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Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 5:18 pm
by Fred
Where did I say this Dave ...

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 5:26 pm
by Fred
Okay just went and checked my comment and will have to man up... The way it reads is it could be taken as me saying that there were no rl clubs in Victoria ... If you read the sentence on its own . Ill just have to suck it up and apologise to Dave . My intent when writing it was to mean he had no rl club in his area where we lived. Not even a leauge . So Dave, you were right on this one and I apologise . For the record I did know of the rl comp in Melbourne as saw the ground once so was aware of there being a comp ... Just no where near where I lived . Sorry Dave, I did write it as you had said. Again I apologise .

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 5:35 am
by Swans4ever
Raiderdave wrote:
598,000 Australians played Rugby League on a regular basis in 2012
some 1.5 Million had a " rugby league " experience last year

167,000 are registered club players from ages 6- to 1st grade
430,000 are school children or participants in gala RL carnivals held all over Australia

the affiliated States of Victoria , WA SA Tas & NT enjoyed a 27% increase in participation in 2012

the game has never been played by more people & it is growing every year.


http://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadEdito ... e_2012.pdf

No Raiderdave it don't say that at all ......598,000 played a GAME of RL in 2011, 430,000 children had a RL experience (not a gala all over Australia). The game of RL had a 27% participation increase - not Vic, SA, WA, NT or TAS. If your going to quote a source get it right you idiot! Typical handball wanker!

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 5:46 am
by Swans4ever
Raiderdave wrote:
Phelpsy wrote:
Lol 38000 school players . Dreaming. Pies go to the rl Vic website ... It's a tad amateurish but figures are there I think. There's some like 13 clubs across Victoria I think ...1 leauge . I tell you what though the Perth rl website is very professional and looks like a decent rl presence there ... No where near AFL or soccer but you can sense done growth. I Victoria as we know very little rl ... Baseball is bigger and hockey . The storm are visiting schools though and maybe that's the 38000 Dave is talking about. Which is great and they should have been doing this from
The start
an article from the age in Melb .. from 2009
http://www.thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic ... 4&p=384728

League storms into AFL's fortress

Image
Crossed codes ... Greg Brentnall with Lucas Grech (blonde), Tom Goodwin (dark hair) and Cameron Hansen (tall, dark hair).

MEET the two AFL wunderkinds who have done the unthinkable in Melbourne: dumped Aussie rules for rugby league.

Tom Goodwin, the son of former Demons star Andy, and former Victorian under-14s captain Cameron Hansen are at the vanguard of a bold counterattack by the NRL on its rival code - in the heart of enemy territory.

And The Daily Telegraph can reveal the Victorian Government is backing the foray.

Following revelations yesterday that the AFL's second Sydney team has bombed, it has emerged the Victorian Government is giving rugby league $400,000 a year to take it to the AFL in Melbourne.

"The ARL committed a series of games down here," Victorian ARL development officer Dylan Hides said. "They included State of Origin matches and the World Cup. The Victorian Government came in to bed with us to put some serious money into the development of the game."

Former Kangaroos fullback Greg Brentnall, who also played senior AFL, is rugby league's general fighting for the code in Bleak City.

A Daily Telegraph investigation can reveal:

THE ARL, Victorian Government and Melbourne Storm are spending a combined $1.4 million to develop rugby league in the southern state;

RUGBY league club registrations have doubled in the past four years to 1450;

SINCE 2006, $8 million has been ploughed into Victorian rugby league;

A NATIONAL pathway to the NRL has been established with a Melbourne SG Ball (under-18) side and a Toyota Cup (under-20) side established;

RUGBY league has 94 teams playing in weekend competitions in Victoria, and;

MORE than 34,000 players participated in rugby league through Victorian schools.

"We are making steady inroads into the market on the back of our investment and the success of the Storm," Brentnall told The Daily Telegraph at a school rugby league carnival on the outskirts of Melbourne. "Even last year our club numbers went up 24 per cent which was very good in the current climate."

Like the AFL in Sydney, rugby league has recorded stunning growth in Melbourne schools with Joey League - a similar program to AusKick.

"Our biggest growth area is the schools," Brentnall said. "We have been able to put on some serious staff with the money.

"We have eight full-time development officers and a development boss. We also have a cultural officer (ex-Storm player Matt Rua)."


key points here

34,000 Victorian School Children were playing RL ... 4 years ago
I did make a mistake when I said 38K
its actually over 45K :wink:

94 club teams playing RL 5 seasons ago
1450 registered players , a 100% increase from 2005 ... &..... & .. that number has nearly doubled again

wow
do you feel like a dick ... cos you look like one !! [-X [-X [-X
1st all the players you mentioned are all from NSW not Victoria - look them up dumbass - 2nd the state Gov gave grants to RU, Soccer, hockey etc look it up dumbass - lastly you are quoting 2009 sources - they have 13 clubs with 1st, 11 junior affiliates with under 14's and u16's clubs not 94 - perhaps you should use some up to date figures - lastly there is no school childrens comp - those numbers are school visits by storm players (and are also included in a RL experience numbers). There is NO PRESENCE in Victoria Sth Eastern suburbs or Eastern Suburbs only a small area around Werribee. And it is losing clubs! Dying out - in your mind thats about 200 mil the NRL has wasted on this game in Melb!

