45% or 55%, which is bigger AFL fans (NRLcrapper and co)?

[NRLCrap1]

You're wrong. AFL in New South Wales and Queensland is substantial. Sure it's not the most popular code there, but you only have to look at club numbers in the Sydney competition and how strong the game is in the Riverina! Not just Albury and Wagga - the whole fricking region! There's a league in Newcastle. There's a league in Wollongong. There's a league in Tamworth, Bathurst, Coffs Harbour.....do I need to go on? Queensland? There's a league in Toowoomba (suck on that, MP!), Cairns, Mackay, Townsville.....getting it yet?

I wouldnt be putting the word substantial and AFL in NSW and QLD in the same sentence.

what sydney numbers do you want me to look at?.. participation numbers?.. they are the only numbers for sydney that could MAYBE conjugate using the word substantial, you cant be refering to actual registered players where theres about 7000 in all of sydney metro (4.6 million). here is a look at the 'strength' of AFL in Sydney and the substantial growth.

In 2007, 19 clubs fielded 62 teams. The Sydney AFL now boasts 22 clubs fielding 78 teams. This is a far cry from the lows of 1998 when 38 teams took the field. OMG stop the press! in 2012 there were 78 AFL teams in Sydney! Now before you get excited NRLcrapper were arnt talking about some tiny backward victorian town, or a south australian or WA regional city of 20,000 (lol thats a massive population for them), we are talking about Sydney with 4.6 million people or 0.000000000017% of the population lol! Definatly SUBSTANTIAL, the amount of zeros i mean

I cant talk about the so called leagues you have bought up from around QLD cos i dont really care enough to look into it but those leagues you mentioned from newcastle and the illawarra and the north coast lol would be classed as a national competition if they were in europe. they all cover distances of more than 150km, the north coast one covers a distance of about 350kms, thats similar to the height of Victoria from melbourne to Albury. Mind you these international sized leagues are 5 or 6 teams and thats it, 5 or 6 teams in an area larger than the UK with a population of 500 to 700 thousand. Again defineatly SUBSTANTIAL, the fuel costs during the season i mean

http://warugbyleague.com.au/our-history/
In over sixty years the size of this league hasn't even doubled. Yeah real growth there huh? And only one other league in the whole fricking state!

And yet in New South Wales they have ELEVEN! Not including the ACT! In Queensland they have EIGHT! And that includes multiple divisions in the South East corner!

And you have the gall to call that NOT SUBSTANTIAL?? What's NOT SUBSTANTIAL is the rugby league presence in AFL territory!! The difference is worth much more than the 200,000 you're talking about! Ten clubs in and around Newcastle according to the 2014 fixtures that I just looked up alone! I'll bet there aren't many more rugby league clubs in the same area!!

As far as Sydney goes, how about adding the junior team and club numbers eh?

Umm NRLcrappers how long has AFL been in NSW and QLD? it was been in Sydney for over 100 years and in that time the game has grown to 7000 or so registered players, haha. in western sydney AFL is not new either, it has been around for a LONG time. The AFL claim that the Auburn tigers are one of these new clubs into western sydney, that couldnt be further from the truth, that area had a previous AFL team in the area, the auburn red legs who folded due to not enough players in the mid 90s. the tigers are just the red legs re branded.

I wouldnt laugh at RLs impact after 60 years, it would only have been the last decade or so that RL has moved into victoria, yes the prescense is very small but its still alot better than what can be said for the AFL. 7000 registered players to show for over 100 years in sydney, and over 100 years in NSW and its regional leagues are so sparse, the players would have as many frequent flyer points as sir Richard Branson,

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

[214Four]

Thanks to the mining boom WA has been invaded with thousands of RL fans who will help grow the game over there, once this happens and depending how major it is too, the AFL will be in all sorts of trouble as WA is that codes second fort, if that falls then the war will no longer be winable for them.. :<>

Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics show that, for the first time, WA has recorded the highest number of interstate migrants of all the States. In the first three months of the year, more than 2400 people from NSW, 2194 Victorians, 2472 Queenslanders and 641 Northern Territorians made the move to WA. And in the year to March, a net number of 5000 people moved to WA from other parts of the country - the State's best result since the mid-1980s. In the March quarter, WA's population was also swelled by 10,340 new residents from overseas. There were a record 8233 babies born in the State during the quarter, making up for a sharp fall in the December quarter. WA's population grew by 2.2 percent (up 51,000 people) in the year to March.

in the quarter WA grew by 51,000, about 18% of that was babies born in the state.
the arrivals from NSW and QLD is 10% of growth, 20% from overseas and there is a very good possibility a large amount of them being from the UK and NZ.

