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Teams across both codes are well fkd. But looking at the body-shape and strength emphasis of nRL players, I think hormone use is more likely in rugby league players than AFL. It's all just speculation at this point, time will tell how deep the rabbit hole goes here.
Strength is required in AFL as well so don't think you're getting away with that furphy!! It's all equal and like El said it's all speculation! Drac, you are right that there are teams in both codes in the $hit, but it also goes for A-League, ARU etc.
No its not speculation! [-X

The ACC have specifically said the NRL has players and clubs involved! [-X
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The ACC have specifically said that ALL codes are involved!! Beyond that it is still speculation!
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Pandora's box may have just been opened by the Essendon football club. Drug cheating and match fixing may make up some of the biggest headlines for the next few months at least.
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Hmmmmmmm, hearsay......"Earlier, ARL Commission chief Dave Smith has revealed NRL players and clubs are under investigation following the Australian Crime Commission's (ACC) report into the integrity of sport."

Hmmmmmmm, hearsay......"We've worked with the crime commission in the last week or so and information has come forward for NRL specifically that affects more than one player and more than one club


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2KBcMeOLN



Seems like the accusations against the NRL are from the ACC, where as Essendon requested an investigation by ASADA after cooments by an ex player about a waiver.

the NRL, knee deep in drugs! [-X
What's the "information that has come forward" that's come forward Xman? :lol: Hearsay is all's you've got. And you so ferociously attacked others for raising exactly the same type of material in re to the Essendon debacle. Seriously, you're one massively confused buffoon arent you? :lol:
But werent you dickheads quick to jump on.Ask yourself whom would benefit more from strength inducing substances.League or AFL players.It would seem some butt hurt coming the NRL's way.The way the media has been handled is so typical. AFL on the front foot league head in the sand hoping it goes away. The NRL has been in discussions for days wouldnt it have made sense for them to come out the same time as the AFL.The usual reactionary fools.
Your hero (James Hird) and club are under the biggest strife, it is basically checkmate for Essendon, the rest are just allegations linking Mr DANK TO nrl clubs in the past.

There is no proof of any wrong doing just what ifs from the DT to sell papers.

No you cant pass the blame for this one singlet wearers this disaster is all yours. And next time do not put a pic of another sporting organizations representative (Alessandro Del Piero, ADP) on your articles for AFL drug issues AFLHQ....Poor form singlet wearers poor form........ :lol: :lol:

What a dishonorable bunch of journos we have in that backwater lake..............i mean state called Melbourne............... :lol: :lol: :lol: =D> =D> =D>
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pookus wrote:
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But werent you dickheads quick to jump on.Ask yourself whom would benefit more from strength inducing substances.League or AFL players.It would seem some butt hurt coming the NRL's way.The way the media has been handled is so typical. AFL on the front foot league head in the sand hoping it goes away. The NRL has been in discussions for days wouldnt it have made sense for them to come out the same time as the AFL.The usual reactionary fools.
Ahh :?> The only reason the AFL came out is because an ex player highlighted it. Smarten up pookus! I used to think you were a few thousand braincells ahead of the likes of stewie and Xman. Im beginning to doubt this. :|
Your a hundred percent right on why they came out no doubt.But the point I was making is why didnt the nrl get on the front foot and do the same.Smith has been in meetings all week with the ACC by his admission.A smart operator would have taken control of the media before it gets hold of them.Look at the AFL we already have oue scape goat your media will be hunting for yours.Good luck with that. :lol: :lol:
The NRL is not the story here, it is Essendon football club that has come out after a whistle blower threatened to talk. This is not the front foot merely a snake in sheep's clothing buddy........ :wink:

The NRL welcomed the investigation and have fully complied, and have also setup a NRL integrity unit to boot. The fact that the AFL did not join the Wada doping council years after the rest of the codes is proof Mr Demetruio knows that Doping exists in the AFL and only after the government decided to take away funding did they fold........all does not look good for the AFL especially.