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:13 pm
by Raiderdave
Swans4ever wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
598,000 Australians played Rugby League on a regular basis in 2012
some 1.5 Million had a " rugby league " experience last year

167,000 are registered club players from ages 6- to 1st grade
430,000 are school children or participants in gala RL carnivals held all over Australia

the affiliated States of Victoria , WA SA Tas & NT enjoyed a 27% increase in participation in 2012

the game has never been played by more people & it is growing every year.


http://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadEdito ... e_2012.pdf

No Raiderdave it don't say that at all ......598,000 played a GAME of RL in 2011, 430,000 children had a RL experience (not a gala all over Australia). The game of RL had a 27% participation increase - not Vic, SA, WA, NT or TAS.

F me
reading is a problem for this gimp
The game of RL had a 27% participation increase - not Vic, SA, WA, NT or TAS.
straight out of the report

27% increase in the number first contact programs run by Rugby League’s affiliated states - Northern Territory, South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia.

430,000 children had a RL experience (not a gala all over Australia).
430, 638 students playing in regular school competitions and formal gala days.

schools competitions & gala days are held in every state & territory

wow
for a person with a self proclaimed superior intellect .... your reading skills are somewhat ... below par :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:18 pm
by Raiderdave
Swans4ever wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Phelpsy wrote:
Lol 38000 school players . Dreaming. Pies go to the rl Vic website ... It's a tad amateurish but figures are there I think. There's some like 13 clubs across Victoria I think ...1 leauge . I tell you what though the Perth rl website is very professional and looks like a decent rl presence there ... No where near AFL or soccer but you can sense done growth. I Victoria as we know very little rl ... Baseball is bigger and hockey . The storm are visiting schools though and maybe that's the 38000 Dave is talking about. Which is great and they should have been doing this from
The start
an article from the age in Melb .. from 2009
http://www.thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic ... 4&p=384728

League storms into AFL's fortress

Image
Crossed codes ... Greg Brentnall with Lucas Grech (blonde), Tom Goodwin (dark hair) and Cameron Hansen (tall, dark hair).

MEET the two AFL wunderkinds who have done the unthinkable in Melbourne: dumped Aussie rules for rugby league.

Tom Goodwin, the son of former Demons star Andy, and former Victorian under-14s captain Cameron Hansen are at the vanguard of a bold counterattack by the NRL on its rival code - in the heart of enemy territory.

And The Daily Telegraph can reveal the Victorian Government is backing the foray.

Following revelations yesterday that the AFL's second Sydney team has bombed, it has emerged the Victorian Government is giving rugby league $400,000 a year to take it to the AFL in Melbourne.

"The ARL committed a series of games down here," Victorian ARL development officer Dylan Hides said. "They included State of Origin matches and the World Cup. The Victorian Government came in to bed with us to put some serious money into the development of the game."

Former Kangaroos fullback Greg Brentnall, who also played senior AFL, is rugby league's general fighting for the code in Bleak City.

A Daily Telegraph investigation can reveal:

THE ARL, Victorian Government and Melbourne Storm are spending a combined $1.4 million to develop rugby league in the southern state;

RUGBY league club registrations have doubled in the past four years to 1450;

SINCE 2006, $8 million has been ploughed into Victorian rugby league;

A NATIONAL pathway to the NRL has been established with a Melbourne SG Ball (under-18) side and a Toyota Cup (under-20) side established;

RUGBY league has 94 teams playing in weekend competitions in Victoria, and;

MORE than 34,000 players participated in rugby league through Victorian schools.

"We are making steady inroads into the market on the back of our investment and the success of the Storm," Brentnall told The Daily Telegraph at a school rugby league carnival on the outskirts of Melbourne. "Even last year our club numbers went up 24 per cent which was very good in the current climate."

Like the AFL in Sydney, rugby league has recorded stunning growth in Melbourne schools with Joey League - a similar program to AusKick.

"Our biggest growth area is the schools," Brentnall said. "We have been able to put on some serious staff with the money.

"We have eight full-time development officers and a development boss. We also have a cultural officer (ex-Storm player Matt Rua)."


key points here

34,000 Victorian School Children were playing RL ... 4 years ago
I did make a mistake when I said 38K
its actually over 45K :wink:

94 club teams playing RL 5 seasons ago
1450 registered players , a 100% increase from 2005 ... &..... & .. that number has nearly doubled again

wow
do you feel like a dick ... cos you look like one !! [-X [-X [-X
1st all the players you mentioned are all from NSW not Victoria - look them up dumbass - 2nd the state Gov gave grants to RU, Soccer, hockey etc look it up dumbass - lastly you are quoting 2009 sources - they have 13 clubs with 1st, 11 junior affiliates with under 14's and u16's clubs not 94 - perhaps you should use some up to date figures - lastly there is no school childrens comp - those numbers are school visits by storm players (and are also included in a RL experience numbers). There is NO PRESENCE in Victoria Sth Eastern suburbs or Eastern Suburbs only a small area around Werribee. And it is losing clubs! Dying out - in your mind thats about 200 mil the NRL has wasted on this game in Melb!

yes
34,000 Victorian school children, but somehow come from NSW 8-[
94 teams in 09....but these are filled by people making the 3.5 hr commute each weekend from the Riverina :-k

the report clearly says 94 teams for the 13 clubs
that's 7 teams per club
1450 players 5 seasons ago .....

up to date
yes ..... its now 130 odd teams & 2500 players you ********* fuckwit :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:24 pm
by piesman2011
So at the moment we have a source of 1450 regiested players from 2009. So it might be around that mark, or a bit higher or lower. Anyone got a source more recent then that? Say 2011 or 2012.

