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Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:43 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
I have absolutely no issue or illusions about these numbers
then tell Swines
he can't seem to let go of his dick about them :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
Whatever they are they are miles ahead of anything RL related in Australia outside NSW and QLD
& what do they mean



nothing
as no kids in NSW or QLD are taking your bumbling abortion up at club level
that

says volumes :cool:
So you're claiming there are no registered juniors in NSW or QlD? You sure? :[]
Im saying you can have a million participants in NSW & QLD dickhead
all that means is the VFL is keeping its bribing of schools in these states up

but as the Lawson report stated
the important numbers
club numbers in these states

are declining

oh dear :cool:
This is NOT what Lawson claimed at all. Either youre completely stupid or lying. Here's what he claimed:
It is too early to predict the cumulative effect on the health of senior football in Sydney, however, with the growth of senior numbers halving (from 8% to 4%), U18s growth dropping from 12% to 4% and significantly more 100 point victories in 2012 in U18 Division 1 and Premier Divisions, there appears good reason to maintain a watching brief.
So the numbers are still increasing but at a slower rate.

Care to comment Dave? Are you going to call your own source lies? :_<>

but but but :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
declining
its clearly what it is saying

the fumbles & bumbles is doing zippity in NSW & QLD re club rego's


the VFL refuses to state its numbers in this important area for these states

gee
I wonder why :cool:

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:49 pm
by Xman
So now you concede the playing numbers arent declining at all. In fact theyre increasing because the report showed growth is still positive.

Agree or disagree?

AFLc, can you help Dave decipher this? :mrgreen:

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:51 am
by NRLCrap1
How could he, Xman? They already can't get anything else right between them!

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:34 pm
by Swans4ever
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
I have absolutely no issue or illusions about these numbers
then tell Swines
he can't seem to let go of his dick about them :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
Whatever they are they are miles ahead of anything RL related in Australia outside NSW and QLD
& what do they mean



nothing
as no kids in NSW or QLD are taking your bumbling abortion up at club level
that

says volumes :cool:
So you're claiming there are no registered juniors in NSW or QlD? You sure? :[]
Im saying you can have a million participants in NSW & QLD dickhead
all that means is the VFL is keeping its bribing of schools in these states up

but as the Lawson report stated
the important numbers
club numbers in these states

are declining

oh dear :cool:
This is NOT what Lawson claimed at all. Either youre completely stupid or lying. Here's what he claimed:
It is too early to predict the cumulative effect on the health of senior football in Sydney, however, with the growth of senior numbers halving (from 8% to 4%), U18s growth dropping from 12% to 4% and significantly more 100 point victories in 2012 in U18 Division 1 and Premier Divisions, there appears good reason to maintain a watching brief.
So the numbers are still increasing but at a slower rate.

Care to comment Dave? Are you going to call your own source lies? :_<>
Selective in his comments - RD will NEVER admit he's wrong even when shown proof - more half truths and lies!

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:33 pm
by Cracker
The AFL should stop including Auskick in it's participation rates. It's a children's promotional instrument and nothing more than that. The real deal is the actual game, which is not matching Auskick - and not by a long way. It's also folly to include Byron Bay, which is in New South Wales. The figures should stop at Coolangatta.

These figures need to be redone. What is the AFL doing outside of Brisbane and the Gold Coast? Aside from games in Cairns and a practice match in Townsville, nothing from what I'm aware of.

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:01 pm
by Xman
Cracker wrote:
The AFL should stop including Auskick in it's participation rates. It's a children's promotional instrument and nothing more than that. The real deal is the actual game, which is not matching Auskick - and not by a long way. It's also folly to include Byron Bay, which is in New South Wales. The figures should stop at Coolangatta.

These figures need to be redone. What is the AFL doing outside of Brisbane and the Gold Coast? Aside from games in Cairns and a practice match in Townsville, nothing from what I'm aware of.
Auskick is for ages up to 12 so I suggest they include it, as long as it is clearly noted. We are comparing growth after all, and the more kids that play a form of ARs, including Auskick, the more potential growth of the game

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:57 pm
by Cracker
But that growth isn't happening in terms of numbers in club matches, Xman. I saw this in Albury and with the club my business sponsors. The numbers at Auskick aren't flowing on. Until this problem is resolved, it's a false and misleading figure that should not be used.