Now that figure is just for three months of one year. it has been the norm for almost 10 years where NSW and QLD migrants dominating the move to WA....

With the gradual invasion of RL followers from QLD, NSW, NZ and even the UK, it wont be too long until WA is no longer the safe AFL stronghold it once was... The same thing happened to SE Queensland due to southern state migrants moving in droves to the gold coast and taking with them their game slowly polluting the sporting culture there. Well now its payback.

Nothing has been mentioned about the droves of RL (&RU) supporters moving to WA over the last decade, lol the Rugby codes invasion into the west has been an utter success funded solely by western australians.

now we just sit back, grab a beer and just watch the AFLs dominance thin out before our eyes. decades end RL will have a major foothold in WA, ofcourse it wont be number one, and there shouldnt be a need or want to be, get a major foothold there while always giving respect to the codes and teams established there already, the last thing RL wants to do in WA is to copy GWS's arrogant approach.





http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/10372008/wa- ... le-magnet/

[214Four]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

Hows the swans? the team even with success hasnt made the swans strong enough to be self relient.

Hows the suns and GWS? both clubs costing the AFL alot more than anticipated and its defineatly a 30 year plan with these teams, cos in 30 years the only way both these clubs will still be there is if their still sucking off their mummies tit. If the AFLs expansion teams dont bring the extra money to the table in the tv deal, if the AFL doesnt have the funds it was expecting then what?

See the origional expansion teams into nsw and qld are still reliant on the AFL to stay afloat, after 30 years, then what does the AFL do? they add another team in each region thats going to have to compete with each other in an already small AFL market (i mean small by the actual number of people in those areas interested in AFL), its a very risky tactic just so the AFL can potentially gain some more tv dollars, potentially it could work or just as likely it could backfire and the new clubs could become too costly compared to the gains made and also harm the two origional teams there...

The NRL doesnt take expansion lightly, they did in the 90s and it backfired and became costly, they would rush in too quickly without everything being perfect. the AFL hasnt yet had major issues with expansion clubs but there was defineatly not adequate demand for these two new clubs and everyone knows they are really there for tv deal leaverage. the NRL had their expansion vietnam, i think the AFL is going to have theirs very very soon

[adamj1300]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does. the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

AFL in Sydney has been around to play but its just not as easily rocking up to the nearest oval and signing up to play, JUST LIKE RUBGY LEAGUE in Melbourne, Adelaide & WA. but its weather people want to play it and weather. the work the AFL has done in Sydney & qld of recent years is only starting to take place

[Swans4ever]

Thanks to the mining boom WA has been invaded with thousands of RL fans who will help grow the game over there, once this happens and depending how major it is too, the AFL will be in all sorts of trouble as WA is that codes second fort, if that falls then the war will no longer be winable for them.. :<>

Figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics show that, for the first time, WA has recorded the highest number of interstate migrants of all the States. In the first three months of the year, more than 2400 people from NSW, 2194 Victorians, 2472 Queenslanders and 641 Northern Territorians made the move to WA. And in the year to March, a net number of 5000 people moved to WA from other parts of the country - the State's best result since the mid-1980s. In the March quarter, WA's population was also swelled by 10,340 new residents from overseas. There were a record 8233 babies born in the State during the quarter, making up for a sharp fall in the December quarter. WA's population grew by 2.2 percent (up 51,000 people) in the year to March.

in the quarter WA grew by 51,000, about 18% of that was babies born in the state.
the arrivals from NSW and QLD is 10% of growth, 20% from overseas and there is a very good possibility a large amount of them being from the UK and NZ.

Now that figure is just for three months of one year. it has been the norm for almost 10 years where NSW and QLD migrants dominating the move to WA....