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 5:19 pm
by Fred
Here ya go



Last year we had 2774 registered players.

We do not have confirmed numbers for this year, but indications are that we have already reached last year's number.

Thanks,

Brent Silva
General Manager

T: 03 8412 4952
F: 03 8412 4999
M: 0467 556 770
bsilva@melbournestorm.com.au


Victorian Rugby League
Melbourne Storm RLFC
AAMI Park
60 Olympic Boulevard
Melbourne, VIC, 3001
PO Box 155 Richmond VIC 3121
www.vrl.org.au




Not sure what part are juniours and adult ...

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 5:27 pm
by Raiderdave
Phelpsy wrote:
Here ya go



Last year we had 2774 registered players.

We do not have confirmed numbers for this year, but indications are that we have already reached last year's number.

Thanks,

Brent Silva
General Manager

T: 03 8412 4952
F: 03 8412 4999
M: 0467 556 770
bsilva@melbournestorm.com.au


Victorian Rugby League
Melbourne Storm RLFC
AAMI Park
60 Olympic Boulevard
Melbourne, VIC, 3001
PO Box 155 Richmond VIC 3121
http://www.vrl.org.au




Not sure what part are juniours and adult ...

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seems the most correct & accurate poster in this site .... is right again !!
I expect a humble apology from anyone suggesting I was not right


I expect it
I deserve it
I probably won't get it .... such is life amongst fumblers [-X [-X [-X [-( [-( [-(

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:46 pm
by Fred
That's the whole of Victoria Dave . Just saying. Oh and thanks Phelpsy for getting that lol .... No worries :)

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:19 pm
by Swans4ever
Well I'm man enough unlike yourself Raiderdave you were right who would have figured. Are you going to concede that AFL has a strong presence in NSW with 95000 registered players in 2012? I guess that will be a no, an insult and an accusation!

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:48 pm
by piesman2011
Excellent finally someone with an answer. That's all I wanted to know. RL in Vicis growing and that is good to see. Massive increase. I went on to the site and they had a few interesting comps going. I was going to try to could the teams to get a rough guestimate. Feel free to close the thread. Mods we got an answer for once, thanks to Phelpsy.

Dave you're full of shit for the most, however i have a general respect for your RL knowledge, and I enjoy your trolling style. I never said you were wrong, this was all about finding out the truth, because i have never seen a solid source for the Victorian RL numbers. The only thing this thread could do now is work out the break down of juniors, seniors and aus tag numbers etc.

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:45 am
by Swans4ever
Being man enough to do research - it appears there is a local team in Bayswater Vic - it has u14's, U12's, U10's, U9's, U8's and U6's. it is apparently in Coldchester Road. Anyway they play Saturday so I may even take my boy along as I want him to enjoy all sports.

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:52 pm
by Raiderdave
Swans4ever wrote:
Well I'm man enough unlike yourself Raiderdave you were right who would have figured. Are you going to concede that AFL has a strong presence in NSW with 95000 registered players in 2012? I guess that will be a no, an insult and an accusation!

95,000 registered players .....????

8-[


:lol: :lol: :lol:

there are fewer then 30,000 in NSW
some 28,500 odd

& over 20,000 of them were there before the Swines came to Sydney in 1982
mainly in the Riverina

when will you lot get something right :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: RL registered players in Victoria. The truth!

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:10 pm
by Swans4ever
Raiderdave wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
Well I'm man enough unlike yourself Raiderdave you were right who would have figured. Are you going to concede that AFL has a strong presence in NSW with 95000 registered players in 2012? I guess that will be a no, an insult and an accusation!

95,000 registered players .....????

8-[


:lol: :lol: :lol:

there are fewer then 30,000 in NSW
some 28,500 odd

& over 20,000 of them were there before the Swines came to Sydney in 1982
mainly in the Riverina

when will you lot get something right :lol: :lol: :lol:
In 2007, there were 7,225 senior players in NSW/ACT and in 2006 a total of around 95,100 participants.[9] Although this makes Aussie Rules Footy one of the fastest growing sports in the state, the overall participation per capita is only about 1%, the lowest in Australia. [2]. The Australian Bureau of Statistics "Children's Participation in Cultural and Leisure Activities, Australia, Apr 2009" estimated 18,000 AFL participants in NSW and 1,400 AFL participants in the ACT.[10](table
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australi ... outh_Wales
Unless you have a better source