all the supreme athletes choose league

[Xman]

Can't believe the suckers that get sucked in ...people,saying AFL has no skill are either idiots or trolling, either way a response is not warranted

You got to admit though Xman and NCrapper are pretty big suckers so not that surprising is it Phelpsey?

Both games have skills all be it different. The only time they have gone head to head is in the Rexona Challenge and we know how that ended up.

. The AFL guys did ok.

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ok ?

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they were embarrassing
much like the sport they play :_<> :_<> :_<>

Other than slater they did better than Sailor or Taqiri :>::

The AFL chose players who were too big, and like all other bigger athletes in the comp, they were disadvantaged. The only smaller midfielder they selected was Deludio, who did ok, except he couldn't swim

[AFLcrap1]

Is this the same Bert Dildo ,who was an All Victardian ,won numerous awards ,could have beat usain Bolt at the Olympics.
He was supposedly THe BEST young fumbler & Slater smashed him..
Funny how now fumblers don't like going head to head with other sportsmen in any events.
they are shown up as far from the great athletes that the fans think they are.

[NRLCrap1]

Can't believe the suckers that get sucked in ...people,saying AFL has no skill are either idiots or trolling, either way a response is not warranted

You got to admit though Xman and NCrapper are pretty big suckers so not that surprising is it Phelpsey?

Both games have skills all be it different. The only time they have gone head to head is in the Rexona Challenge and we know how that ended up.

It was a hit and miss load of bullshit for ratings and nothing more. And it stiffed because we all worked out that it wasn't a true challenge. And I agree with Xman.

Rugby league players are trained to tackle and throw. Only some kick and even fewer kick for points.

AFL players are trained to tackle, contest, kick and handpass. All of them with no specialists as such.

That shows what is the more skilled game.

[Xman]

Is this the same Bert Dildo ,who was an All Victardian ,won numerous awards ,could have beat usain Bolt at the Olympics.
He was supposedly THe BEST young fumbler & Slater smashed him..
Funny how now fumblers don't like going head to head with other sportsmen in any events.
they are shown up as far from the great athletes that the fans think they are.

Deledio, the best AFL player? Hes had one All Australian, no brownlow, two best and fairests in a very ordinary tigers team. He would struggle to get in the top 50 AFL players

He did ok in the Rexona challenge anyway, finishing third. As I said, his weakness was swimming which made up proportions of two events.

[King-Eliagh]

Lets get some factual evidence based info in here ok folks.

From observing and playing both codes I know that NRL Players are bigger, tougher, meaner, more aggressive, faster, stronger, and have more explosive power and agility. And to break it on down.

Bigger - If anyone contests this then please produce avg weights for us all to see

Tougher, meaner, more aggressive - Having played both codes I can attest that the tougher, meaner and more aggressive lads are in RL. When they cop a big hit they get up quicker. When they cop an unfair hit they give it back. Every charge and tackle requires significantly more aggression than anything on the marngrook pitch.

Faster - Bit of a no brainer, there's been numerous NRL players who run sub 11.5 second hundreds. As raiderdave has told us the AFL lads are more trained in "trotting". But again anyone who thinks AFL players have the fastest of the two codes give us the stats.

Stronger - Ahh just look at the physiques.

More explosive - again the physiques + speed of RL players shows us the answer here.

More agile - Sideways speed is a key aspect for all backline players in RL. The structure of the sport requires high levels of agility. In Marngrook its much less necessary as the field is 'wide open' and the opposition are at nowhere near as close quarters. Endurance trotting is again a more important element for your marngrooker.

So yes, LEague clearly has the superior athletes.

[NRLCrap1]

Bigger - Bad thing if you want to play AFL. Karmichael Hunt had to slim down.
Tougher - Depends on your defintion. Physical I would say about the same on average. Mental is definitely AFL win.
Meaner - Bad thing if you want to play AFL. Too mean brings the tribunal down on you. (This also applies to aggression)
Faster - AFL wins because it's a faster game. Many AFL players also run sub 11.5 second hundreds. "Trotting" is additional for endurance.
Stronger - See what I said about "Tougher".
More explosive - Debatable.
More agile - HAH! AFL wins this by a mile! Even with the bigger field you have to be able to jump and change direction (not just sideways) in a split second!
And you missed the important one - endurance. AFL wins this one again by a mile!

So NO, Rugby league does NOT clearly have the superior athletes!!

[King-Eliagh]

AFL wins endurance and none of the other I'm afraid my lil crap1.

