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Yea, just ignore the fact that the number of games doubled.

I'll do the same to AFL; in 1962 crowds averaged 28173, in 2012 they were 32748. the pathetic shit show that it is. :cheers:

AFL will always pull bigger crowds in australia, it's a spectator sport. Hope one day you can break in to the top 3 watched sporting fixtures on TV mate. maybe even have another country play the sport :O
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pHyR3 wrote:
Yea, just ignore the fact that the number of games doubled.

I'll do the same to AFL; in 1962 crowds averaged 28173, in 2012 they were 32748. the pathetic shit show that it is. :cheers:

AFL will always pull bigger crowds in australia, it's a spectator sport. Hope one day you can break in to the top 3 watched sporting fixtures on TV mate. maybe even have another country play the sport :O
well strike me it is, but i will ad the AFL has expanded, playing games in WA & SA much smaller states & QLD NSW traditional RL heart land, as wel as 2 complete new teams. which long term grow the game but will pull the over all crowd figures down, but nothing to be concerned about
& the NRL, its biggest drawing team buy far are the broncos, & then well the over all back to even more pathetic figures :)))

once again origin gets a mention, if there was all of the 3 or 4 million that apparently watched origin, where does every one go for the resat of the year, the interest dwindles of very quickly when it comes back to the NRL comp, :-k
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Phelpsy wrote:
The Australian domestic code war is an issue constantly thrown around by the Australian sports media. With each new club the AFL opens in traditional NRL territories, the more fans, and children have the option to switch allegiances.

The AFL wins in memberships, crowd attendances, and national reach. The NRL wins in the international game, and by having State of Origin.

The recent television rights deals showed there is not much to split between the two in terms of what broadcasters are willing to pay. But this year there was something missing in the NRL.

Crowds were down, ratings were down, and there is no longer that feeling of hope that came with the arrival of the independent commission.

All the while the AFL continued to march on and thrive.

Maybe the consolidation of being the number two code in the country is what the NRL should be concentrating on.

Strengthening the product should be the NRL commission’s number one objective.

The appointment of Graeme Samuel, former honcho at the AFL and responsible for some of the expansion and mergers of the AFL in the 1990s is a step in the right direction.

As much as we love to think that loyalty exists in sport, there is increasingly little evidence to support it.

Players talk about a new ‘challenge’ or new beginning but at the end of the day, their paycheck has a large amount of pull in deciding where they work each year.

There is one thing that puts bums on seats and eyes on screens, and that is seeing a superstar do what he does best. A Greg Inglis, Sonny Bill Williams, or Billy Slater is a player that every team craves.

It was only a handful of years ago that people chastised the great Money Bill for being a trader and there were calls for him to never return to the game.

But look what he has done for the Roosters. They have had one of their biggest years ever, on and off the field and most importantly, they have won a premiership.

The introduction of a marquee player allowance is a no brainer.

Every club should have the opportunity to break the bank for one superstar player.

The one who can turn their club around on and off the field. Israel Folau, Karmichael Hunt, Sonny Bill. These were all league players and big names that got people and money into their team.

In the future, these types of players should never be allowed to leave.

A club should have one player completely exempt from the cap, with securities in place to ensure this allowance is not manipulated.

The NRL does recognise this and there will be some changes in the next few years – the gradual increase of the salary cap and the introduction of a partial marquee player allowance will help.

If the NRL wants to grow it needs to act now.

Sydney has too many teams. At least one club either has to leave or relocate and based on crowds I would think Penrith would be up there as a candidate, as well as the Sharks.

The NRL could have to look at how the AFL did this in 1990s as an example.

Two new clubs need to enter the competition to strengthen and widen its scope.

I believe New Zealand would be the most strategic, as it would increase its presence in New Zealand and potentially strengthen the international competition.

The next most logical would be Perth and a fourth and final team in Queensland.

The NRL suffers from a lack of foresight.

The AFL is the number one code in this country and largely because it has been run properly.

Everything about the AFL screams professionalism and the NRL has always seemed like its poorer cousin.

The commission needs to put words into action.