With the gradual invasion of RL followers from QLD, NSW, NZ and even the UK, it wont be too long until WA is no longer the safe AFL stronghold it once was... The same thing happened to SE Queensland due to southern state migrants moving in droves to the gold coast and taking with them their game slowly polluting the sporting culture there. Well now its payback.

Nothing has been mentioned about the droves of RL (&RU) supporters moving to WA over the last decade, lol the Rugby codes invasion into the west has been an utter success funded solely by western australians.

now we just sit back, grab a beer and just watch the AFLs dominance thin out before our eyes. decades end RL will have a major foothold in WA, ofcourse it wont be number one, and there shouldnt be a need or want to be, get a major foothold there while always giving respect to the codes and teams established there already, the last thing RL wants to do in WA is to copy GWS's arrogant approach.





http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/10372008/wa- ... le-magnet/

And yet they only have 3000 registered players! After having their own team there - a hell of a lot of NZ ex-pats and all those NSW/Qld people and yet AF stronger than ever - I think you underestimate the lure of children to AF when everyone in the school yard is playing and overestimate RL lure to keep them playing it in a foreign environment! If memory serves it's been 20 years since the Western Reds and what have you got to show for it 3000 players (RL has also been in Australia for over 100 years!) nice try but your pipe dreaming!

[Swans4ever]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

Hows the swans? the team even with success hasnt made the swans strong enough to be self relient.

Hows the suns and GWS? both clubs costing the AFL alot more than anticipated and its defineatly a 30 year plan with these teams, cos in 30 years the only way both these clubs will still be there is if their still sucking off their mummies tit. If the AFLs expansion teams dont bring the extra money to the table in the tv deal, if the AFL doesnt have the funds it was expecting then what?

See the origional expansion teams into nsw and qld are still reliant on the AFL to stay afloat, after 30 years, then what does the AFL do? they add another team in each region thats going to have to compete with each other in an already small AFL market (i mean small by the actual number of people in those areas interested in AFL), its a very risky tactic just so the AFL can potentially gain some more tv dollars, potentially it could work or just as likely it could backfire and the new clubs could become too costly compared to the gains made and also harm the two origional teams there...

The NRL doesnt take expansion lightly, they did in the 90s and it backfired and became costly, they would rush in too quickly without everything being perfect. the AFL hasnt yet had major issues with expansion clubs but there was defineatly not adequate demand for these two new clubs and everyone knows they are really there for tv deal leaverage. the NRL had their expansion vietnam, i think the AFL is going to have theirs very very soon

Piss off - Swans have been profitable for 9 out of the last 10 yrs - in fact they get less distribution from the AFL than some Melbourne based clubs AND run an Academy with over 200 boys in it - it was the NRL that has a LONG history in failing in expansion, Western Reds, Adelaide Rams, Queensland Crushers, Hunter Mariners, Gold Coast Chargers - even Illawarra if you count that they merged with St.George - the big difference is that the AFL will wait 20 years if necessary and stand by their clubs - NRL will get rid of them! you are an idiot!

[AFLcrap1]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does. the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

AFL in Sydney has been around to play but its just not as easily rocking up to the nearest oval and signing up to play, JUST LIKE RUBGY LEAGUE in Melbourne, Adelaide & WA. but its weather people want to play it and weather. the work the AFL has done in Sydney & qld of recent years is only starting to take place

While the pokies have already made a significant imprint on a council region that has more than 30,000 problem gamblers and pumps nearly $100 million a year into the machines, there will soon another mark on the area's pokie map, with the Brisbane Lions poised to house 200 machines in a new Springwood clubhouse given the green light on Tuesday.
The AFL club is yet to reveal when construction will begin on the Lions Den Social Club facility on the corner of Springwood Rd and Pannikin St - the former site of furnishing retailer Ikea - but it will add to Logan's tally of poker machines pending State Government approval.
The council's decision to approve the Lions' development application by a vote of 8-1 has left councillor Sean Black, who has fronted the anti-pokie appeal, seething.
"Logan has not only got more than enough (pokies), it's got real and present problems with the ones we've got," he said.
"It's a social disaster. It's the worst problem facing Logan.
"In Logan I can't find an individual - I cannot find one human on the street in this city - that says `Sean, please, we need more pokies'. They say the complete opposite."
The approval of the Lions' application was an about-face for the councillors, who in October 2008 voted 7-3 to adopt a "no more pokies" policy.



Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... z2velwPNs2

[AFLcrap1]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

Hows the swans? the team even with success hasnt made the swans strong enough to be self relient.

Hows the suns and GWS? both clubs costing the AFL alot more than anticipated and its defineatly a 30 year plan with these teams, cos in 30 years the only way both these clubs will still be there is if their still sucking off their mummies tit. If the AFLs expansion teams dont bring the extra money to the table in the tv deal, if the AFL doesnt have the funds it was expecting then what?

See the origional expansion teams into nsw and qld are still reliant on the AFL to stay afloat, after 30 years, then what does the AFL do? they add another team in each region thats going to have to compete with each other in an already small AFL market (i mean small by the actual number of people in those areas interested in AFL), its a very risky tactic just so the AFL can potentially gain some more tv dollars, potentially it could work or just as likely it could backfire and the new clubs could become too costly compared to the gains made and also harm the two origional teams there...

The NRL doesnt take expansion lightly, they did in the 90s and it backfired and became costly, they would rush in too quickly without everything being perfect. the AFL hasnt yet had major issues with expansion clubs but there was defineatly not adequate demand for these two new clubs and everyone knows they are really there for tv deal leaverage. the NRL had their expansion vietnam, i think the AFL is going to have theirs very very soon

Piss off - Swans have been profitable for 9 out of the last 10 yrs - in fact they get less distribution from the AFL than some Melbourne based clubs AND run an Academy with over 200 boys in it - it was the NRL that has a LONG history in failing in expansion, Western Reds, Adelaide Rams, Queensland Crushers, Hunter Mariners, Gold Coast Chargers - even Illawarra if you count that they merged with St.George - the big difference is that the AFL will wait 20 years if necessary and stand by their clubs - NRL will get rid of them! you are an idiot!

You know very well those clubs were culled when the waring parties reunited in the SL war..
By the way.
How is South Melbourne.
How are the Bris Bears.
How are FItzroy

[adamj1300]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

Hows the swans? the team even with success hasnt made the swans strong enough to be self relient.

Hows the suns and GWS? both clubs costing the AFL alot more than anticipated and its defineatly a 30 year plan with these teams, cos in 30 years the only way both these clubs will still be there is if their still sucking off their mummies tit. If the AFLs expansion teams dont bring the extra money to the table in the tv deal, if the AFL doesnt have the funds it was expecting then what?

See the origional expansion teams into nsw and qld are still reliant on the AFL to stay afloat, after 30 years, then what does the AFL do? they add another team in each region thats going to have to compete with each other in an already small AFL market (i mean small by the actual number of people in those areas interested in AFL), its a very risky tactic just so the AFL can potentially gain some more tv dollars, potentially it could work or just as likely it could backfire and the new clubs could become too costly compared to the gains made and also harm the two origional teams there...

The NRL doesnt take expansion lightly, they did in the 90s and it backfired and became costly, they would rush in too quickly without everything being perfect. the AFL hasnt yet had major issues with expansion clubs but there was defineatly not adequate demand for these two new clubs and everyone knows they are really there for tv deal leaverage. the NRL had their expansion vietnam, i think the AFL is going to have theirs very very soon

Piss off - Swans have been profitable for 9 out of the last 10 yrs - in fact they get less distribution from the AFL than some Melbourne based clubs AND run an Academy with over 200 boys in it - it was the NRL that has a LONG history in failing in expansion, Western Reds, Adelaide Rams, Queensland Crushers, Hunter Mariners, Gold Coast Chargers - even Illawarra if you count that they merged with St.George - the big difference is that the AFL will wait 20 years if necessary and stand by their clubs - NRL will get rid of them! you are an idiot!