In terms of tougher we are talking about "athlete", not politician. Furthermore you've not even shown an argument as to why AFL players would be more mentally tough or physically the same...because you cant. Poor argumentation again crap boy. Please refer to my 'lesson one'' in the forum issues thread again The rise of faking injury as in soccer within the AFL shows us all who's tougher

Secondly and again, in regards to faster we're talking about ''athlete'' not ''game'' you silly twat mouthed bunyip. How's this young RL player for pace? http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl- ... 6544518313 Akuila Uate runs it in about 10.5 and came third in the national aussie juniors. Any of this calibre you can find for AFL? Your argument again is completely illegitimate, as you may well be as a child. Please try harder dear crap.

Your other points have already been nullified apart from the one re agility. Jumping in both sports is much much more connected to explosive power not agility you silly goon. we're not talking about ballet though some people might suggest those lads in the short shorts look a lil more balletesque than tough footy players. The sports med definition of agility is

Definition: Agility is the ability to move and change direction and position of the body quickly and effectively while under control.

Sure this is required in marngrook but not nearly as much as nor as important as on the RL field. Side steps kinda aren't as big a thing in marngrook now are they?

Another free lesson. no please, don't thank me crap1, I get intrinsically rewarded each time I learn you good :-+ :_<>

[NRLCrap1]

AFL wins endurance and none of the other I'm afraid my lil crap1.

You don't know what you're talking about. I remember reading that no one believes you've played either sport. Judging by this trash, you haven't. The fact that you don't believe mental toughness is important in any sport let alone AFL or rugby league is proof of that!

[AFLcrap1]

AFL wins endurance and none of the other I'm afraid my lil crap1.

You don't know what you're talking about. I remember reading that no one believes you've played either sport. Judging by this trash, you haven't. The fact that you don't believe mental toughness is important in any sport let alone AFL or rugby league is proof of that!

Jesus you mob are delusional..

The fact that your game can have 100+ interchanges per game per side shows how mentally soft they are.

RL has 10 per side..
When you are stuffed you have to push yourself mentally, not get subbed on & off continuously.

[AFLcrap1]

Is this the same Bert Dildo ,who was an All Victardian ,won numerous awards ,could have beat usain Bolt at the Olympics.
He was supposedly THe BEST young fumbler & Slater smashed him..
Funny how now fumblers don't like going head to head with other sportsmen in any events.
they are shown up as far from the great athletes that the fans think they are.

Deledio, the best AFL player? Hes had one All Australian, no brownlow, two best and fairests in a very ordinary tigers team. He would struggle to get in the top 50 AFL players

He did ok in the Rexona challenge anyway, finishing third. As I said, his weakness was swimming which made up proportions of two events.

Jesus I am having fun with your bullshit today..

Bert dildo was considered an Elite in fumbleball & had far more honours than you credit him for..
Is that because he got smashed by our midget ex jockey...
He was considered hot shit in Victardia ,but when out of the bubble got shown up.


Wow you missed a lot.

He was the first overall selection in the 2004 AFL Draft On 31 August 2005
, Deledio was awarded for his outstanding season with the AFL Rising Star award, receiving 43 of a possible 45 votes.
Deledio followed his Rising Star Award by also winning the AFL Players' Association Best First-Year Player Award, voted by his peer players.
Deledio was also considered to be the fastest or one of the fastest players in the league, winning the 2005 AFL Grand Final Sprint.



Capping off his debut season, Deledio was chosen to represent Australia in the International Rules series for 2005, becoming the youngest Australian player in the competition's history.

He was also announced in the 40 man All Australian squad for 2008.

Deledio was rewarded for his consistent season with the Richmond Best and Fairest,in 2008

& in 2009
Deledio was rewarded for another consistent season by winning the Richmond Best and Fairest


2011
Deledio was picked in the 40 man All-Australian squad.


Another Stellar season so far in 2012 sees' the richmond superstar step up, and become one of the leagues most valuable players. In The "Dreamtime at the G" Clash in round 8, Brett Deledio starred for the Tigers, racking up 35 possessions to win the Yiooken Award as the best player on the ground.[8] Averaging 28.0 possessions a game this year, he has proved yet again so far to the Richmond faithful that he is a strong hardy midfielder/defender who has claimed an elite status in the game..

Sounds like he was considered well up in the top 50..


like shooting fish in a barrel proving you fumblers talk shit or straight out lie.

[Xman]

Is this the same Bert Dildo ,who was an All Victardian ,won numerous awards ,could have beat usain Bolt at the Olympics.
He was supposedly THe BEST young fumbler & Slater smashed him..
Funny how now fumblers don't like going head to head with other sportsmen in any events.
they are shown up as far from the great athletes that the fans think they are.

Deledio, the best AFL player? Hes had one All Australian, no brownlow, two best and fairests in a very ordinary tigers team. He would struggle to get in the top 50 AFL players

He did ok in the Rexona challenge anyway, finishing third. As I said, his weakness was swimming which made up proportions of two events.