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:18 pm
by Xman
Cracker wrote:
But that growth isn't happening in terms of numbers in club matches, Xman. I saw this in Albury and with the club my business sponsors. The numbers at Auskick aren't flowing on. Until this problem is resolved, it's a false and misleading figure that should not be used.
True. But NSW club numbers were still increasing according to the Lawson report. Surely youre not claiming an increase in Auskick numbers is bad for the AFL

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:33 pm
by Cracker
I'll leave aside the fact that this thread is about Queensland and not New South Wales. But my response to that is that it's not so much that it's bad. It masks the issue that I mentioned about the lack of flow on. That mask that I speak of is bad for the AFL, not the Auskick numbers themselves as such. One can't rely on a high figure that doesn't flow on. Your assumption is that I think step 1 is bad. It's not. It's step 2 that's bad.

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:39 pm
by AFLcrap1
I agree Cracker .
The ONLY Figure ever released is PARTICIPATION.

It is Highlighted & repeated .
Real growth is measured by actual regular players in club comps..
& seeing as Fumbles had to switch to Sunday as Saturday they couldn't compete,& the fact that REAL playing numbers are never released ,is a sure sign that things are nowhere near as wonderful as the propaganda DEPT make out.

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:43 pm
by Swans4ever
AFLcrap1 wrote:
I agree Cracker .
The ONLY Figure ever released is PARTICIPATION.

It is Highlighted & repeated .
Real growth is measured by actual regular players in club comps..
& seeing as Fumbles had to switch to Sunday as Saturday they couldn't compete,& the fact that REAL playing numbers are never released ,is a sure sign that things are nowhere near as wonderful as the propaganda DEPT make out.
The reason they switched to Sundays aside from greater potential for players from other codes to play is that traditionally junior football is played on a Sunday - Senior footy was always (and still is) played on a Saturday - it's so parents who still play can and kids can go to senior games. By the way junior RL is played on a Saturday so it doesn't clash with AF. It's not big deal!

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:47 pm
by Cracker
I was about to say that if it was junior football he was talking about, Swans4ever.

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:47 pm
by AFLcrap1
& Cracker this is from last yr.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 6574548012
Healthy outlook for sport as juniors sign up in droves

WHILE the world of professional sport lies under a murky cloud, Queensland's pint-sized stars are set to shine, with clubs looking forward to their biggest seasons on record.

A few weeks after registrations for winter sports such as netball, soccer, league and union officially kicked off, major codes are reporting bumper numbers, with tens of thousands of kids flocking to sign-ups.

While fees have increased in some clubs, others have actually seen the cost to parents fall, bringing welcome relief to families.

Football Queensland chief operating officer Ben Mannion said the code was "very happy" with their soccer sign up figures, returning more than 35,000.

"Last year we had 70,000 players register and we're well and truly over half of that in the first couple of weeks," he said.

Mr Mannion said clubs were hoping for their most successful year yet, with World Cup qualifiers and the lead-up to the 2015 Asian Cup expected to fuel a surge of interest in the game.

Costs remain high for parents of kids who want to bend it like Beckham, with fees around $300 or more for registration in some inner-city clubs.

Mr Mannion said while the cost may increase, club fees to Football Australia hadn't risen, and clubs were working to reduce overheads.

Netball Queensland membership services unit manager Ashley Hustwayte said the code was aiming for a record year, outstripping last year's 47,256 registrations.

AFL Queensland community competitions manager Cherie Brockwell said the Brisbane Juniors had surpassed online player registrations for the same period last year, with 7000 participants expected to sign up.

The rugby codes are also looking for growth.

Brisbane Junior Rugby Union competition manager Kim Schuck said it was too early to confirm numbers, but the code was expecting to surpass last year's 8500 registrations in the area.

"It's looking like a really good year and we're looking at our numbers growing again," she said.

She said "very, very few" clubs had raised their fees this year, with most staying the same or even dropping because of better sponsorship deals within the code.

A Queensland Rugby League spokesman said the code was gearing up to beat last year's 46,338 registered players.

"Reports from our people on the ground are that the sign-on days are going really well," he said.

Some sports are hoping that breaking through gender barriers will boost their growth, encouraging girls into traditionally male sports and vice versa.

Last year 600 males participated in netball and Netball Queensland hopes to increase that number and crack into the "untapped market" of male players.

Greater Brisbane Junior Rugby League executive officer Shane McNally said last year the region fielded a representative girls' team and this year they were trying to attract enough female players to form four teams.

"We're trying to grow the girls teams. It's an area that could take massive growth," he said.

Clayfield florist Mandy Ferguson said junior soccer was a great way for her two children Ryder, 8, and Brooklyn, 6, to make friends, get fit and be part of a positive experience.

"My son is very passionate about it. He looks forward to catching up with his friends and having a game and just loves the sport," she said.

Ms Ferguson said she didn't notice any cost rises associated with the sport, and although soccer can be more expensive than other sports it was well worth it.