You know very well those clubs were culled when the waring parties reunited in the SL war..
By the way.
How is South Melbourne.
How are the Bris Bears.
How are FItzroy

south Melbourne are fine, they made there way up to NSW and are now the team with the highest membership and crowd attendance in all of NSW =D>

fitzroy merged with the bears and won three premiships !
the AFL stands by its clubs.

not like the NRL, if the club is failing club i mean the rugby club and the leagues club, if people aren't playing those pokes to pay for that football club, to survive, the NRL just scrap it, people become disenchanted with the game and change to a more exciting game!
perhaps that's why the AFL is growing and NRL shrinking

[Swans4ever]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does. the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

AFL in Sydney has been around to play but its just not as easily rocking up to the nearest oval and signing up to play, JUST LIKE RUBGY LEAGUE in Melbourne, Adelaide & WA. but its weather people want to play it and weather. the work the AFL has done in Sydney & qld of recent years is only starting to take place

While the pokies have already made a significant imprint on a council region that has more than 30,000 problem gamblers and pumps nearly $100 million a year into the machines, there will soon another mark on the area's pokie map, with the Brisbane Lions poised to house 200 machines in a new Springwood clubhouse given the green light on Tuesday.
The AFL club is yet to reveal when construction will begin on the Lions Den Social Club facility on the corner of Springwood Rd and Pannikin St - the former site of furnishing retailer Ikea - but it will add to Logan's tally of poker machines pending State Government approval.
The council's decision to approve the Lions' development application by a vote of 8-1 has left councillor Sean Black, who has fronted the anti-pokie appeal, seething.
"Logan has not only got more than enough (pokies), it's got real and present problems with the ones we've got," he said.
"It's a social disaster. It's the worst problem facing Logan.
"In Logan I can't find an individual - I cannot find one human on the street in this city - that says `Sean, please, we need more pokies'. They say the complete opposite."
The approval of the Lions' application was an about-face for the councillors, who in October 2008 voted 7-3 to adopt a "no more pokies" policy.



Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... z2velwPNs2

Since the Lions haven't got pokies in Springwood (which they do now - I have been to venue and it appears very popular), I think it's linking 30,000 problem gamblers with the lions application - something that should REALLY be linked to existing clubs - what you and everyone NEVER brings up with this issue is the new procedures clubs have had to put in place when they have known gamblers come into - how much they allow them to remain etc etc - by posting this AFLCRAPPER your trying to link problem gambling in Springwood to AFL - be careful on that because you may not like what you hear!

[Cracker]

You're wrong. AFL in New South Wales and Queensland is substantial. Sure it's not the most popular code there, but you only have to look at club numbers in the Sydney competition and how strong the game is in the Riverina! Not just Albury and Wagga - the whole fricking region! There's a league in Newcastle. There's a league in Wollongong. There's a league in Tamworth, Bathurst, Coffs Harbour.....do I need to go on? Queensland? There's a league in Toowoomba (suck on that, MP!), Cairns, Mackay, Townsville.....getting it yet?

I wouldnt be putting the word substantial and AFL in NSW and QLD in the same sentence.

what sydney numbers do you want me to look at?.. participation numbers?.. they are the only numbers for sydney that could MAYBE conjugate using the word substantial, you cant be refering to actual registered players where theres about 7000 in all of sydney metro (4.6 million). here is a look at the 'strength' of AFL in Sydney and the substantial growth.

In 2007, 19 clubs fielded 62 teams. The Sydney AFL now boasts 22 clubs fielding 78 teams. This is a far cry from the lows of 1998 when 38 teams took the field. OMG stop the press! in 2012 there were 78 AFL teams in Sydney! Now before you get excited NRLcrapper we arnt talking about some tiny backward victorian town, or a south australian or WA regional city of 20,000 (lol thats a massive population for them), we are talking about Sydney with 4.6 million people or 0.000000000017% of the population lol! Definatly SUBSTANTIAL, the amount of zeros i mean

I cant talk about the so called leagues you have bought up from around QLD cos i dont really care enough to look into it but those leagues you mentioned from newcastle and the illawarra and the north coast lol would be classed as a national league if they were in europe. they all cover distances of more than 150km, the north coast one covers a distance of about 350kms, thats similar to the height of Victoria from melbourne to Albury. Mind you these international sized leagues are 5 or 6 teams and thats it, 5 or 6 teams in an area larger than the UK with a population of 500 to 700 thousand. Again defineatly SUBSTANTIAL, the fuel costs during the season i mean

To a degree I have to defend NRLCrap1, on the New South Wales numbers at least given that the Riverina has a major role to play in those numbers. Also as a point, there are trips to away matches in Group 9 that would match those that you describe, 214Four. Albury to Young for instance. Even Albury to Cootamundra and Temora is comparible.

