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Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:36 am
by Stewie
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
the raiders football club & business's are the same thing
they continue to bank money , to invest .... to expand their interests ... to make even more money , whilst having the smallest average attendance in the NRL , in the smallest market , with no multinational corporations in our city , with hardly any FTA coverage , struggling to get much backing from sponsors ... they just continue to roll in dough ... they are an amazing franchise
meanwhile VFL clubs continue to lose money hand over fist ... just extraordinary financial failure with so many of their teams
if poort poweroutage & the wions ( just 2 examples ) have proved anything
its you can have members & attendees
they do not guarantee you of financial stability ..... smart people running your club do
Raiders ..... a financial example to all
poort powerfailure .... also a financial example to all .... but
.. for a whole different reason
Despite the raider business arm making decent revenue they only make a few million profit. Therefore the raiders still rely on the nrl and act grants,
.
you mean like Whorethorns turnover of .... 45 Million
& a paltry 1.2 Million profit
take out the VFL's grant of 11 million .... & what do we have ?
seriously give up marcus ..... you have no debating skills & are quite unintelligent
shooting you down is easier then shooting fish in a barrell
You fucking imbecile, how many times do you need to be told? AFL clubs are not for profit. All that money they make goes on to become invested in their football department. If it was all about making profits you would see Collingwood and Hawthorn posting huge numbers, ones that nRL clubs even with all of their pokies machines could even dream of.
By the way if Perth were to ever have an nRL team how would they survive in WA the no-pokies state? No wonder they only lasted a few years in the 90's
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:00 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
the raiders football club & business's are the same thing
they continue to bank money , to invest .... to expand their interests ... to make even more money , whilst having the smallest average attendance in the NRL , in the smallest market , with no multinational corporations in our city , with hardly any FTA coverage , struggling to get much backing from sponsors ... they just continue to roll in dough ... they are an amazing franchise
meanwhile VFL clubs continue to lose money hand over fist ... just extraordinary financial failure with so many of their teams
if poort poweroutage & the wions ( just 2 examples ) have proved anything
its you can have members & attendees
they do not guarantee you of financial stability ..... smart people running your club do
Raiders ..... a financial example to all
poort powerfailure .... also a financial example to all .... but
.. for a whole different reason
Despite the raider business arm making decent revenue they only make a few million profit. Therefore the raiders still rely on the nrl and act grants,
.
you mean like Whorethorns turnover of .... 45 Million
& a paltry 1.2 Million profit
take out the VFL's grant of 11 million .... & what do we have ?
seriously give up marcus ..... you have no debating skills & are quite unintelligent
shooting you down is easier then shooting fish in a barrell
Again dumbarse, the object is to spend your budget, not bank it!
the AFL payment isnt a grant. It covers costs that rightfully belong to the AFL clubs, like hawthorns AFL membership subscriptions, merchandise, TV revenue etc..
Meanwhile the Storm get their NRL grant but rely on News Ltd to kick in 13-15m a year to break even. This is because they have stuff all fans and sponsors. Once their owners lose interest theyre gone.
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:37 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:
Despite the raider business arm making decent revenue they only make a few million profit. Therefore the raiders still rely on the nrl and act grants,
.
you mean like Whorethorns turnover of .... 45 Million
& a paltry 1.2 Million profit
take out the VFL's grant of 11 million .... & what do we have ?
seriously give up marcus ..... you have no debating skills & are quite unintelligent
shooting you down is easier then shooting fish in a barrell
Again dumbarse, the object is to spend your budget, not bank it!
the AFL payment isnt a grant. It covers costs that rightfully belong to the AFL clubs, like hawthorns AFL membership subscriptions, merchandise, TV revenue etc..
.
the object is to spend your budget
is the object to spend more then you earn like many VFL clubs do & seemingly , can't stop doing ?
