Talking Footy

Cracker wrote:

That's actually very true.

So, in this situation, it's a case of counting the home crowd is no indication of the popularity of the team?

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

At least the crowd at the parra game was actually there, not a made up figure.

Oh and just like the GWS game, if not for away supporters, the attendance would've been much much much lower

yes every AFL game has fudged figures. with all of its revenue that dwarfs the NRL, they buy cardboard cut outs to place at the ground to give appearance that the stadium is full

piss off idiot, the NRL has been caught out several times of fudging crowd figures, just because AFL games out draw NRL games, all of you basement dwelling virgins get all teary and cant face the truth

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

That's actually very true.

So, in this situation, it's a case of counting the home crowd is no indication of the popularity of the team?

No, I was referring to ParraEelsNRL's reference to the Swans fans at the game. According to AFL supporters here, the Swans fans should not be counted because it's an away game for them. The Giants have no real right claiming the whole crowd as theirs, but they do have a right to claim any Giants fans who attend Swans home games. Or any other team's home games.

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

That's actually very true.

So, in this situation, it's a case of counting the home crowd is no indication of the popularity of the team?

No, I was referring to ParraEelsNRL's reference to the Swans fans at the game. According to AFL supporters here, the Swans fans should not be counted because it's an away game for them. The Giants have no real right claiming the whole crowd as theirs, but they do have a right to claim any Giants fans who attend Swans home games. Or any other team's home games.

That's what I said, you're saying that the giants can't count all of their home crowd because the swans probably made up more than half of the crowd.

Anyway you have lost this Crackers. The only way you could have any realistic figure is stand at the gates and ask everyone which team they support. Of course you run into another problem, what if someone shows up that doesn't follow any of the two and just wants to watch the game. Do you count them as a crowdpuller for both?

Forget it. The way that its been done may not be perfect but it's the best way anyone has come up with.

adamj1300 wrote:

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

At least the crowd at the parra game was actually there, not a made up figure.

Oh and just like the GWS game, if not for away supporters, the attendance would've been much much much lower

yes every AFL game has fudged figures. with all of its revenue that dwarfs the NRL, they buy cardboard cut outs to place at the ground to give appearance that the stadium is full

piss off idiot, the NRL has been caught out several times of fudging crowd figures, just because AFL games out draw NRL games, all of you basement dwelling virgins get all teary and cant face the truth

daylight savings

any ideas dickhead ?

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Looks like the Kitty Kats are going gangbusters in Brissy.

39,000 for Lions AFL season opener on Seven

https://twitter.com/MediaweekAUS


Maybe they need top be gifted another few Flags, Flags

But they will have to get in line behind the Swines with extra $$$$$.
The Suns & Midgets who are next on Vlads list to rise to the top...

I would hate to be a fan of a lesser MELB club...
No fucking hope in the next 10 yrs of getting anywhere near a GF,due to everything being given to the non heartland teams.

What else can you expect from a compromised comp...
Maybe the Kitty kats could apply for a COLA
Then they could maybe improve & so would their ratings..

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

That's actually very true.

So, in this situation, it's a case of counting the home crowd is no indication of the popularity of the team?

No, I was referring to ParraEelsNRL's reference to the Swans fans at the game. According to AFL supporters here, the Swans fans should not be counted because it's an away game for them. The Giants have no real right claiming the whole crowd as theirs, but they do have a right to claim any Giants fans who attend Swans home games. Or any other team's home games.

That's what I said, you're saying that the giants can't count all of their home crowd because the swans probably made up more than half of the crowd.

Anyway you have lost this Crackers. The only way you could have any realistic figure is stand at the gates and ask everyone which team they support. Of course you run into another problem, what if someone shows up that doesn't follow any of the two and just wants to watch the game. Do you count them as a crowdpuller for both?

Forget it. The way that its been done may not be perfect but it's the best way anyone has come up with.

No, MarkZZZ, you are not understanding me. My point is that you believe that the SWANS should not count their supporters at the Giants home game, not the Giants shouldn't count the Swans fans. I believe that the Swans should count the crowd at the Giants home game for this excellent example - as should all clubs count away crowds as well as home crowds when it comes to gauging support.