However it is still to be proven that the figures that were shown on another thread were accurate and correct.

As for Queensland, I have yet to see evidence of these competitions in Cairns, Townsville, Mackay and Toowoomba.

[Swans4ever]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

Hows the swans? the team even with success hasnt made the swans strong enough to be self relient.

Hows the suns and GWS? both clubs costing the AFL alot more than anticipated and its defineatly a 30 year plan with these teams, cos in 30 years the only way both these clubs will still be there is if their still sucking off their mummies tit. If the AFLs expansion teams dont bring the extra money to the table in the tv deal, if the AFL doesnt have the funds it was expecting then what?

See the origional expansion teams into nsw and qld are still reliant on the AFL to stay afloat, after 30 years, then what does the AFL do? they add another team in each region thats going to have to compete with each other in an already small AFL market (i mean small by the actual number of people in those areas interested in AFL), its a very risky tactic just so the AFL can potentially gain some more tv dollars, potentially it could work or just as likely it could backfire and the new clubs could become too costly compared to the gains made and also harm the two origional teams there...

The NRL doesnt take expansion lightly, they did in the 90s and it backfired and became costly, they would rush in too quickly without everything being perfect. the AFL hasnt yet had major issues with expansion clubs but there was defineatly not adequate demand for these two new clubs and everyone knows they are really there for tv deal leaverage. the NRL had their expansion vietnam, i think the AFL is going to have theirs very very soon

Piss off - Swans have been profitable for 9 out of the last 10 yrs - in fact they get less distribution from the AFL than some Melbourne based clubs AND run an Academy with over 200 boys in it - it was the NRL that has a LONG history in failing in expansion, Western Reds, Adelaide Rams, Queensland Crushers, Hunter Mariners, Gold Coast Chargers - even Illawarra if you count that they merged with St.George - the big difference is that the AFL will wait 20 years if necessary and stand by their clubs - NRL will get rid of them! you are an idiot!

You know very well those clubs were culled when the waring parties reunited in the SL war..
By the way.
How is South Melbourne.
How are the Bris Bears.
How are FItzroy

Sth Melb moved to Sydney - Fitzroy merged with Bears - they still recognise their history - Fitzroy still exists in the VAFA and still play at Bruniswick St Oval!

[AFLcrap1]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does. the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

AFL in Sydney has been around to play but its just not as easily rocking up to the nearest oval and signing up to play, JUST LIKE RUBGY LEAGUE in Melbourne, Adelaide & WA. but its weather people want to play it and weather. the work the AFL has done in Sydney & qld of recent years is only starting to take place

While the pokies have already made a significant imprint on a council region that has more than 30,000 problem gamblers and pumps nearly $100 million a year into the machines, there will soon another mark on the area's pokie map, with the Brisbane Lions poised to house 200 machines in a new Springwood clubhouse given the green light on Tuesday.
The AFL club is yet to reveal when construction will begin on the Lions Den Social Club facility on the corner of Springwood Rd and Pannikin St - the former site of furnishing retailer Ikea - but it will add to Logan's tally of poker machines pending State Government approval.
The council's decision to approve the Lions' development application by a vote of 8-1 has left councillor Sean Black, who has fronted the anti-pokie appeal, seething.
"Logan has not only got more than enough (pokies), it's got real and present problems with the ones we've got," he said.
"It's a social disaster. It's the worst problem facing Logan.
"In Logan I can't find an individual - I cannot find one human on the street in this city - that says `Sean, please, we need more pokies'. They say the complete opposite."
The approval of the Lions' application was an about-face for the councillors, who in October 2008 voted 7-3 to adopt a "no more pokies" policy.



Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... z2velwPNs2

Since the Lions haven't got pokies in Springwood (which they do now - I have been to venue and it appears very popular), I think it's linking 30,000 problem gamblers with the lions application - something that should REALLY be linked to existing clubs - what you and everyone NEVER brings up with this issue is the new procedures clubs have had to put in place when they have known gamblers come into - how much they allow them to remain etc etc - by posting this AFLCRAPPER your trying to link problem gambling in Springwood to AFL - be careful on that because you may not like what you hear!

WTF are you on about.
seriously you fumblemob on here have NO fucking comprehension skills .

As usual Spazzadam made a claim about RL & Pokies ,.
I highlighted it in my post.


