Talking Footy

Swans4ever wrote:

Been almost a month - RD obviously has no proof that AFL clubs are in debt to 115mil another fairy tale lie!

didn't know I was asked
its amazing how these fumbling fuckheads miss all these articles with the true financial state of this dying declining sport is in




http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/a ... 6693838140


UP to 10 AFL clubs - the most on record in the same season - have forecast a financial loss this year.

While the overall profitability of the 18 clubs has been estimated at amounting to a combined $5 million, the figure will be inflated by powerhouse clubs - Collingwood, West Coast and Hawthorn.

Club chief executives were informed of their overall financial state of play by the AFL at a two-day conference in Victoria that ended yesterday.

The only clubs who have budgeted for a profit this year are the Magpies, Eagles, Hawks, Geelong, North Melbourne, Fremantle, Richmond and Essendon.

The Bombers' end financial result will depend on their ongoing legal costs arising from their defence of the ASADA/AFL investigations, and potential AFL Commission recommendations.

Sydney's result is also believed to hang in the balance between a loss and a small profit, depending on how far it goes into the finals.

The most disturbing data received was the record overall debt now carried by the clubs.

The league revealed that combined club debt had jumped from about $50m last year to $95m.

Gaming debts soared to $55m, but much of this is attributed to the additional costs incurred in establishing venues and a change in August last year to the gaming formula where clubs had to purchase 10-year licences for each poker machine.

AFL clubs that operate gaming venues said they were confident of eliminating the debt over time.



Two years ago, clubs carried bank debts of $46m.

Several financially struggling clubs appear certain to have their AFL assistance funding increased for next year as an interim measure before the league settles on a revised equalisation formula.

Clubs were informed that total player payments, including additional services agreements, would increase next by more than $600,000 a club.

Salary caps will rise from $9.14m a club to $9.63m, while additional services agreements will increase by $111,000 to $963,000.

Next season's pre-season appears certain to be condensed to a two- or three-week sanctioned practice match series, to allow the AFL premiership season to start a week earlier and extend to 24 rounds, with two byes per club.


points to note
the 95 Million is from the end of 2012 ....

the 10 clubs this year .... 11 when you include Essenmonga who will post a loss .. will push that total to approx 115 Million for 2013
with Clubs like the Wions & Poort Poopmepants to post mega losses
of probably at 6 or 7 Million between them combined .... for 2013

& the costs are going up with a futher 600K added to salary caps for 2014
wow

it is a disaster this VFL
its clubs cannot reign in their spending .... just can't do it
& many are going to the wall .....& they will bankrupt the VFL the way its going
wow
no wonder the NRL posted a profit more then 3 times bigger then the VFL 's in 2013..in just its first year of its new media rights deal :_<> :_<> :_<>


anything else I can help you with fumblers ?

hmmmmmm

swines
wonder if you can help me

I noted Sydney is not on that list of clubs projected to post a profit in 2013

>

they are the defending premiers .... they
increased membership from 27,000 in 2012 to 37,000 in 2013
increased attendances from 24,000 in 2012 to 28,000 in 2013

&
they'll lose money in 2013


jesus

imagine how bad it would be if they were not the premiers

like they'll be in 2014

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fumbles n bumbles
dead in Sydney

Assumptions based on old figures.

Typical Dave.

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Assumptions based on old figures.

Typical Dave.

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old figures .... yeah 2012 is ancient isn't it >

95 Million in the shitter in 2012
&

11 clubs to post losses in 2013 ..... including some of the worst run sporting organisations in the country like the paddle pop Wions &
Poort Pennyless


jesus

I think 115 Million is a tad generous

That's my point Dave. There are NO 2013 figures yet. This isn't 2012 so stop relying on 2012 figures as though they are now. Check your calendar again, Super Spastico!

NRLCrap1 wrote:

That's my point Dave. There are NO 2013 figures yet. This isn't 2012 so stop relying on 2012 figures as though they are now. Check your calendar again, Super Spastico!

ahhhh
all 18 clubs reported to the VFL in August with their financial results for this season you half witted ********* shit for brains :_<> :_<>

i'll type real slow for you ... K f wit ?

10 of them told the VFL they will not post profits in 2013 .. the 11th club Essenmonga said they would .. but the VFL fined them
what was it ... a Million bucks ?
so they won't now either

now
some of those losses will be staggering .... & will boost the 95 Million in debt in 2012... to 115 Million ( that figure is conservative ) for 2013

is that a clearer picture for you cockhead ?

Assuming again? Where's the link that says any AFL club reported to the VFL? Why would they? They need to report to the AFL. Come on, where are the reports and their links?

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Assuming again? Where's the link that says any AFL club reported to the VFL? Why would they? They need to report to the AFL. Come on, where are the reports and their links?

OMG
try reading you fuckwit .......
it clearly states this .................

seriously ... for once
think before you post :_<> :_<>

you are dumber then a boiled egg

It states 2012, not 2013. Show us the links for 2013, not 2012.

NRLCrap1 wrote:

It states 2012, not 2013. Show us the links for 2013, not 2012.

wow

I mean ... you have no idea do you
you are a delusional wanker

you can post a story that clearly states that
in 2012 the combined debt was 95 Million
&
10 clubs have indicated they will not post profits in 2013 reporting as much in August this year

& you still sit there with yr head up yr arse :_<> :_<>


I have proven I am correct

you have proven you are a monumental f wit :_<> :_<>

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Show us the links!

the article is the link you fucking ****** :_<> :_<> :_<>

heres a tip

TRY FUCKING READING THE ARTICLE

sound the words out loud with yr mummy if you need to ... theres a lad :_<> :_<>

The figures are from 2012 cause the 2013 ones aren't out yet. ANd when they DO come out you can bet that figure will climb past 100million, jeez and the fumblers make fun of the tigers and eels :_<> :_<>

Raiderdave wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Show us the links!

the article is the link you fucking ****** :_<> :_<> :_<>

heres a tip

TRY FUCKING READING THE ARTICLE

sound the words out loud with yr mummy if you need to ... theres a lad :_<> :_<>

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2eYZXbUC5
yes Raiderdave read the article.

even the smallest club has a bigger club turn over than the NRL's biggest club the Broncos, & twice the size of the biggest NSW's clubs,
yes debts will be bigger in the AFL but there is more money involved in the AFL twice the amount.

unless you read the club financials we have no idea where the debt comes from
for example Essendon, have just spent 35 million on a high performance center out in tullamarine, as well as a 2million dollar fine from the AFL, but its club revenue is of 65 million dollars in 2012.

compare that to the NRL biggest broncos 32 million, who train on a shitty council field, behind their mini casio pokie filled leagues club

pHyR3 wrote:

The figures are from 2012 cause the 2013 ones aren't out yet.

Thank you someone from Dave's side of the field!! That's what I was talking about!