This is after all a national game. The NRL too, even if they only have clubs in the eastern states the point is still just as valid.

Cracker wrote:

No, MarkZZZ, you are not understanding me.

And you don't understand Mark and I.

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

That's actually very true.

So, in this situation, it's a case of counting the home crowd is no indication of the popularity of the team?

No, I was referring to ParraEelsNRL's reference to the Swans fans at the game. According to AFL supporters here, the Swans fans should not be counted because it's an away game for them. The Giants have no real right claiming the whole crowd as theirs, but they do have a right to claim any Giants fans who attend Swans home games. Or any other team's home games.

That's what I said, you're saying that the giants can't count all of their home crowd because the swans probably made up more than half of the crowd.

Anyway you have lost this Crackers. The only way you could have any realistic figure is stand at the gates and ask everyone which team they support. Of course you run into another problem, what if someone shows up that doesn't follow any of the two and just wants to watch the game. Do you count them as a crowdpuller for both?

Forget it. The way that its been done may not be perfect but it's the best way anyone has come up with.

No, MarkZZZ, you are not understanding me. My point is that you believe that the SWANS should not count their supporters at the Giants home game, not the Giants shouldn't count the Swans fans. I believe that the Swans should count the crowd at the Giants home game for this excellent example - as should all clubs count away crowds as well as home crowds when it comes to gauging support.

This is after all a national game. The NRL too, even if they only have clubs in the eastern states the point is still just as valid.

I suspect you know what I am thinking. NOT.
Like I said earlier there is no way to quarantine supporters of each team at a game. Like I said what do you do with those that follow Carlton that want to see a game in Sydney so go and see the Swans play the Giants.

I'll tell you what. Next game of AFL you go to, go around and ask EVERYONE who do they follow and get back to us. It's impossible.

No more needs to be said except untill they come up with a better way of doing it than we currently do it, that's the way it will be done.

Massive.

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

That's actually very true.

So, in this situation, it's a case of counting the home crowd is no indication of the popularity of the team?

No, I was referring to ParraEelsNRL's reference to the Swans fans at the game. According to AFL supporters here, the Swans fans should not be counted because it's an away game for them. The Giants have no real right claiming the whole crowd as theirs, but they do have a right to claim any Giants fans who attend Swans home games. Or any other team's home games.

That's what I said, you're saying that the giants can't count all of their home crowd because the swans probably made up more than half of the crowd.

Anyway you have lost this Crackers. The only way you could have any realistic figure is stand at the gates and ask everyone which team they support. Of course you run into another problem, what if someone shows up that doesn't follow any of the two and just wants to watch the game. Do you count them as a crowdpuller for both?

Forget it. The way that its been done may not be perfect but it's the best way anyone has come up with.

No, MarkZZZ, you are not understanding me. My point is that you believe that the SWANS should not count their supporters at the Giants home game, not the Giants shouldn't count the Swans fans. I believe that the Swans should count the crowd at the Giants home game for this excellent example - as should all clubs count away crowds as well as home crowds when it comes to gauging support.

This is after all a national game. The NRL too, even if they only have clubs in the eastern states the point is still just as valid.

I suspect you know what I am thinking. NOT.
Like I said earlier there is no way to quarantine supporters of each team at a game. Like I said what do you do with those that follow Carlton that want to see a game in Sydney so go and see the Swans play the Giants.

I'll tell you what. Next game of AFL you go to, go around and ask EVERYONE who do they follow and get back to us. It's impossible.

No more needs to be said except untill they come up with a better way of doing it than we currently do it, that's the way it will be done.

And the way it should be done is to count all games that a club is involved in. Home and away. This way your "impossible" situation is overcome in the only way that it can.

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

That's actually very true.

So, in this situation, it's a case of counting the home crowd is no indication of the popularity of the team?

No, I was referring to ParraEelsNRL's reference to the Swans fans at the game. According to AFL supporters here, the Swans fans should not be counted because it's an away game for them. The Giants have no real right claiming the whole crowd as theirs, but they do have a right to claim any Giants fans who attend Swans home games. Or any other team's home games.