See below...
Are you following.
if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does.
the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

So i posted a paragraph from a news article about the very same club Spadam was talking about(AFL sets its club business structure up differently).

I highlighted the part about the LIONS opening a pokie palace.
Are you still following?

I once again showed how stupid & what a fucking head up his arse hypocrite Spazzadam is.

How you reached the conclusion that i was linking the gambling problem to the AFL is plain fucking bizarre.

Did i say that..NO.
Did i even hint at that no .

How can any RL poster have a debate on here when the fumblers are not on this planet..
They read something & see something totally different..

[Swans4ever]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does. the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

AFL in Sydney has been around to play but its just not as easily rocking up to the nearest oval and signing up to play, JUST LIKE RUBGY LEAGUE in Melbourne, Adelaide & WA. but its weather people want to play it and weather. the work the AFL has done in Sydney & qld of recent years is only starting to take place

While the pokies have already made a significant imprint on a council region that has more than 30,000 problem gamblers and pumps nearly $100 million a year into the machines, there will soon another mark on the area's pokie map, with the Brisbane Lions poised to house 200 machines in a new Springwood clubhouse given the green light on Tuesday.
The AFL club is yet to reveal when construction will begin on the Lions Den Social Club facility on the corner of Springwood Rd and Pannikin St - the former site of furnishing retailer Ikea - but it will add to Logan's tally of poker machines pending State Government approval.
The council's decision to approve the Lions' development application by a vote of 8-1 has left councillor Sean Black, who has fronted the anti-pokie appeal, seething.
"Logan has not only got more than enough (pokies), it's got real and present problems with the ones we've got," he said.
"It's a social disaster. It's the worst problem facing Logan.
"In Logan I can't find an individual - I cannot find one human on the street in this city - that says `Sean, please, we need more pokies'. They say the complete opposite."
The approval of the Lions' application was an about-face for the councillors, who in October 2008 voted 7-3 to adopt a "no more pokies" policy.



Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... z2velwPNs2

Since the Lions haven't got pokies in Springwood (which they do now - I have been to venue and it appears very popular), I think it's linking 30,000 problem gamblers with the lions application - something that should REALLY be linked to existing clubs - what you and everyone NEVER brings up with this issue is the new procedures clubs have had to put in place when they have known gamblers come into - how much they allow them to remain etc etc - by posting this AFLCRAPPER your trying to link problem gambling in Springwood to AFL - be careful on that because you may not like what you hear!

WTF are you on about.
seriously you fumblemob on here have NO fucking comprehension skills .

As usual Spazzadam made a claim about RL & Pokies ,.
I highlighted it in my post.


See below...
Are you following.
if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does.
the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

So i posted a paragraph from a news article about the very same club Spadam was talking about(AFL sets its club business structure up differently).

I highlighted the part about the LIONS opening a pokie palace.
Are you still following?

I once again showed how stupid & what a fucking head up his arse hypocrite Spazzadam is.

How you reached the conclusion that i was linking the gambling problem to the AFL is plain fucking bizarre.

Did i say that..NO.
Did i even hint at that no .

How can any RL poster have a debate on here when the fumblers are not on this planet..
They read something & see something totally different..

Then don't link an article about 30,000 problem gamblers that existed prior to the Lions making their application!

[AFLcrap1]

I don't know how long AFL has been in NSW and Queensland (TLPG will know I'll bet) but I do know that the AFL presence in those states DWARFS the NRL outside of those states. That's what you don't accept! And hey, the Riverina is hardly sparse when it comes to clubs playing AFL!! But when it comes to sparse competitions, rugby league in the AFL states leaves AFL in the rugby states for dead!

The only reason the game didn't grow in Sydney was because there wasn't a national competition supporting it. That changed in 1982, and then it misfired with that dumb private ownership experiment with Edelsten. It changed for good in 1990. And don't forget that it took the NSWRL four years to catch on and introduce the Broncos and the Raiders, and the AFL knew that Brisbane was ripe so they created the Bears in reply, and added the Eagles to avoid the bye!

Anything else I can help you with, goose? Or do I have to PM TLPG to get him to come back here and give you some more historical facts?

you'd hope that after 100 years the AFL dwarfs rugby league prescense in the southern states, specially when RL hasnt really tried expanding into SA really at all, and only since the western reds and melbourne storm in the 90s has RL tried really in victoria and western australia.

