Xman
pussycat wrote:
Not deflecting , just an honest accident. Unlike how all AFL fans want to talk about is there crowds - we all know where it will get you though.
Crowds, membership, revenue, sponsorship, national coverage, TV ratings

Yeah, we talk it all...

NRL fans? Oh but our SOO ratings, please can we discuss our SOO ratings........ :(

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:58 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
Fuck the SOO ratings, this match on Friday night will be the biggest on TV out of all the codes so far this year.

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 6:53 am
by Xman
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Fuck the SOO ratings, this match on Friday night will be the biggest on TV out of all the codes so far this year.
Bigger than ANZAC days 1.5m? :?>

Surely itll rate well over 2m :?> This is a RL international, effectively the only RL match of the weekend, and it's relevant to every RL fan in Australia. It'd be pretty embarrassing if it was outrated by a club game between two Melbourne suburbs

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 11:03 am
by Drac
pussycat wrote:
Drac wrote:
pussycat wrote:
The game a few weeks later will. By 3 or 4 x.
Nice deflection, but i'm in a sporting mood, so i'll bite.

You believe that State of Origin will record a crowd "3 or 4 x" larger than Adelaide gets against Melbourne this weekend? or the Perth Derby, or Carlton Collingwood?

Which 120k - 200k seat stadium is SOO being played out of this year?
Your average Friday night game is usually around 1m - So yes 3 or 4 times.
AFL average Friday night crowds don't even approach 1 million. Our biggets stadium only holds 100,000. What the ruddy hell are you talking about?

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 11:11 am
by Swans4ever
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Of course, this game historically only gets a crowd when held outside Sydney, Sydney hasn't turned up for decades.

You seem to forget or don't know would be my bet, the Kangaroos historically (that word again) when playing in Sydney for 70 years at the SCG set all sorts of crowd records. Then Australia started moving away from everyone else in every facit of the game in regards professionalism and everything that goes with it. The other National teams started to go to junk, it all happened around the mid 70's threw to the mid to late 80's.

During this time, there was the odd upset here and there, but Australia did go 16 test matches undefeated and not taking into account the Emus games against the club sides they played while on these tours over the 3 or 4 years. That record is up there with the Test Cricket side.

Over the last 15 years, the International game has seen some tremendous games played that imo and in many others it seems after reading their thoughts at different places that a hellava lot of these games were much much better than anything SOO put up. Yet all these great games were played when it was a series, none of the 1 off test matches since it was reintroduced have been much chop, the kiwis always need a few games to really get into it and have proved this over the last decade by winning a tri nations, a 4 nations and a RLWC, the first time in near 30 years Australia (back in 2005) had lost a series (last one was in France of all places in 1977).

What I'm saying is, it's going to have to take the other nations stepping up on a consistent basis to get the Sydneysiders along to the games again. It's a pity, cause I would've loved to have been around back in days when Australia would play France GB and NZ in Sydney in front of record crowds.

I read a book not that long ago called "champagne rugby" it was about the great French teams that toured Australia in 1951-55 and 60. In one of the chapters, it mentioned the crowds that followed the French team everywhere they went, the night before the first test in Sydney 1951 (First time France had been in Australia) the team where having a feed and a drink at one of the local pubs that was just up the road from the SCG where they were staying. After they called closing time, the hundreds in the pub left and the french team was the last of the ppl there. A couple of the players decided to go for a walk and have a smoke, when they got outside the pub, they looked towards the SCG and all they could see was something like thousands of fire flies buzzing around in the SCG. One of the French players asked a local who was walking past what those strange lights were that were coming from the SCG, the man turned to the French guys and said, that's the people getting in early for the big match tomorrow, they're all just having a smoke. There was already over 10,000 in the SCG the night before the First test.

Doesn't help when NZ have a coach that seems to have no clue whasoever.
So what your telling me is international RL is effectively insignificant in Syndey, RL's largest heartland city. In fact its way less significant than a domestic Aussie Rules competition in Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne
Insignificant ? :?>

:_<> :_<>
:(/

When 600, 000 of them watch a sporting event Id say not


No

Insignificant would be a sport that can only attract 50, 000

Eg
The fumbles & bumbles :cool:
10 times what the NRL rated In Melbourne on Sunday

So what's YOUR prediction Dave? 50k for the RL international? 40k? Surely a match like this couldnt attract a smaller crowd


My prediction is the test will b the most watched game in the nation this weekend

Why
Are u betting it wont ?

Are u prepared to put your moderators role on the line
You have a big mouth
But tiny nuts like most fumblers

What say you fumbler ? :cool:
Funnily enough, this thread is about a comparison of crowds :?> why would you be avoiding the topic? If you don't want to discuss the expected crowds why post in this thread?
Will the RL test b the most watched game in Oz this weekend or not ?

Easy question
Yes or no

back your big trap up for once
Or are you a chicken shit who knows it will b :cool:

Gee
This thread has just been consigned to the dust bin eh ? :wink:
Why are you avoiding xman's question???? Why do you keep going on about TV ratings and not crowds - not trying to deflect are you - so answer the question how big will the crowd be???

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:28 pm
by Cracker
I note that the game is being played at Allianz Stadium. Foolish error. It should be being played at ANZ.

That means that Carlton /Collingwood will draw more for certain. At least twice as many, and if the Sydney weather is bad the difference will be larger.

Ratings will be of interest. I'm not prepared to make a prediction on that.

Re: Will the Aus v NZ RL test draw more than the AFL?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 2:56 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
Why the hell would you hold this game at ANZ which is an 83k stadium when the game hasn't filled the SFS for well over 2 decades at half the capacity?

Don't you get it, Sydney doesn't deserve any International RL until the fans start turning up again, the reason this game has sold out over the last 8 years is simply because it was not held in Sydney.