There will be casualties from the other codes but the AFL will be the biggest looser here mark my words... =D> =D> =D> Even a self confest AFL addict Caro Wilson is attacking and eating her own...........it has already started just wait and see.
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Its all just speculation with the Essendon football club as well at the moment. They have done the right thing and opened an enquiry into some unusual situations at their club in 2012. The most likely situation in my mind is that the injections were all legal and that the whole thing will end up being a media beat up. However it could definately go the other way. There have been a few premature ejectulations from mostly NRL supporters over the last few days and they will mostly have egg on their faces in a few weeks time.
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Ahh :?> The only reason the AFL came out is because an ex player highlighted it. Smarten up pookus! I used to think you were a few thousand braincells ahead of the likes of stewie and Xman. Im beginning to doubt this. :|
Your a hundred percent right on why they came out no doubt.But the point I was making is why didnt the nrl get on the front foot and do the same.Smith has been in meetings all week with the ACC by his admission.A smart operator would have taken control of the media before it gets hold of them.Look at the AFL we already have oue scape goat your media will be hunting for yours.Good luck with that. :lol: :lol:
The NRL is not the story here, it is Essendon football club that has come out after a whistle blower threatened to talk. This is not the front foot merely a snake in sheep's clothing buddy........ :wink:

The NRL welcomed the investigation and have fully complied, and have also setup a NRL integrity unit to boot. The fact that the AFL did not join the Wada doping council years after the rest of the codes is proof Mr Demetruio knows that Doping exists in the AFL and only after the government decided to take away funding did they fold........all does not look good for the AFL especially.

There will be casualties from the other codes but the AFL will be the biggest looser here mark my words... =D> =D> =D> Even a self confest AFL addict Caro Wilson is attacking and eating her own...........it has already started just wait and see.
Garbage! :roll:
- the story is about all Australian sport now, and multiple NRL clubs and players have been involved.

- Essendon called for an ASADA investigation after an ex player questioned their practice. This player never said they used PEDs, only that they acted irregularly.

- both codes have welcomed full investigations. The AFL have already introduced many changes tonight.

- the AFL believed their policy to be far more comprehensive than WADA because it was developed by Australian industry experts and targeted out of season testing, where as WADA is only in season.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said signing WADA's code would restrict the League's ability to test players for illicit drugs outside of competition.

Mr Demetriou said under the AFL's own anti-doping code, players could be tested for illicit drugs 44 weeks of the year.

"The AFL's drug-testing regime is probably the most vigilant of any sport in the world," he said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2005-06-30/a ... de/2049072

- Caroline Wilson does nothing but criticise the AFL dumbarse! :roll:
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X, again, it's multiple clubs from ALL codes and not just the NRL!
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VIALS of urine have been found hidden in plumbing in the Gold Coast Titans dressing rooms at Skilled Park.

The vials were uncovered by police during a bomb detection training exercise.

The suspicious discovery was revealed yesterday as Australia's biggest drugs-in-sport scandal erupted.

Police said the containers were found stashed in the Titans home rooms at Skilled Park, Robina, by officers undertaking the bomb detection training ahead of next year's G20 summit in Brisbane.

The discovery is believed to have been referred to the Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority.

Titans management was immediately told but said they had not been contacted by ASADA.
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/201 ... itans.html

Here we go........................ #-o
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The NRL CEO was on the TV last night saying that multiple players from multiple teams were being investigated. The shit just hit the fan.
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The NRL CEO was on the TV last night saying that multiple players from multiple teams were being investigated. The shit just hit the fan.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-08/k ... de/4507746
owever Mr Kennett, a former Victorian premier turned beyondblue ambassador, has accused the AFL of a "kneejerk reaction".

Speaking to ABC News Breakfast this morning he said he was "not surprised" by the ACC's findings, saying the AFL's three-strikes drugs policy simply does not work.
Audio: ASADA boss defends role (AM)

"The AFL drug code is unenforceable, it's obviously abused and evaded and misused," he said.

"The only policy that will work in the interests of the clubs, the AFL and the players, is a zero tolerance policy to drugs, be they illicit or performance-enhancing."

He said any player testing positive to drug use should be banned from the game for a year and forced to undergo rehabilitation, with their salary reduced to recruit level.

"If after a year they wish to continue, that is the club and the player, with a career, then that can be done," Mr Kennett said.

"But if there is a second positive test, that player is out of the code for life.