VFL economics , a guide on what NOT to do
the AFL payment isnt a grant.
the NRL's isn't either then , & the money it gives its clubs rightfully belongs to them too ....
which sorta makes this point of yours
Therefore the raiders still rely on the nrl and act grants,
almost too stupid to contemplate
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:43 pm
by Raiderdave
Stewie wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:
Despite the raider business arm making decent revenue they only make a few million profit. Therefore the raiders still rely on the nrl and act grants,
.
you mean like Whorethorns turnover of .... 45 Million
& a paltry 1.2 Million profit
take out the VFL's grant of 11 million .... & what do we have ?
seriously give up marcus ..... you have no debating skills & are quite unintelligent
shooting you down is easier then shooting fish in a barrell
how many times do you need to be told? AFL clubs are not for profit.
& again you bilthering dick smoker
are they ... All for losses .... instead then ?
its one thing to spend up your budget
its entirely another to spend a lot lot more then you earn
& some VFL clubs just keep doing it
thats unsustainable & anyone with half a nouse of sense can see that
except
the brainless C heads who follow singletball in here
RIP ... Poort Powershortage
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:18 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
you mean like Whorethorns turnover of .... 45 Million
& a paltry 1.2 Million profit
take out the VFL's grant of 11 million .... & what do we have ?
seriously give up marcus ..... you have no debating skills & are quite unintelligent
shooting you down is easier then shooting fish in a barrell
Again dumbarse, the object is to spend your budget, not bank it!
the AFL payment isnt a grant. It covers costs that rightfully belong to the AFL clubs, like hawthorns AFL membership subscriptions, merchandise, TV revenue etc..
.
the object is to spend your budget
is the object to spend more then you earn like many VFL clubs do & seemingly , can't stop doing ?
VFL economics , a guide on what NOT to do
the AFL payment isnt a grant.
the NRL's isn't either then , & the money it gives its clubs rightfully belongs to them too ....
which sorta makes this point of yours
Therefore the raiders still rely on the nrl and act grants,
almost too stupid to contemplate
dimwit
They budget for an expected revenue. If they under-perform or experience unexpected costs theyll make a loss. If they do better than expected they make a profit. Either way they spend almost everything they expect to earn. That's what a non for profit organisation does dumbarse
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:49 am
by Stewie
Raiderdave wrote:Stewie wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
you mean like Whorethorns turnover of .... 45 Million
& a paltry 1.2 Million profit
take out the VFL's grant of 11 million .... & what do we have ?
seriously give up marcus ..... you have no debating skills & are quite unintelligent
shooting you down is easier then shooting fish in a barrell
how many times do you need to be told? AFL clubs are not for profit.
& again you bilthering dick smoker
are they ... All for losses .... instead then ?
its one thing to spend up your budget
its entirely another to spend a lot lot more then you earn
& some VFL clubs just keep doing it
thats unsustainable & anyone with half a nouse of sense can see that
except
the brainless C heads who follow singletball in here
RIP ... Poort Powershortage
As they are not for profit you will see many clubs posting small profits like the Crows this year and many clubs posting small losses. If the clubs with small losses wanted to make a profit, all they'd need to do would be to cut back a little bit on their football department spending. The Crows would be able to post huge profits in 2014 once they move to Adelaide Oval, but will more than likely invest further in their football department like Collingwood and West Coast do.
If you think Port Adelaide will die soon even though they are vital to the new Adelaide Oval and the AFL's TV rights deal, once again you're mistaken. The PAFC has existed decades longer than your poor bogans version of real rugby union.
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:53 am
by Raiderdave
Stewie wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Stewie wrote:
how many times do you need to be told? AFL clubs are not for profit.
& again you bilthering dick smoker
are they ... All for losses .... instead then ?
its one thing to spend up your budget
its entirely another to spend a lot lot more then you earn
& some VFL clubs just keep doing it
thats unsustainable & anyone with half a nouse of sense can see that
except
the brainless C heads who follow singletball in here
RIP ... Poort Powershortage
As they are not for profit you will see many clubs posting small profits like the Crows this year and many clubs posting small losses. If the clubs with small losses wanted to make a profit, all they'd need to do would be to cut back a little bit on their football department spending. The Crows would be able to post huge profits in 2014 once they move to Adelaide Oval, but will more than likely invest further in their football department like Collingwood and West Coast do.