That's what I said, you're saying that the giants can't count all of their home crowd because the swans probably made up more than half of the crowd.

Anyway you have lost this Crackers. The only way you could have any realistic figure is stand at the gates and ask everyone which team they support. Of course you run into another problem, what if someone shows up that doesn't follow any of the two and just wants to watch the game. Do you count them as a crowdpuller for both?

Forget it. The way that its been done may not be perfect but it's the best way anyone has come up with.

No, MarkZZZ, you are not understanding me. My point is that you believe that the SWANS should not count their supporters at the Giants home game, not the Giants shouldn't count the Swans fans. I believe that the Swans should count the crowd at the Giants home game for this excellent example - as should all clubs count away crowds as well as home crowds when it comes to gauging support.

This is after all a national game. The NRL too, even if they only have clubs in the eastern states the point is still just as valid.

I suspect you know what I am thinking. NOT.
Like I said earlier there is no way to quarantine supporters of each team at a game. Like I said what do you do with those that follow Carlton that want to see a game in Sydney so go and see the Swans play the Giants.

I'll tell you what. Next game of AFL you go to, go around and ask EVERYONE who do they follow and get back to us. It's impossible.

No more needs to be said except untill they come up with a better way of doing it than we currently do it, that's the way it will be done.

And the way it should be done is to count all games that a club is involved in. Home and away. This way your "impossible" situation is overcome in the only way that it can.

So as an example you want to attribute the crowd that goes to see a Collingwood V Giants game in Melbourne to the Giants?

You have no idea, do you?


BTW until is spelled with one l not two.

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

MarkZZZ wrote:

Cracker wrote:

That's actually very true.

So, in this situation, it's a case of counting the home crowd is no indication of the popularity of the team?

No, I was referring to ParraEelsNRL's reference to the Swans fans at the game. According to AFL supporters here, the Swans fans should not be counted because it's an away game for them. The Giants have no real right claiming the whole crowd as theirs, but they do have a right to claim any Giants fans who attend Swans home games. Or any other team's home games.

That's what I said, you're saying that the giants can't count all of their home crowd because the swans probably made up more than half of the crowd.

Anyway you have lost this Crackers. The only way you could have any realistic figure is stand at the gates and ask everyone which team they support. Of course you run into another problem, what if someone shows up that doesn't follow any of the two and just wants to watch the game. Do you count them as a crowdpuller for both?

Forget it. The way that its been done may not be perfect but it's the best way anyone has come up with.

No, MarkZZZ, you are not understanding me. My point is that you believe that the SWANS should not count their supporters at the Giants home game, not the Giants shouldn't count the Swans fans. I believe that the Swans should count the crowd at the Giants home game for this excellent example - as should all clubs count away crowds as well as home crowds when it comes to gauging support.

This is after all a national game. The NRL too, even if they only have clubs in the eastern states the point is still just as valid.

I suspect you know what I am thinking. NOT.
Like I said earlier there is no way to quarantine supporters of each team at a game. Like I said what do you do with those that follow Carlton that want to see a game in Sydney so go and see the Swans play the Giants.

I'll tell you what. Next game of AFL you go to, go around and ask EVERYONE who do they follow and get back to us. It's impossible.

No more needs to be said except untill they come up with a better way of doing it than we currently do it, that's the way it will be done.

And the way it should be done is to count all games that a club is involved in. Home and away. This way your "impossible" situation is overcome in the only way that it can.

So as an example you want to attribute the crowd that goes to see a Collingwood V Giants game in Melbourne to the Giants?

You have no idea, do you?

You are a cheap person. The crowd at every game in which a club is involved should be attributed to that club. Both clubs in fact. In the example you gave, the crowd should be attributed to both Collingwood and GWS. The same would apply to the game if it was held in Sydney. Collingwood have just as much right to attribute that crowd to them.

You still don't get it do you. It's so simple even a rl person should understand it.
Home crowds point to the popularity of the home team to the region and thus it's viability.
Away crowds point to the popularity of the team in the league as thus it's value to the league.

And to the club because it needs a nationwide fan base to survive long term. A club that relies 100 percent on a local fan base is a club that is doomed to failure. This applies to both AFL and NRL.