AFL CEO Makes Pledges

[Beaussie]

Your second point suggests the fans have a choice whether to follow their new club. IMO this isnt a choice made by them at all, their club either turns out to be a shitpile merged heap of crap or its relocated to a diff state where they can barely watch them live ie at the home ground.

Which ain't better than the alternative of folding alltogether hey?

Again IMO the majority of fans miss out and are pissed. The thing these big wigs dont understand is the game wouldnt have any money without supporters. I'd like to see a poll on how many original fans of sth melb swans were and are happy with the merge? I reckon the majority arent but continue to follow because again their choice was taken away from them.

As I said earlier, if more of these fans turned up to games, bought memberships etc this whole debate wouldn't need to happen. It is their choice as to how they will support their club. No use crying when the writing has been on the walls for years. How many times do the Western Bulldogs and Kangaroos have to tell their fans that their support is needed if the club is to survive.

These money hungry tools are not trying to take care of their fans in these instances which disgusts me, and beaussie i know if the game was a sydney game with the majority of teams based in sydney and your swans were relocated and merged to melb you'd be devastated, dont say you wouldnt be!

If there are too many teams well so be it. I'd still follow my team even if they relocated.

Your third point suggests tradition is ridiculous and financial success is key, if this is the case i suggest you begin following the stock market....you'd enjoy it just as much.

I never said tradition was ridiculous, but clearly there has to be a balance between tradition and a club standing on its own feet financially. If the finances aren't there, well tough luck, move or merge and create those finances necessary to run a club in the big league. Failing that, there's always the VFL.

[King-Eliagh]

Your first and second points are legitimate but your third and fourth seem to be going against your God Demetrious 'vision' somewhat

If their are too many teams so be it eh? What happened to keeping it at 16 teams?

And yes i know you'd still follow ur team if they relocated but you didnt answer my question. Would you be devastated? I'll answer it for you....YES

And lastly "If the finances arent there? Tough luck"? Doesnt sound like Demetrious vision at all now does it beaussie?

[Beaussie]

Your first and second points are legitimate but your third and fourth seem to be going against your God Demetrious 'vision' somewhat

If their are too many teams so be it eh? What happened to keeping it at 16 teams?

Relocating a team still maintains 16 teams. Merging two teams just means a new team can be created in a new market like Western Sydney without the need for a relocated Melbourne team. 16 teams remains. Is that so hard for you to comprehend?

And lastly "If the finances arent there? Tough luck"? Doesnt sound like Demetrious vision at all now does it beaussie?

Get with the times, it's already happened in the AFL and NRL/ARL. Think about it. South Melbourne, Fitzroy, Newtown, North Sydney, Western Suburbs, Balmain, Illawarra, St George, Adealide, Western Reds. You get my point now I hope.

[King-Eliagh]

I got your points first time round beaussie. My point is that your points are in opposition to Demetrious.

He said we will keep 16 teams forever you said if there are too many teams so be it???

If you're saying get with the times and teams have been abolished everywhere, which is true, you are also going against one of demetrious commandments "We shall not let financial stresses disadvantag 'any' club.

Get my drift? So are you on Demetrious side or not?

[King-Eliagh]

Ahh yes, an old classic. So what do people think about dumbchook demetrious 9 commandments seven years down the track? TLPG? Beaussie? Xmouse?

I have the same opinion as seven years ago, four of those commandments are absolute self indulgent kerfuffle and dumbchook demetriou oughta be embarassed, as should 'all young Australian men (and women for that matter, way to go leave out half the population dumbchook demetriou) who have made AFL their sport of choice'.

I must say I changed a little from these days. This thread wasnt long before i took up playing marngrook for the westies club in alice springs and I must admit, I also coached it that year also. Hope you're not kealous TLPG ... but twas fun and important to bait the man who cried wolf aka beaussie!

[eelofwest]

Obviously no other sporting code compares with the AFL when it comes to market share and dominance. Just look at what the TV rights are worth and compare that with for instance rugby league or union.