"For the enjoyment that he gets out of it, I think it's well worth the money. He looks forward to it every week," she said.

This article makes an abslute mockery of the 100K + PARTICIPANTS bullshit..
Fumbleball is 5th in brissy,yet the propaganda DEPT trots out 100K plus ..

Reality & a fumblefan are not in the same POSTCODE.

Yet some read the 100K article & are convinced that AFL is taking over or already NO 1 in SEQ.

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:48 pm
by Xman
Cracker wrote:
I'll leave aside the fact that this thread is about Queensland and not New South Wales. But my response to that is that it's not so much that it's bad. It masks the issue that I mentioned about the lack of flow on. That mask that I speak of is bad for the AFL, not the Auskick numbers themselves as such. One can't rely on a high figure that doesn't flow on. Your assumption is that I think step 1 is bad. It's not. It's step 2 that's bad.
But last we saw step 2 was still increasing, just not as quickly as the year before. I agree the report should state registered player numbers. Hoever a substantial increase in Auskick numbers is still a good thing IMO. Same as it would be if RL had a similar junior program exposing kids to RL in Victoria, and it was growing quickly. It opens peoples mind to another sport

Re: REPORT CARD QLD

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:49 pm
by Xman
AFLcrap1 wrote:
& Cracker this is from last yr.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 6574548012
Healthy outlook for sport as juniors sign up in droves

WHILE the world of professional sport lies under a murky cloud, Queensland's pint-sized stars are set to shine, with clubs looking forward to their biggest seasons on record.

A few weeks after registrations for winter sports such as netball, soccer, league and union officially kicked off, major codes are reporting bumper numbers, with tens of thousands of kids flocking to sign-ups.

While fees have increased in some clubs, others have actually seen the cost to parents fall, bringing welcome relief to families.

Football Queensland chief operating officer Ben Mannion said the code was "very happy" with their soccer sign up figures, returning more than 35,000.

"Last year we had 70,000 players register and we're well and truly over half of that in the first couple of weeks," he said.

Mr Mannion said clubs were hoping for their most successful year yet, with World Cup qualifiers and the lead-up to the 2015 Asian Cup expected to fuel a surge of interest in the game.

Costs remain high for parents of kids who want to bend it like Beckham, with fees around $300 or more for registration in some inner-city clubs.

Mr Mannion said while the cost may increase, club fees to Football Australia hadn't risen, and clubs were working to reduce overheads.

Netball Queensland membership services unit manager Ashley Hustwayte said the code was aiming for a record year, outstripping last year's 47,256 registrations.

AFL Queensland community competitions manager Cherie Brockwell said the Brisbane Juniors had surpassed online player registrations for the same period last year, with 7000 participants expected to sign up.

The rugby codes are also looking for growth.

Brisbane Junior Rugby Union competition manager Kim Schuck said it was too early to confirm numbers, but the code was expecting to surpass last year's 8500 registrations in the area.

"It's looking like a really good year and we're looking at our numbers growing again," she said.

She said "very, very few" clubs had raised their fees this year, with most staying the same or even dropping because of better sponsorship deals within the code.

A Queensland Rugby League spokesman said the code was gearing up to beat last year's 46,338 registered players.

"Reports from our people on the ground are that the sign-on days are going really well," he said.

Some sports are hoping that breaking through gender barriers will boost their growth, encouraging girls into traditionally male sports and vice versa.

Last year 600 males participated in netball and Netball Queensland hopes to increase that number and crack into the "untapped market" of male players.

Greater Brisbane Junior Rugby League executive officer Shane McNally said last year the region fielded a representative girls' team and this year they were trying to attract enough female players to form four teams.

"We're trying to grow the girls teams. It's an area that could take massive growth," he said.

Clayfield florist Mandy Ferguson said junior soccer was a great way for her two children Ryder, 8, and Brooklyn, 6, to make friends, get fit and be part of a positive experience.

"My son is very passionate about it. He looks forward to catching up with his friends and having a game and just loves the sport," she said.

Ms Ferguson said she didn't notice any cost rises associated with the sport, and although soccer can be more expensive than other sports it was well worth it.

"For the enjoyment that he gets out of it, I think it's well worth the money. He looks forward to it every week," she said.

This article makes an abslute mockery of the 100K + PARTICIPANTS bullshit..
Fumbleball is 5th in brissy,yet the propaganda DEPT trots out 100K plus ..

Reality & a fumblefan are not in the same POSTCODE.

Yet some read the 100K article & are convinced that AFL is taking over or already NO 1 in SEQ.
Why are you so offended. Everyone knows they include Auskick. So what??