Jesus I am having fun with your bullshit today..

Bert dildo was considered an Elite in fumbleball & had far more honours than you credit him for..
Is that because he got smashed by our midget ex jockey...
He was considered hot shit in Victardia ,but when out of the bubble got shown up.


Wow you missed a lot.

He was the first overall selection in the 2004 AFL Draft On 31 August 2005
, Deledio was awarded for his outstanding season with the AFL Rising Star award, receiving 43 of a possible 45 votes.
Deledio followed his Rising Star Award by also winning the AFL Players' Association Best First-Year Player Award, voted by his peer players.
Deledio was also considered to be the fastest or one of the fastest players in the league, winning the 2005 AFL Grand Final Sprint.



Capping off his debut season, Deledio was chosen to represent Australia in the International Rules series for 2005, becoming the youngest Australian player in the competition's history.

He was also announced in the 40 man All Australian squad for 2008.

Deledio was rewarded for his consistent season with the Richmond Best and Fairest,in 2008

& in 2009
Deledio was rewarded for another consistent season by winning the Richmond Best and Fairest


2011
Deledio was picked in the 40 man All-Australian squad.


Another Stellar season so far in 2012 sees' the richmond superstar step up, and become one of the leagues most valuable players. In The "Dreamtime at the G" Clash in round 8, Brett Deledio starred for the Tigers, racking up 35 possessions to win the Yiooken Award as the best player on the ground.[8] Averaging 28.0 possessions a game this year, he has proved yet again so far to the Richmond faithful that he is a strong hardy midfielder/defender who has claimed an elite status in the game..

Sounds like he was considered well up in the top 50..


like shooting fish in a barrel proving you fumblers talk shit or straight out lie.

You have no idea what your talking about. The only people who thought Deludio was in the AFLs elite were Richmond supporters. Despite being a decent midfielder in a crap side he was only 31st in Mike Sheahans top 50 last year, at an age he should be at the peak of his powers. Compare that to Slater who was considered your best player, or at least in the top few.

This is another case of you reading posts from a few people and thinking the entire AFL agrees. :_<>

I notice you continue to ignore the fact Sailor and Tuqiri were absolute failures. Werent they decent RL players?

[King-Eliagh]

AFL wins endurance and none of the other I'm afraid my lil crap1.

You don't know what you're talking about. I remember reading that no one believes you've played either sport. Judging by this trash, you haven't. The fact that you don't believe mental toughness is important in any sport let alone AFL or rugby league is proof of that!

Tut tut now, you keep to the topic. You've not been able to argue against any of my points so', as your educator I'd like you to now bow down and say "mercy"



ps beaussie I think now would be a good time you show some guts and tell em what you know about me on the marngrook field.

[AFLcrap1]

Is this the same Bert Dildo ,who was an All Victardian ,won numerous awards ,could have beat usain Bolt at the Olympics.
He was supposedly THe BEST young fumbler & Slater smashed him..
Funny how now fumblers don't like going head to head with other sportsmen in any events.
they are shown up as far from the great athletes that the fans think they are.

Deledio, the best AFL player? Hes had one All Australian, no brownlow, two best and fairests in a very ordinary tigers team. He would struggle to get in the top 50 AFL players

He did ok in the Rexona challenge anyway, finishing third. As I said, his weakness was swimming which made up proportions of two events.

Jesus I am having fun with your bullshit today..

Bert dildo was considered an Elite in fumbleball & had far more honours than you credit him for..
Is that because he got smashed by our midget ex jockey...
He was considered hot shit in Victardia ,but when out of the bubble got shown up.


Wow you missed a lot.

He was the first overall selection in the 2004 AFL Draft On 31 August 2005
, Deledio was awarded for his outstanding season with the AFL Rising Star award, receiving 43 of a possible 45 votes.
Deledio followed his Rising Star Award by also winning the AFL Players' Association Best First-Year Player Award, voted by his peer players.
Deledio was also considered to be the fastest or one of the fastest players in the league, winning the 2005 AFL Grand Final Sprint.



Capping off his debut season, Deledio was chosen to represent Australia in the International Rules series for 2005, becoming the youngest Australian player in the competition's history.

He was also announced in the 40 man All Australian squad for 2008.

Deledio was rewarded for his consistent season with the Richmond Best and Fairest,in 2008

& in 2009
Deledio was rewarded for another consistent season by winning the Richmond Best and Fairest


2011
Deledio was picked in the 40 man All-Australian squad.


Another Stellar season so far in 2012 sees' the richmond superstar step up, and become one of the leagues most valuable players. In The "Dreamtime at the G" Clash in round 8, Brett Deledio starred for the Tigers, racking up 35 possessions to win the Yiooken Award as the best player on the ground.[8] Averaging 28.0 possessions a game this year, he has proved yet again so far to the Richmond faithful that he is a strong hardy midfielder/defender who has claimed an elite status in the game..