I must say I find it refreshing to read and assume that the AFL will be playing hard ball now with other codes. Telstra Dome will soon be owned by the AFL, good luck rugby league and union in getting a game there once the AFL takes control. :<>

My point is this guy seems to be reliving his years at 'nam. Problem is there is no real footy code war going on beaussie its all a figment of yours, others who read the telegraph, and Demetriou's imaginations. The thing that both of you turkeys dont understand is that Australians love lots of sports, it comes down to personal choice and perception as to which is the best. I'll remind you of my point here. No other sporting code has bothered to make a statement about being intimidated by other codes simply because its just a plain rubbish statement to make.

Melbourne clubs merging or relocating doesn't mean a 16-club competition cannot be maintained. Think about it.

You are obviously not very good at analysing and understanding although I do understand your extreme bias can block your vision from time to time/always. . The focus of my rebuttle in this instance was on no clubs being disadvantaged by financial stress. Read again Junior

That is a lie. You've played the game since moving to NT. You even teach it now. Stop lying will ya.

I've never played the game as part of a club which is I think what dumbchook demetriou is referring to when he claims AFL will be the sport of choice for 'all' young Aussie men

Also no I dont teach it and wont be all this year. Its an option for friday sport and wont be part of my P.E program for terms 2, 3, annnnnd 4! (term 1 was swimming and bball) I'll be teaching league though Just doin my bit ya know And guess what I'm not joking

Now lets summarise. Beaussie you have struggled to understand much of this thread so far. I hope this post can help you? You have also sidestepped the real issues (as per usual), which i have highlighted in this post for your convenience :D

I hope i have been of some assistance. And remember 'nam finished years ago mate.

By the way i thought the televised NRL match today was just fantastic a real thriller which surprised me as i thought the dogs would kill the tigers. Ohwell I guess league just keeps getting better and living on.

Not only is MR Dem delusional about most of his points as you pointed out King, but he and the AFL seem to all have the same disorder. I dont know but it seems AFL poeple in general are self praising/self indulgent one eyed tossers.

[King-Eliagh]

Yes I agree Eels, its quite a disgusting character trait amongst several of our AFL supporting members, excluding piesfan, who is on the whole very reasonable i must say.

I still cant believe these 9 commandments were utttered!

[Xman]

It was essentially a mission statement which was designed to reassure AFL fans about the future direction of the game.

Hardly news worthy, especially 7 years later!

One thing I will say though, he has had an exceptional 7 years! =D> =D> =D>

[King-Eliagh]

"reassure AFL fans about the future direction of the game" The poor darlings, did they need reassuring? I know the insecurity yourself, TLPG and Beaussie show in here through your refusal to point to anything the AFL does wrong suggests many AFL comp fans may be in need of such ridiculous reassurance.

And Demetriou's had a great 7 years? That's questionable when we look at his 9 commandments...

We will ensure that we are the sport of choice for all young men in Australia, for all time

I still cant believe he wrote this rubbish down! Speaks volumes about the person running the AFL

[Xman]

"reassure AFL fans about the future direction of the game" The poor darlings, did they need reassuring? I know the insecurity yourself, TLPG and Beaussie show in here through your refusal to point to anything the AFL does wrong suggests many AFL comp fans may be in need of such ridiculous reassurance.

And Demetriou's had a great 7 years? That's questionable when we look at his 9 commandments...

We will ensure that we are the sport of choice for all young men in Australia, for all time

I still cant believe he wrote this rubbish down! Speaks volumes about the person running the AFL

What's wrong with the statement? Participation rates for ARs are excellent and far more than RL! The sport is certainly played almost exclusively by males too.

[King-Eliagh]

Ah if you cant work that one out Xman, you're even more of a testicle brain than i thought

[Xman]

Ah if you cant work that one out Xman, you're even more of a testicle brain than i thought

Don't blame me if you've got an expressive disorder.

[King-Eliagh]

Blame? Who said blame you idiot.

Stay on track Xman! I know you dont get the ridiculousness of demetrious statement but that doesnt mean you go flinging into some self indulgent epic fail monologue like dumb chook demetriou

[Xman]

AD is10 times the CEO Gallop will ever be.

[King-Eliagh]

Based on his ridiculous 9 commandments, I doubt it.

No club shall ever suffer from financial hardship

Even God himself couldnt pull that one off! But Demetriou thinks he can!