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This is my fave.

When AFL NSW applied to Leichhardt Council to install AFL goal posts on rugby league's birthplace, Birchgrove Oval, it withdrew when asked to verify its playing numbers.
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Now why woud that be.
Caught out lying yet again.. :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/

But to you whatever they say is true.
& you wonder why you fumbletard fans get laughed at
I don't think there is any point debating with you - you have your opinions set in concrete and I don't care what you have to say - it won't affect how I think about AF!
So you don't like to talk about the LIES that are told about AFL playing numbers...Thought so ,you are weasiling out,& avoiding the FACT that you are getting excited about numbers you know are dodgy,so your answer is to run....

Go bury your head in the sand .. :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/
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214Four wrote:
look when a person is caught out bullshiting in the past would you straight away believe what they have to say?
Who's bullshitting? Not that report. It's factual, and you're reflection that you haven't seen it only proves that you don't know where to look or when!
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214Four wrote:
look when a person is caught out bullshiting in the past would you straight away believe what they have to say?
Who's bullshitting? Not that report. It's factual, and you're reflection that you haven't seen it only proves that you don't know where to look or when!
Ok so im guessing you either dont know or choose to ignore the recent past when this same organisation (NSW AFL) were caught out numerous times lieing and fudging its figures on the same subjects that this 'Factual" document has. Why would this one only contain truthful infomation when NSW AFL seemed more than happy in the past to include fictional statistics and only admitting to it being wrong when they were caught out by the NSW Government.

Even after they were caught out NSW AFL still thought it was ok to try using more misleading and false participation/player numbers again to the NSW government. afterwards they tried to save face and say it was all just an accident and the confusion(the lies and fudged figures) were all because of an accidental use of wrong postcodes.

like i said in an earlier post, NSW AFL have been caught out more than once lieing about simular statistics and even when they were caught out they still tried to bullshit, so you can believe this if you really want to(i know deep down you want it to be true because it makes AFL cronies like yourself believe AFL is 'the greatest game on earth' or the MCG is the best stadium in the world' yadda yadda....)

So my suggestion is for you to pop another couple of pills, lay down, fall asleep and dream....dream and float off to that little parradise you've created in your mind. you know the place where everyone loves to wear singlets with pictures of eagles or anchors etc on them, and where rugby league was never invented and where everybody comes to hear your wisdom on life...
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No I suggest you show me this report that you say NSW AFL is fudging figures on. The Lawson Report it was called. Link it!

Until you do, you are bullshitting.
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214Four wrote:
NRLCrap1 wrote:
214Four wrote:
look when a person is caught out bullshiting in the past would you straight away believe what they have to say?
Who's bullshitting? Not that report. It's factual, and you're reflection that you haven't seen it only proves that you don't know where to look or when!
Ok so im guessing you either dont know or choose to ignore the recent past when this same organisation (NSW AFL) were caught out numerous times lieing and fudging its figures on the same subjects that this 'Factual" document has. Why would this one only contain truthful infomation when NSW AFL seemed more than happy in the past to include fictional statistics and only admitting to it being wrong when they were caught out by the NSW Government.

Even after they were caught out NSW AFL still thought it was ok to try using more misleading and false participation/player numbers again to the NSW government. afterwards they tried to save face and say it was all just an accident and the confusion(the lies and fudged figures) were all because of an accidental use of wrong postcodes.

like i said in an earlier post, NSW AFL have been caught out more than once lieing about simular statistics and even when they were caught out they still tried to bullshit, so you can believe this if you really want to(i know deep down you want it to be true because it makes AFL cronies like yourself believe AFL is 'the greatest game on earth' or the MCG is the best stadium in the world' yadda yadda....)

So my suggestion is for you to pop another couple of pills, lay down, fall asleep and dream....dream and float off to that little parradise you've created in your mind. you know the place where everyone loves to wear singlets with pictures of eagles or anchors etc on them, and where rugby league was never invented and where everybody comes to hear your wisdom on life...
Look the Lawson report didn't say the numbers were fudged just that senior and junior club regos had gone down since 2009 and that Auskick numbers had increased with no flow on to junior leagues. This year ALL junior leagues increased which may mean those Auskickers are now going onto junior leagues. Now the simple fact is that ALL those leagues exist and have clubs - it's a fact so unless your saying they don't exist - put up a source which contradict it in 2013 - your relying on ancient history as proof - well if that's the case then we should say that soccer is just a bastion for violence and is only played by ethnic minorities (which would also be a misinformed and ignorant statement) or that RL is controlled by News ltd or that RU private school boys again all just history now.
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No I suggest you show me this report that you say NSW AFL is fudging figures on. The Lawson Report it was called. Link it!

Until you do, you are bullshitting.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/get_file.cgi?id=2148289
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This part shows how schools(probably paid to include AUSFUMBLE) are included in Participation numbers.
Yet very few of the kids are interested...
But what do the AFL do ,include them as if they are clamouring to sign up & play.

In the chase for participant numbers in NSW and ACT, a shortened and often subsidised version of Auskick has been aggressively rolled out in primary schools (In-School Auskick) and after-school centres (Community Auskick). The In-School participants have rarely elected to join an Auskick program. Their school has chosen to include an Auskick program.