If you think Port Adelaide will die soon even though they are vital to the new Adelaide Oval and the AFL's TV rights deal, once again you're mistaken. The PAFC has existed decades longer than your poor bogans version of real rugby union.
but but
but but but
but but
have you ever read so much BUT ..........
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:58 am
by Xman
if their aim was to make profits then it would be a 'but'. However its not so your reply is as stupid as you are.
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:59 am
by Stewie
Raiderdave wrote:Stewie wrote:Raiderdave wrote:
& again you bilthering dick smoker
are they ... All for losses .... instead then ?
its one thing to spend up your budget
its entirely another to spend a lot lot more then you earn
& some VFL clubs just keep doing it
thats unsustainable & anyone with half a nouse of sense can see that
except
the brainless C heads who follow singletball in here
RIP ... Poort Powershortage
As they are not for profit you will see many clubs posting small profits like the Crows this year and many clubs posting small losses. If the clubs with small losses wanted to make a profit, all they'd need to do would be to cut back a little bit on their football department spending. The Crows would be able to post huge profits in 2014 once they move to Adelaide Oval, but will more than likely invest further in their football department like Collingwood and West Coast do.
If you think Port Adelaide will die soon even though they are vital to the new Adelaide Oval and the AFL's TV rights deal, once again you're mistaken. The PAFC has existed decades longer than your poor bogans version of real rugby union.
but but
but but but
but but
have you ever read so much BUT ..........
The only one mentioning "but" is you. Classic Raiderdave deflection.
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:26 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
Don't worry stewie, the Raiders may throw your mob a hand full of the lose change they find in the back of one of their multiple lounges they have scattered all over the joint.
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:29 pm
by Xman
ParraEelsNRL wrote:Don't worry stewie, the Raiders may throw your mob a hand full of the lose change they find in the back of one of their multiple lounges they have scattered all over the joint.
Given their miniscule football budget they need to throw some to themselves and stop relying on the ACT government
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:37 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:ParraEelsNRL wrote:Don't worry stewie, the Raiders may throw your mob a hand full of the lose change they find in the back of one of their multiple lounges they have scattered all over the joint.
Given their miniscule football budget they need to throw some to themselves and stop relying on the ACT government
oh I see you've dropped the NRL from this ridiculous point of yours
learned ya well didn't I
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:39 pm
by Xman
Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:ParraEelsNRL wrote:Don't worry stewie, the Raiders may throw your mob a hand full of the lose change they find in the back of one of their multiple lounges they have scattered all over the joint.
Given their miniscule football budget they need to throw some to themselves and stop relying on the ACT government
oh I see you've dropped the NRL from this ridiculous point of yours
learned ya well didn't I
given the ACT/NRL make up almost 50% of their revenue Id say its still a relevant point.
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:41 pm
by Raiderdave
ParraEelsNRL wrote:Don't worry stewie, the Raiders may throw your mob a hand full of the lose change they find in the back of one of their multiple lounges they have scattered all over the joint.
we'll let poort powerfailures CEO .... roam one of the many clubs we own's poker machine areas picking up dropped coins
he can then maybe scrounge enough for a basic keno entry ... then he could maybe win a million bucks
then they'd only be 5.3 million down for the year
Re: Raiders now to become Property moguls
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:42 pm
by Raiderdave
Xman wrote:Raiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:
Given their miniscule football budget they need to throw some to themselves and stop relying on the ACT government
oh I see you've dropped the NRL from this ridiculous point of yours
learned ya well didn't I
given the ACT/NRL make up almost 50% of their revenue Id say its still a relevant point.
7.1 Million .... out of 61 Million
is
50% is it ?