We as fans and followers of the game continuously hear talk, talk of expansion, talk of our ‘war chest’, talk of a record breaking television deal, but we don’t actually see any change.

2013 has been a forgettable year as far as statistics and numbers go.

The jewel in the crown, State of Origin, continues to break records but brings about a huge problem in scheduling and the quality of competition. I have not heard one suggestion that I like.

Origin needs to stay on Wednesdays, it adds to its 'event’ feel but at the same time clubs and players needs longer gaps to ensure club fairness.

Having weekends before State of Origin scheduled as international fixtures is one idea that makes sense. It would help the international game.

Teams like New Zealand, England, France, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Tonga, could all have friendlies played and it could bring some coverage and experience to non-NRL players.

The NRL is years behind the AFL in crowds, memberships, and administration. The AFL will always be strengthened by the fact that Aussie Rules is the one truly unique Australian sport.

It is the one tourists ask about and the one that can be recognised globally on television as our game.

Super Rugby suffers from having multiple time zones and domestic cricket is overshadowed by its international game.

Football may be the biggest threat to number two. The A-League is entering a period of growth and only time will tell how big it can get.

Maybe the NRL will never be the number one code in this country. But there are two days on the Australian sporting calendar that every Australian sports fan has an interest in – the AFL and NRL grand finals, and if it can stay that way then there is nothing to worry about.

Article link: The NRL’s battle for the Australian sports landscape: can they win it?. Written by Dane Lillingstone, on The Roar - Your Sports Opinion
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wow
the first paragraph was shit

the last was tripe

& pretty much everything written in between these .....was cat vomit

the VFL keep marching on :shock:
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it has lost 1 million fans at the gate since 2010
it has more then half of its comp on financial life support with the 2 newest teams as woeful on field as expansion sides have ever been in any sport

it is at its lowest ebb for interest in NSW & QLD since the mid 1990's despite the Swines being allowed to win a manipulated & contrived comp in 2012 & hundreds of millions spent on the latest expansion sides in these states
VFL is STILL borderline irrelevant in these states

if it weren't for its fans being brain washed cockheads in Victardia ... this sport would be on its last legs because it is the only place on gods green earth where this sport made even an ounce of progress :wink:

the NRL had a tiny drop in attendances & TV ratings for a year
& its missing something is it ? :-k


well the only thing I saw missing this year was a fumble bumbleball game in the top 3 sporting events of the year :?>
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maybe this dropkick should take off his tight shorts & singlet & see the real picture instead of being a little Vicky kicky cheerleader :cool:

Top 3 in Sydney - not one of the RL games made top 10 Australia wide! (If were talking crowds alone which I assume is the case) Because they were ALL AF! When Perth Stadium is completed with 64k will RL or AF be able to fill it! You accuse AF getting a chubby every time there is negative comments made about RL yet you do this time and time again when you think RL has made some small gain OR AF has taken a whack. You are such a hypocrite and can't see that!
it has lost 1 million fans at the gate since 2010
it has more then half of its comp on financial life support with the 2 newest teams as woeful on field as expansion sides have ever been in any sport
In last 10 years AF has gained 4 mil at the gate it's revenue has doubled (as has its clubs) it's memberships have doubled. You keep banging on about debt - but what you don't say what the cause of the debt is!

Essendon are in debt due to completing their new training venue at Essendon fields and not because their football op run at a loss.
Geelong just built a new stadium at Kardinia park
St.Kilda again new training facilities at Seaford


While it is acknowledged that, Port, Brisbane and Melb are the result of mismanagement and poor stadia deals etc, GWS AND GC both made profits.
Collingwood
West Coast
Sydney Swans
Hawthorn
Etc etc all made profits - not that it is really important as we didn't sell our code to packer and are still a not for profit sport!
Participation increased at ground level without amalgamating with another sport!

When AF knock your sport it's usually about your arrogance in believing that ONLY Sydney is important in considering ANY point of view!

