Talking Footy

King-Eliagh wrote:

99.9% of high level criminals who are guilty and under investigation know they are being investigated. Comon pies.

King-Eliagh wrote:

Oh jeez. Ok I was exaggerating but seriously, Essendon knew they were guilty and more than likely knew an investigation was taking place and the shit was gunna hit the fan. They're a bunch of crooks and they knew/know it.

Clear as day pies. Clear as day.

King-Eliagh wrote:

piesman2011 wrote:

Unfortunately the Dank's of the world have been in the NRL system a lot longer then in the AFL system. The are doing their best to hide and may have got into the system a lot deeper and even gotten to the players. Dank was only at Essendon for less then a year. Essendon had poor practices in place and when they realised the issue they brought it into the public light, lucky for them Dank had only been around a short time and it also looks like the players had no idea what was happening. I am just an outsider, however the way they are dealing with the issue looks to me like the NRL clubs have a much bigger problem. They are doing their best to give away as little information as possible, the way a criminal would deal with an issue and it makes all of the NRL look bad. I thought the way the president of the Sharks dealed with the problem was sloppy but it was the right way of dealing with the issue. He held the doctor and the coach to account for their mistakes and delt with it quickly. Essendon should probabaly take a leaf out of his book in my opinion.

No. Essendon welcomed Dank aboard with open arms. They listened hungrily to his dodgy plans. They said that this fits perfectly with our "win at all costs" attitude. Then they told their medical doctors to piss off. They created secret on and off site doping locations. And said to Dankey "no matter what the costs, whether its players' health, the integrity of this club, or the integrity of the code and australian sport...make us win"



Essendon and the AFL can play the guilty cunning honest schoolyard boy who knows its best to admit he's stuffed up so as to cop a lenient penalty for owning up to his guilt when he knows he's not gunna get away with it alllllllll they like. They might lull asada and dumb tools like pies into their lullaby but they dont fool KE!

Facts are facts. We all know what was going on. Criminals, the lot of em.

eelofwest wrote:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/AFL ... 6637162612

IN the past six months, two of the AFL's biggest brands - Adelaide and Essendon - have vowed to bare their souls in public, or at least to their members.

Each has sinned. Neither has fully confessed.

The Bombers had their chance on Monday.

Ziggy Switkowski was under the impression from Essendon chairman David Evans there would be full disclosure of his internal report on how the Bombers lost their way while Stephen Dank and Dean Robinson ran a fitness program that is now the subject of AFL and Federal Government investigations.

The members and the public remain in the dark on some key issues of the Tippett saga

In fairness to Evans, the Switkowski report is under threat - if made public in full - of defamation hearings, particularly from Robinson, who was the high-performance manager at Windy Hill last season.

In further fairness to Essendon, the corruption of its procedures was so severe last year that even today the Bombers cannot tell their players what substances they took in the search for a competitive edge.

Adelaide has less to hold back full disclosure - as promised - on the Kurt Tippett affair.

The members and the public - who were assured by Crows chairman Rob Chapman of being told "the whole story" - remain in the dark on some key issues.

Just what happened in September 2009 when Tippett signed a contract with secret attachments is either to stay private or become the focus of a book by any of the key players.

Regardless, there are two fascinating points in each scandal that need to be pushed.

At Essendon, there is the problem of the letter that club doctor Bruce Reid wrote on January 15, 2012, expressing concern at the Dank-Robinson program. This letter never reached the board - and remains lost.

"Bruce did write a letter," Evans says, "and ... we're confused as to where that letter went."

But AFL clubs are small pods. Is it harsh or too simplistic to ask why Reid - as he constantly bumped into Evans in the changerooms, team hotels and flights - never asked why he had no response to his letter?

Had the lines of communication at Windy Hill broken down that much?

At Adelaide, there is the question of just how much the Crows board knew of the Tippett deal - or how much they asked of it.

Considering so many questions of secret clauses were in the media, a concerned club director should have asked for clarity at board meetings.

Chapman says the board minutes confirm his directors did ask and they were satisfied with the answer. The response of "manageable risk" may indicate the board was too easily satisfied with the answer - and the AFL penalties further enhance that impression.

An adjunct professor from the University of Adelaide, Mark Coleman, this month has published a business paper questioning the Adelaide FC's governance.

"I questioned," he writes, "a number of colleagues, all well experienced in governance roles ... "

The conclusions are quite damning of the Crows board, and certain to draw a response from Chapman, who is going to great lengths to correct the governance problems at West Lakes.

But no member at Adelaide or Essendon yet has the full story as they were promised.







NOW WHO HAS ITS HEAD IN THE SAND?????????????????????





Another nice thread from our coward admin beassie..........