"It's as simple as that."
Time for Mr Demtruios head to be served to the fans................ :lol: :lol: :lol:

The AFL moves closer to releasing the results of its tanking investigation

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/AFL/more-ne ... 6573266412

Or maybe just serve him up whole............ :lol: :lol:

Huge phew weeks coming up for the AFL........... :wink: :cool:
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eelofwest wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
The NRL CEO was on the TV last night saying that multiple players from multiple teams were being investigated. The shit just hit the fan.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-08/k ... de/4507746
owever Mr Kennett, a former Victorian premier turned beyondblue ambassador, has accused the AFL of a "kneejerk reaction".

Speaking to ABC News Breakfast this morning he said he was "not surprised" by the ACC's findings, saying the AFL's three-strikes drugs policy simply does not work.
Audio: ASADA boss defends role (AM)

"The AFL drug code is unenforceable, it's obviously abused and evaded and misused," he said.

"The only policy that will work in the interests of the clubs, the AFL and the players, is a zero tolerance policy to drugs, be they illicit or performance-enhancing."

He said any player testing positive to drug use should be banned from the game for a year and forced to undergo rehabilitation, with their salary reduced to recruit level.

"If after a year they wish to continue, that is the club and the player, with a career, then that can be done," Mr Kennett said.

"But if there is a second positive test, that player is out of the code for life.

"It's as simple as that."
Time for Mr Demtruios head to be served to the fans................ :lol: :lol: :lol:

The AFL moves closer to releasing the results of its tanking investigation

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/AFL/more-ne ... 6573266412

Or maybe just serve him up whole............ :lol: :lol:

Huge phew weeks coming up for the AFL........... :wink: :cool:
Kennet has long been a critic of the AFL's illicit drug policy. We know what he thinks. His opinion is not based on science or medical advise, just his opinion.

Have a listen to Gillan McLachlan on SEN this morning. He made perfect sense and clearly demonstrated why the AFL's illicit drugs policy is a world leader =D>
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VIALS of urine have been found hidden in plumbing in the Gold Coast Titans dressing rooms at Skilled Park.

The vials were uncovered by police during a bomb detection training exercise.

The suspicious discovery was revealed yesterday as Australia's biggest drugs-in-sport scandal erupted.

Police said the containers were found stashed in the Titans home rooms at Skilled Park, Robina, by officers undertaking the bomb detection training ahead of next year's G20 summit in Brisbane.

The discovery is believed to have been referred to the Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority.

Titans management was immediately told but said they had not been contacted by ASADA.
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/201 ... itans.html

Here we go........................ #-o
The AFL really are a lot better at managing PR than the nRL. RL journos are going to run amok with these stories.
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Xman wrote:
VIALS of urine have been found hidden in plumbing in the Gold Coast Titans dressing rooms at Skilled Park.

The vials were uncovered by police during a bomb detection training exercise.

The suspicious discovery was revealed yesterday as Australia's biggest drugs-in-sport scandal erupted.

Police said the containers were found stashed in the Titans home rooms at Skilled Park, Robina, by officers undertaking the bomb detection training ahead of next year's G20 summit in Brisbane.

The discovery is believed to have been referred to the Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority.

Titans management was immediately told but said they had not been contacted by ASADA.
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/201 ... itans.html

Here we go........................ #-o
Suspicious 'vials' of urine found by police in the Gold Coast Titans dressing rooms were in fact a single jam jar around five years old, the NRL club says.


Titans CEO David May has ruled out a connection to the club and says the case is closed.

He fronted a media conference at Titans pre-season training on Friday morning after The Courier-Mail revealed police had found the urine hidden in plumbing in the club dressing rooms at Skilled Park, Robina, on Monday during a bomb detection exercise ahead of next year's G20 summit in Brisbane.

Mr May said he had been advised by the stadium manager that urine was contained in a 'very old' jam jar.

"The police have confirmed that it's not a matter they'll be taking any further," he said.

"The jar is, as we've been told, around about five years old. There's hundreds of teams that have been through that change room and just statistically, the chance that it's a Titans issue is very small."

Mr May said the the Australian Sport Anti Doping Authority had not contacted the club but he would welcome any testing of its players.