So now you'll come back with a waaaaaaa waaaaaaa comment or something about being being skinny shirt wearers - but these facts remain
AFL - outdated NRL
AFL twice the fans attended
AFL more than twice membership of NRL
AFL GF 100k capacity NRL GF 81k, 3 k less than capacity (and by your earlier posts therefore dropping in popularity and not in top 3 games of their code!)
AFL more revenue than NRL
AF played throughout Australia and in particular in NSW Riverina, Canberra, Goulburn Gosford, Newcastle Broken Hill, Sydney etc etc etc. By comparison RL has just 12 clubs in Victoria (by looking at the club website) even though both games are relatively close in time to being invented and played in Australia.

Don't care that this sport is ONLY played professionally in Australia I love the game and thats what you can't understand!
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maybe even have another country play the sport :O
They do, Mr Lazy. What is that information on the International board here, chopped liver?
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pHyR3 wrote:
maybe even have another country play the sport :O
They do, Mr Lazy. What is that information on the International board here, chopped liver?
been there done that, it's really sad. honestly feel sorry for you if you think that counts as another country playing your sport :lol: :lol:

AFL will always be a shit sport, played in a couple of backward states and there's nothing the AFL, VFL, fumblers association can do about that. Shit product, your highlights are an absolute piece of garbage honest to god. Could you give maybe the top 2 or 3 moments of the 2013 season to me? wouldnt mind a laugh.
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adamj1300 wrote:
pHyR3 wrote:
Yea, just ignore the fact that the number of games doubled.

I'll do the same to AFL; in 1962 crowds averaged 28173, in 2012 they were 32748. the pathetic shit show that it is. :cheers:

AFL will always pull bigger crowds in australia, it's a spectator sport. Hope one day you can break in to the top 3 watched sporting fixtures on TV mate. maybe even have another country play the sport :O
well strike me it is, but i will ad the AFL has expanded, playing games in WA & SA much smaller states & QLD NSW traditional RL heart land, as wel as 2 complete new teams. which long term grow the game but will pull the over all crowd figures down, but nothing to be concerned about
& the NRL, its biggest drawing team buy far are the broncos, & then well the over all back to even more pathetic figures :)))

once again origin gets a mention, if there was all of the 3 or 4 million that apparently watched origin, where does every one go for the resat of the year, the interest dwindles of very quickly when it comes back to the NRL comp, :-k
Yup, the AFL has expanded. So wouldn't you expect equal or more people attending over the season with TWENTY MORE GAMES? For example, collingwood crowds have fallen from 63k to 55k LOL, looking good.
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pHyR3 wrote:
NRLCrap1 wrote:
pHyR3 wrote:
maybe even have another country play the sport :O
They do, Mr Lazy. What is that information on the International board here, chopped liver?
been there done that, it's really sad. honestly feel sorry for you if you think that counts as another country playing your sport :lol: :lol:
Oh boy another deluded one. You and Dave would make a great pair.
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honestly feel sorry for you if you think that counts as another country playing your sport .
You mean Australia's sport. Well there are an increasing number of countries playing OUR sport at an increasing standard. Some countries play the English game of rl and even more play RU.
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[AFL will always be a shit sport, played in a couple of backward states .
AFL is the most popular sport per head of population in the world and it's Australian.
AFL is played all over Australia and in an increasing number of countries.
If you cannot recognise those two simple facts you are absolute moron.
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there's nothing the AFL, VFL, fumblers association can do about that.
Well, they have done, are doing and will continue to perform.

Not so confident about YOUR imported mutated English code though.
What is mother England doing about it's bastard child?
Nice try Cos.
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pHyR3 wrote:
adamj1300 wrote:
pHyR3 wrote:
Yea, just ignore the fact that the number of games doubled.

I'll do the same to AFL; in 1962 crowds averaged 28173, in 2012 they were 32748. the pathetic shit show that it is. :cheers:

AFL will always pull bigger crowds in australia, it's a spectator sport. Hope one day you can break in to the top 3 watched sporting fixtures on TV mate. maybe even have another country play the sport :O
well strike me it is, but i will ad the AFL has expanded, playing games in WA & SA much smaller states & QLD NSW traditional RL heart land, as wel as 2 complete new teams. which long term grow the game but will pull the over all crowd figures down, but nothing to be concerned about
& the NRL, its biggest drawing team buy far are the broncos, & then well the over all back to even more pathetic figures :)))

once again origin gets a mention, if there was all of the 3 or 4 million that apparently watched origin, where does every one go for the resat of the year, the interest dwindles of very quickly when it comes back to the NRL comp, :-k
Yup, the AFL has expanded. So wouldn't you expect equal or more people attending over the season with TWENTY MORE GAMES? For example, collingwood crowds have fallen from 63k to 55k LOL, looking good.