Sounds like he was considered well up in the top 50..


like shooting fish in a barrel proving you fumblers talk shit or straight out lie.

You have no idea what your talking about. The only people who thought Deludio was in the AFLs elite were Richmond supporters. Despite being a decent midfielder in a crap side he was only 31st in Mike Sheahans top 50 last year, at an age he should be at the peak of his powers. Compare that to Slater who was considered your best player, or at least in the top few.

This is another case of you reading posts from a few people and thinking the entire AFL agrees. :_<>

I notice you continue to ignore the fact Sailor and Tuqiri were absolute failures. Werent they decent RL players?

Did you & Crapper go to the same school.?


Dildo won those awards ..Nothing to do with Richmond fans (other than their B & F..

The first paragraph I posted Showed what you wrote is utter crap..'

Again ..
& can you show me where Richmond fans had a say in any of these,

He was the first overall selection in the 2004 AFL Draft On 31 August 2005...so that's because Richmond fans have everything to do with the draft
, Deledio was awarded for his outstanding season with the AFL Rising Star award, receiving 43 of a possible 45 votes.(43 of those voters were Richmond fans)
Deledio followed his Rising Star Award by also winning the AFL Players' Association Best First-Year Player Award, voted by his peer players.(so every player in the AFL is a closest Richmond fan)

What fucking planet do you fumblefans live on ..I am serious....You can read something factual & completely ignore it or make up some bullshit to explain it..

He was considered a top AFL player ,yet when he got beaten ,suddenly he was no good..

[Xman]

Deludio has won....a spot in the all Australian team, meaning he was in the top 40 players of that season. This was once, a season good enough to make the top 40.... =D>

He was drafted number 1, meaning he showed the best potential amongst the midfield of the draft of that year. This doesn't mean he is one of the best players in the AFL. In fact here are the number 1 picks over the last decade or so and only a few would be considered elite after their carrier developed

1989 Anthony Banik Richmond Won Wron Woodside Football Club Alberton Football League
1990 Stephen Hooper Geelong East Perth WAFL
1991 John Hutton Brisbane Bears Claremont WAFL
1992 Drew Banfield West Coast Eagles Subiaco WAFL
1993 Darren Gaspar Sydney South Fremantle WAFL
1994 Jeff White Fremantle Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup
1995 Clive Waterhouse Fremantle Port Adelaide Magpies SANFL
1996 Michael Gardiner West Coast Eagles Claremont WAFL
1997 Travis Johnstone Melbourne Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup
1998 Des Headland Brisbane Lions Subiaco WAFL
1999 Josh Fraser Collingwood Murray Bushrangers TAC Cup
2000 Nick Riewoldt St Kilda Southport Sharks QAFL
2001 Luke Hodge Hawthorn Geelong Falcons TAC Cup
2002 Brendon Goddard St Kilda Gippsland Power TAC Cup
2003 Adam Cooney Western Bulldogs West Adelaide SANFL
2004 Brett Deledio Richmond Murray Bushrangers TAC Cup
2005 Marc Murphy Carlton Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup
2006 Bryce Gibbs Carlton Glenelg SANFL
2007 Matthew Kreuzer Carlton Northern Knights TAC Cup
2008 Jack Watts Melbourne Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup
2009 Tom Scully Melbourne Dandenong Stingrays TAC Cup

Also In the 2004 draft, Griffin, Roughead and Franklin have proven far better players.

Rising star award. A good effort but only an indication, again, that he was an outstanding junior. In fact he was also invited to train with the Victorian cricket team by David Hookes, but chose AFL, so he was obviously a decent athlete as a kid

Best and fairest for Richmond twice. Wow, now there's an achievement.... :_<>

So no, he is not an AFL elite player. A decent athlete no doubt, but Sheahan judged 30 players better only last year.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/AFL ... 6287434080
Here is Sheahans top 50 for the last decade.
2005 Deledio won the rising star award but didnt make the top 50....
2006 didnt make it
2007 didnt make it
2008 50th
2009 41st
2010 didnt make it
2011 37
2012 49
2013 31

Wow, what an A fL elite....


The Rexona comp is a farce anyway. It is grossly weighted towards smaller athletes.

[King-Eliagh]

Actually I have an issue with the title now. I really don't think the reason RL players are stronger, faster, meaner, more powerful and agile is because the supreme athletes choose RL. No. It's surely RL which in fact is what makes them superior athletes.

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