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Then the truth which the fumblers cannot handle..


1. Western Sydney – The Reality versus Perception Gap
The reality is that junior club maturity and participation numbers appear to have stalled. There are 6% less junior/youth players in 2012 than in 2009. The perception, however, is that the game is growing well. This perception is supported by masking low junior club numbers with Auskick numbers (Club, School and Community Auskick) and school program numbers. This optimistic, bullish perception is needed to market the game, however this perception urgently needs to be underpinned by committed junior club participants.
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NRLCrap1 wrote:
No I suggest you show me this report that you say NSW AFL is fudging figures on. The Lawson Report it was called. Link it!

Until you do, you are bullshitting.
Still waiting, 214. Put up or shut up.
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AFLcrap1 wrote:
NRLCrap1 wrote:
No I suggest you show me this report that you say NSW AFL is fudging figures on. The Lawson Report it was called. Link it!

Until you do, you are bullshitting.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/get_file.cgi?id=2148289
AS they say in a game of Poker .Read em & weep.
:(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/

This part shows how schools(probably paid to include AUSFUMBLE) are included in Participation numbers.
Yet very few of the kids are interested...
But what do the AFL do ,include them as if they are clamouring to sign up & play.

In the chase for participant numbers in NSW and ACT, a shortened and often subsidised version of Auskick has been aggressively rolled out in primary schools (In-School Auskick) and after-school centres (Community Auskick). The In-School participants have rarely elected to join an Auskick program. Their school has chosen to include an Auskick program.


:(/ :(/

Then the truth which the fumblers cannot handle..


1. Western Sydney – The Reality versus Perception Gap
The reality is that junior club maturity and participation numbers appear to have stalled. There are 6% less junior/youth players in 2012 than in 2009. The perception, however, is that the game is growing well. This perception is supported by masking low junior club numbers with Auskick numbers (Club, School and Community Auskick) and school program numbers. This optimistic, bullish perception is needed to market the game, however this perception urgently needs to be underpinned by committed junior club participants.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
The fumble fans...Vlads target audience drink the koolaid ,& lap up the bullshit without question...
Sad sad lot really
Again 2012 report - obviously you have difficulty addressing 2013 numbers ......so it's back to any time that favours your argument - so you obviously feel an urgent need to be right! Pitty it's now 2014 so a report in October 2012 talking about 2011 really has no bearing on the 2013 figures.
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Swans4ever wrote:
AFLcrap1 wrote:
NRLCrap1 wrote:
No I suggest you show me this report that you say NSW AFL is fudging figures on. The Lawson Report it was called. Link it!

Until you do, you are bullshitting.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/get_file.cgi?id=2148289
AS they say in a game of Poker .Read em & weep.
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This part shows how schools(probably paid to include AUSFUMBLE) are included in Participation numbers.
Yet very few of the kids are interested...
But what do the AFL do ,include them as if they are clamouring to sign up & play.

In the chase for participant numbers in NSW and ACT, a shortened and often subsidised version of Auskick has been aggressively rolled out in primary schools (In-School Auskick) and after-school centres (Community Auskick). The In-School participants have rarely elected to join an Auskick program. Their school has chosen to include an Auskick program.


:(/ :(/

Then the truth which the fumblers cannot handle..


1. Western Sydney – The Reality versus Perception Gap
The reality is that junior club maturity and participation numbers appear to have stalled. There are 6% less junior/youth players in 2012 than in 2009. The perception, however, is that the game is growing well. This perception is supported by masking low junior club numbers with Auskick numbers (Club, School and Community Auskick) and school program numbers. This optimistic, bullish perception is needed to market the game, however this perception urgently needs to be underpinned by committed junior club participants.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
The fumble fans...Vlads target audience drink the koolaid ,& lap up the bullshit without question...
Sad sad lot really
so a report in October 2012 talking about 2011 really has no bearing on the 2013 figures.
hmmmmm :-k

so... not only can this dribbler not spell or write legibly
it appears .... he can't read either :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

a report about about 2011 eh

ahem
this directly from the report

" There are 6% less junior/youth players in 2012 "

that's
2012

fuck me :(/ :(/ :lol: :lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :_<>
they are an embarrassment this lot
it can be there in front of them in 6 inch font ... & they still fail to see it :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :(/ :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
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and its another example of fumblers & the point being in different time zones

they post VFL propaganda relating to participation figures
we post examples of the VFL being caught out straight out lying about their figures .... & reports commissioned by the VFL itself stating there is a perception that VFL is doing well playing numbers wise in NSW when the reality is something else.
the report is clearly saying that it is a misrepresentation of data to say the VFL is doing well as it is clearly ... NOT :cool:

& the reaction of the singlet clad dribblers in here

so

so

that's an old report .... :evil:


ahhhhhh
nothing has changed
the VFL lies
their figures are rubbery at best
the VFL is failing in NSW

that is all :wink:
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Good report. Good to see them talk about specific competition and club numbers rather than just talk about auskick numbers. It gives everyone a much better understanding about the real numbers.
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Good report. Good to see them talk about specific competition and club numbers rather than just talk about auskick numbers. It gives everyone a much better understanding about the real numbers.
Real numbers & anything released by AFL house are usually in different postcodes.
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I personally think real issue for RL fans shouldn't be any increase in AR numbers in NSW but the major decrease in RL junior numbers

For example numbers dropped from 68,100 to 59,100 in 3 years. About 8.7%. I wasn't able to find any more up to date post 2009 results.

http://www.dsr.nsw.gov.au/research/fact ... hild06.asp.
http://www.dsr.nsw.gov.au/research/fact ... hild09.asp.
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AFLcrap1 wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Good report. Good to see them talk about specific competition and club numbers rather than just talk about auskick numbers. It gives everyone a much better understanding about the real numbers.
Real numbers & anything released by AFL house are usually in different postcodes.
Untrue. They make mistakes and they talk to much about auskick numbers which are then compared by some who don't know much to club numbers. But that don't intentionally make up numbers like you are trying to claim.
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piesman2011 wrote:
I personally think real issue for RL fans shouldn't be any increase in AR numbers in NSW but the major decrease in RL junior numbers

For example numbers dropped from 68,100 to 59,100 in 3 years. About 8.7%. I wasn't able to find any more up to date post 2009 results.

http://www.dsr.nsw.gov.au/research/fact ... hild06.asp.
http://www.dsr.nsw.gov.au/research/fact ... hild09.asp.

ahhhhh
that's utter crap ..... RL junior participation numbers in NSW are at an all time high as they are nationally
with junior club registered playing numbers at 167,553 in NSW & QLD alone in 2012 & over 173,000 in 2013 grows at a rate of 4 to 5% each year as you'll see in the article below.
the ABS seem to pull figures out of their arse & none of them relate or are even close ... to any sport's official figures :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/
I'm yet to see a sports figures correlate with the ABS's
public servant tools :(/ :(/ :(/


THEY get jerseys, shirts, socks and registration paid for them so these two junior Rugby League players in Sydney's south just have to keep their eye on the football.

Rugby league is charging its elite juniors no registration fees in stark contrast to soccer where families pay up to $2400 a season for their children to play at higher levels.

Competition between the major winter codes to increase their junior numbers is set to intensify in the New Year amid revelations of huge disparities in fee structures between league and soccer.

While families with several talented children can pay more than $7000 to play elite level soccer, thousands of rugby league juniors are not charged for registration and many also receive their playing kit for free.

HIGH REGISTRATION FEES KILLING RDEAMS OF YOUNG SOCCER STARS

Teenagers who make it into higher competitions in league are often paid to play _ $2000 or $3000 for many and the most gifted players can receive more than $10,000 in assistance.

Rugby league sources said yesterday the support came through scholarships and financial assistance from local communities, businesses and licensed clubs who all kicked in along with the sport itself.

Soccer, now with 200,000 registered players across NSW, has benefited from a perception among many parents that it is a safer and less violent sport, but it is battling a backlash over the high fees families with elite juniors are charged.

Rugby league, which has 173,000 kids playing in NSW and Queensland and numbers growing at 4 to 5 per cent a year,
League administrators are moving to counter perceptions that their sport is too physical for younger children, introducing modified rules and skills-based programs for kids aged as young as four.

Rugby league also is commissioning new research into the nature and extent of injuries suffered by players in various codes which they expect will show that league does not fare badly in comparison.

The NRL's general manager of league integration and game development Andrew Hill said yesterday: "Rugby league has been very lucky for many years to have had great support from communities, businesses and licensed clubs.

"This has enabled our junior clubs to keep registration fees at a low cost for families.

"Weekend league representative competitions have no registration costs associated with our teams and all weekend registered junior players get free entry to NRL games through the schoolboy pass scheme."

Mr Hill said modified rules for juniors made league a very safe sport and the commitment to families included qualified coaches, referees and first aid officers from age six grade upwards.

While about 4 per cent of the state's 200,000 soccer players make the elite level, around 1000 league players are selected for the top under 16 and under 18 competitions. League bosses said the "vast majority" of their young players received financial assistance.

Football NSW said it had an "ongoing commitment to ensuring football remains an affordable sport".

"Various clubs offer special discounts for players and families experiencing hardship," a spokesman said.

"This is a matter for the respective clubs and their resources to assist and support particular players in need."

Player fees in soccer go towards funding accident support and insurance to cover referees, coaches, volunteers and clubs.

Andrew Nikas is the Secretary of the Maroubra Rugby League Football Club and has two boys, Matthew and Mark, playing within its ranks in the under 10s and under 7s.

He said some of the kids at the club wouldn't be able to play if they weren't kitted out for free by generous grants from South Sydney Juniors.

"South Sydney Juniors provide the kids with a jersey, shorts, socks and registration is free," Mr Nikas said. "Maroubra RLFC doesn't have to buy any gear for the kids.

"They also provide our club with a grant every year as well as the other clubs in the district," he said. "That helps the club pay for trophies, kids on development camps and any other function during the year like a presentation night."
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