And is there ANY club in the NRL with the luxury of having Collingwood problem? 80k members no debt and another mil + profit this year - yeah Collingwood are really worried
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Wow, an increasing number of people playing AFL??? Good job guizzz, maybe one day you will have another country that will be allowed to even play Australia in a few decades. LOL.

You obviously won't admit that the NRL is also growing in NZ, England and America. Hell we got 40k to a game (not NRL) in France, who have addded a team in the Super League recently. And 25k to RUSSIA. Let's see the AFL do that. For the record, your crowds in America haven't broken 5k to my knowledge. Whereas the NRL drew 15k multiple times in the states. Also, crowds in england have doubled in the last 10 years in the Super League and will surge again next year after the Rugby League World Cup finishes up in England.

Speaking of crowds, why are you AFL players so obsessed with them? Oh right, cause it's all your shithouse sport actually has. I'm sure once halftime hits everyone just gets in a massive circlejerk to wank off to how many people rocked up. I mean, good job on your interstate GF outrating an all sydney NRL one. Honestly, i commend your management. Too bad the sport is worse than soccer, and that's saying something.
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NRLCrap1 wrote:
Ignorance thy name is Dave.

Even if the AFL numbers are a bit down they are still streets ahead of the NRL!

Hell, look at the home and away season averages for the last five years;

Code: Select all

     AFL   NRL
2013 32163 15940
2012 31509 16423
2011 34893 16273
2010 36908 16406
2009 36193 16069
The smart people of the world will see those figures and know straight away who's in trouble. And it's not the AFL.
hmmmm
so 36908
to
31509

is goin busters eh :-k

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220,000 less spectators in 2013 then in 2010
& this is with an extra 22 games played

now

lets take those 22 games away & their 32K a match & compare this year & 2013 shall we ( ie 176 games per year each ) :cool:

2010
6,495,808

2013
5,660,688

a fall of 835,120.......... in just 3 years :shock:

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VFL is fucked ............ :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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cos789 wrote:
pHyR3 wrote:
honestly feel sorry for you if you think that counts as another country playing your sport .
You mean Australia's sport. Well there are an increasing number of countries playing OUR sport at an increasing standard. Some countries play the English game of rl and even more play RU.
pHyR3 wrote:
[AFL will always be a shit sport, played in a couple of backward states .
AFL is the most popular sport per head of population in the world and it's Australian.
AFL is played all over Australia and in an increasing number of countries.
If you cannot recognise those two simple facts you are absolute moron.
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there's nothing the AFL, VFL, fumblers association can do about that.
Well, they have done, are doing and will continue to perform.

Not so confident about YOUR imported mutated English code though.
What is mother England doing about it's bastard child?

VFL is a bumbling abortion that more Australians are embarrassed its associated with their nation ... then actually follow it in said nation :wink:
a bitter pill
bite down hard fumbler :cool:
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cos789 wrote:
pHyR3 wrote:
honestly feel sorry for you if you think that counts as another country playing your sport .
You mean Australia's sport.
no he means yours

its not his .. or mine
or the sport of more then half of this nation

it is a Victorian embarrassment invented by anglo irish drunks as a joke I think :-k


no one cares for it anywhere on gods green earth except a few backwater backward states on the bottom of one half of one nation :cool:
a bitter pill
so chew well before swallowing :wink:
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Raiderdave wrote:
VFL is a...
Is a shade of it's former self. Yes I agree dave. Why do you keep posting this?
It's not even the olf VFA but more of AFL reserves competition.
But the AFL continues to lead Australia and our game into the world.
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invented by anglo irish drunks
Simply not true dave.
It was invented by two New South Welshmen free settlers.
Nice try Cos.
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