Of course the riverina is hardly sparse, that part of NSW (the part near the VIC border) has been AFL stronghold for 100 years, everyone knows that. its that part of NSW where the MAJORITY of NSW's registered AF players are from. but its defineatly not evident of AFL's expansion into NSW, its not a new AFL market. Sydney shouldnt be classed as a new market either, its been here available to all sydneysiders to play the game if they wanted to it just not many want to.

Lol at how you think the AFL seen brisbane ripe for the taking and created the bears... tell me again where are the bears now? and tell me how are the lions going? lol if they were a private business they would of went insolvent, they are lucky the banks still allow the AFL to go garrentor, but theres only so much money you can borrow, only so long your business can keep running with their heads under the water.

if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does. the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

AFL in Sydney has been around to play but its just not as easily rocking up to the nearest oval and signing up to play, JUST LIKE RUBGY LEAGUE in Melbourne, Adelaide & WA. but its weather people want to play it and weather. the work the AFL has done in Sydney & qld of recent years is only starting to take place

While the pokies have already made a significant imprint on a council region that has more than 30,000 problem gamblers and pumps nearly $100 million a year into the machines, there will soon another mark on the area's pokie map, with the Brisbane Lions poised to house 200 machines in a new Springwood clubhouse given the green light on Tuesday.
The AFL club is yet to reveal when construction will begin on the Lions Den Social Club facility on the corner of Springwood Rd and Pannikin St - the former site of furnishing retailer Ikea - but it will add to Logan's tally of poker machines pending State Government approval.
The council's decision to approve the Lions' development application by a vote of 8-1 has left councillor Sean Black, who has fronted the anti-pokie appeal, seething.
"Logan has not only got more than enough (pokies), it's got real and present problems with the ones we've got," he said.
"It's a social disaster. It's the worst problem facing Logan.
"In Logan I can't find an individual - I cannot find one human on the street in this city - that says `Sean, please, we need more pokies'. They say the complete opposite."
The approval of the Lions' application was an about-face for the councillors, who in October 2008 voted 7-3 to adopt a "no more pokies" policy.



Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... z2velwPNs2

Since the Lions haven't got pokies in Springwood (which they do now - I have been to venue and it appears very popular), I think it's linking 30,000 problem gamblers with the lions application - something that should REALLY be linked to existing clubs - what you and everyone NEVER brings up with this issue is the new procedures clubs have had to put in place when they have known gamblers come into - how much they allow them to remain etc etc - by posting this AFLCRAPPER your trying to link problem gambling in Springwood to AFL - be careful on that because you may not like what you hear!

WTF are you on about.
seriously you fumblemob on here have NO fucking comprehension skills .

As usual Spazzadam made a claim about RL & Pokies ,.
I highlighted it in my post.


See below...
Are you following.
if the lions where in the NRL they would just buy a massive leagues club and make money off the poke's like every other NRL club does.
the AFL sets its club business structure up differently

So i posted a paragraph from a news article about the very same club Spadam was talking about(AFL sets its club business structure up differently).

I highlighted the part about the LIONS opening a pokie palace.
Are you still following?

I once again showed how stupid & what a fucking head up his arse hypocrite Spazzadam is.

How you reached the conclusion that i was linking the gambling problem to the AFL is plain fucking bizarre.

Did i say that..NO.
Did i even hint at that no .

How can any RL poster have a debate on here when the fumblers are not on this planet..
They read something & see something totally different..

Then don't link an article about 30,000 problem gamblers that existed prior to the Lions making their application!

Not my fault you dumb mongs have no comprehension skills .

If i was blaming the AFL for gambling problems in Logan....i would say so.


From the look of that article the journo was questioning why put a club there when there is ALREADY a massive gambling problem .

& i love how you deflect & lie & make connections that are not there ,when i post any negative article (usually to prove one of you fumblingmongs WRONG)about Derpyball.

Straight into defend AFL mode ,ignore the bad press & say the poster is wrong or blaming AFL or some crap like that..


Go away for awhile & take a course on COMPREHENSION & The English Language..
It might help you stop looking so fucking stupid.