"Nobody in the sporting world or in the (anti-doping) regime or in the police is actually associating this issue with us so we haven't been contacted and we don't expect to be," he said.

Mr May was asked if he could categorically rule out any Titans link to the jam jar.

"There is nobody in the club that has any knowledge of anything that's related to that," he said.

"As far as all of the information I've been given, there's no connection at all between that jar and the club.

"The case is .... closed."

Mr May said the Titans adhered to the highest anti-doping standards and had a 'zero tolerance' on drugs.

Police found the urine hidden in dressing room plumbing at the Gold Coast Titans home ground during a bomb-sweep exercise.

The suspicious discovery was revealed later in as Australia's biggest drugs-in-sport scandal erupted.

Police sources told The Courier-Mail the container was found stashed in the Titans home dressing rooms at Skilled Park stadium, Robina, by officers undertaking bomb detection training ahead of next year's G20 summit in Brisbane.

Earlier, the Titans' longest-serving high-performance expert said he was shocked by the discovery and insisted the NRL club was "drug-free".

Respected strength-and-conditioning guru Chris McLellan told News Limited he had no involvement.

While the Titans are a major tenant of Skilled, a slew of domestic and international sporting teams have used the venue in recent months, headlined by rugby's World Sevens tournament in October.

McLellan, who left the club at the end of last season, joined Gold Coast for their NRL debut in 2007 and is adamant the urine uncovered was not associated with himself or anybody at the Titans.

"I don't know where the vials have come from," he said on Friday.

"... but I can confirm they have nothing to do with the Titans.

"I was with the club from day one so I knew everything that went on with sports-science there and the Titans are drug-free.

"I have absolutely no idea where these vials have come from and why they would even be there. I am baffled by it.

"There doesn't seem to have been any identification on the vials, is it an ASADA vial or one specific to a certain club?"

The discovery is believed had been referred to the Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority (ASADA).

The NRL club's operations boss, Ian Buchanan, said the discovery was a mystery and the urine could have been put there by any sporting team that used the ground.

"The Rugby Sevens were played there in October and there was a rugby Test between Australia and Argentina in September," he said.

"There is more than one tenant at Skilled Park and I certainly don't think it's fair to point the finger at us.

"It (the urine) could even have been left there from the soccer days (when the now-defunct Gold Coast United played at Skilled Park)."

McLellan, a former Broncos lower grader, confirmed the Titans regularly performed urine testing for hydration purposes but said almost every sample was taken at the nearby Centre of Excellence training facility.

He added the Titans briefly conducted blood tests, but only to gauge "muscle-damage markers".

McLellan said he would be surprised if there was anything sinister in the discovery of urine vials.

"There has been a heap of traffic there (Skilled Park) in recent months. They had the World Sevens rugby tournament there so hundreds of players used the stadium, I honestly believe it was something innocent," he said.

"There is nothing you can do with urine. You don't store it to use it or avoid any detection. It is a waste product so there would be no point hiding it.

"If you found vials of a banned substance, then you have a major issue. But urine vials are really only used for hydration testing.

"I would say someone has forgotten to put it in the disposable bin and it's been left behind.

"In my time there, we didn't even do urine testing at Skilled Park.

"The only urine testing we did was for hydration and when we did it, we would do it off-site. We mainly did it at the Centre of Excellence and sometimes on game days we would do it at team meetings at surf clubs.

"The only other urine testing that was done by the club was done as part of the in-house drug-testing requirements under the NRL's rules and regulations.

"The testing vials we used had serial numbers so if one was lost it would be easily identifiable.

"Even with our in-house tests, I would label vials with players' initials so these vials clearly have nothing to do with the Titans."

Of the blood testing, McLellan said: "The only blood testing we did involved taking some fingerprint samples for a number of research projects. But as a standard practice, no, we didn't do it every week.

"We did not do DNA testing, the testing we did was to measure muscle-damage markers in their blood, that's all.

"There was nothing sinister to it whatsoever."

Mr Buchanan said police had advised Titans CEO David May about the discovery as a "heads-up".

"They said it was found during a bomb sweep," he said.

"There was nothing formal about it. They didn't ask for a 'please explain'. How could they when there are so many teams that use the venue?"


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Tell that to the police :lol:
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