Talking Footy

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Yes roll our the white flags everyone...........

Cant compete head to head with Football and League, lets move to sundays.....

its your heartland dopey!

Its like us bragging AFL is beating junior RL in Victoria

its not the point here d head
how bout the VFL tell the truth ... just once ...tell people they're in fact ... struggling to attact kids to its game in Sydney
& not lie & say participation is booming

how bout that then ?

after 30 years & a motza of money spent .. with an aim of getting a large number of kids playing vicky kicky in Sydney & indeed .. everywhere else in NSW outside the Riverina
the VFL is still on struggle street
why is the VFL not telling the truth about this & infact telling everyone the exact opposite

VFL... lying scum

They don't lie dopey, the Sydney media create bogus stories because fools like you lap it up.

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

its your heartland dopey!

Its like us bragging AFL is beating junior RL in Victoria

its not the point here d head
how bout the VFL tell the truth ... just once ...tell people they're in fact ... struggling to attact kids to its game in Sydney
& not lie & say participation is booming

how bout that then ?

after 30 years & a motza of money spent .. with an aim of getting a large number of kids playing vicky kicky in Sydney & indeed .. everywhere else in NSW outside the Riverina
the VFL is still on struggle street
why is the VFL not telling the truth about this & infact telling everyone the exact opposite

VFL... lying scum

They don't lie dopey, the Sydney media create bogus stories because fools like you lap it up.

so ... how exaclty is this below.... a sydney media created bogus story F wit ?
oh thats right
it isn't
its straight from the lying scum themselves ...... lets not tell the real story eh

VFL ... the lies from smoke n mirrors central are now beyond the pale
beyond the pale




The AFL today released its national participation numbers for 2012 with the game’s participation base continuing to reach record numbers throughout the country.

In 2012 national participation has increased to 844,799, representing a 6.81% increase from a 2011 total of 790,905 participants.

Across the four key participation areas of NAB AFL Auskick, clubs, schools and Cadbury AFL 9s, this year’s 6.81% increase is the largest rate of growth since 2008 and ensures the AFL remains on track to reach its forecasted target of one million participants by 2016.

In 2012 the number of NAB AFL Auskick participants reached 182,846, representing a 9.44% increase from the previous year, which is the biggest increase in NAB AFL Auskick participation since 2007.

The most substantial area of growth over the past 12 months has come from the number of females playing Australian football - the participation base of females jumped a massive 43.17% in 2012.

Significant participation growth was recorded on a regional basis throughout the country, with Queensland (up 10.04% to 137,989) and NSW/ACT (up 8.64% to 148,230) leading the way.South Australia was the only region not to record an increase with -2.06% growth in 2012 after registering a 13% increase in 2011.

The Northern Territory recorded the greatest overall regional growth, reaching 27,254 participants, up 29.18% on 2011.

Participation numbers of the newest form of the game, Cadbury AFL 9s, continued to grow significantly in 2012 to reach 12,536 participants, representing a 167% increase on the previous year.

International participation has also increased by 10% in 2012, rising to 110,292 participants outside Australia.

AFL General Manager - National and International Development and General Counsel, Andrew Dillon, said: “The growth of our participation base, across all levels of the game, is vitally important to the health of Australian football so it’s encouraging to see significant growth in 2012.

“Through a wide range of programs right around the country we are committed to ensuring as many people as possible are able to be actively involved in Australian football.

”The NAB AFL Auskick program continues to provide a pathway for thousands of young kids and the growth rate over the past 12 months has been the largest we’ve seen in five years.

This comes off the back of the ongoing support we receive from NAB and a focus on delivering quality programs at a local community level,” Mr Dillon added.

“We’ve also seen a significant jump in the number of females playing the game as participation continues to grow off the back of the suite of programs on offer to both males and females.

“The development of AFL 9s as a social form of the game has provided us with an opportunity to engage with a new market to grow the game while our club and school football programs continue to provide us with a great avenue for playing the game in safe and inclusive environments.
“We’ve seen growth right around the country but it’s particularly encouraging to see such strong growth rates in the non-traditional markets of Queensland and New South Wales and the ACT.
The introduction of the Gold Coast Suns in 2011 and the Greater Western Sydney Giants this year has been pivotal in increasing awareness and participation of Australian football in those regions.
“As interest in the game continues to grow internationally we’ve again seen an increase in those people playing the game outside of Australia with the strongest participation numbers coming from countries such as South Africa, Papua New Guinea and New Zealand.”

http://www.AFL.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

And.......what the f does that prove?

Xman wrote:

And.......what the f does that prove?

the VFL lies quite obviously d head
its saying things are going busters in NSW & more importantly Western Sydney ... but in reality

the game can't attract enough kids to play it ..
VFL Development officers in NSW are probably being reamed out behind closed doors because the REAL numbers are utter sh.it
so to justify their wages ... they've had to get vicky kicky to move away from competition for players on Sat's from other codes
now.. thats not really an indication of the code going gang busters is it ?

VFL... Lying scum

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

And.......what the f does that prove?

the VFL lies quite obviously d head
its saying things are going busters in NSW & more importantly Western Sydney ... but in reality

the game can't attract enough kids to play it ..
VFL Development officers in NSW are probably being reamed out behind closed doors because the REAL numbers are utter sh.it
so to justify their wages ... they've had to get vicky kicky to move away from competition for players on Sat's from other codes
now.. thats not really an indication of the code going gang busters is it ?

VFL... Lying scum

So they lie because you THINK they aren't attracting players.....

Got anything we like to call proof fool?

So on the topic of AFL paricipation, we have two conflicting sources:

1) The AFL's figures
2) What Dave desperateley hopes is happening.

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Shit thread is shit. It's about getting kids playing more than one sport.

I don't know how it is in Sydney, but in Adelaide when I was in school it was school football on Saturday's and club football on Sunday's.

oh oh oh ..... but vicky kicky is boooooooommmmiinnnggggg in Western Sydney d head
just ask the VFL .. theres a kid pulling on a singlet & his little sisters shorts .. every 2 minutes
hmmmmmm ..so why have they had to ..... move ?

VFL.... lying scum

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Haha just dribbled my coffee when I read that

Drac wrote:

So on the topic of AFL paricipation, we have two conflicting sources:

1) The AFL's figures
2) What Dave desperateley hopes is happening.

Raiderdave wrote:

Stewie wrote:

Shit thread is shit. It's about getting kids playing more than one sport.

I don't know how it is in Sydney, but in Adelaide when I was in school it was school football on Saturday's and club football on Sunday's.

oh oh oh ..... but vicky kicky is boooooooommmmiinnnggggg in Western Sydney d head
just ask the VFL .. theres a kid pulling on a singlet & his little sisters shorts .. every 2 minutes
hmmmmmm ..so why have they had to ..... move ?

VFL.... lying scum

end of

There certainly was an increase in participation of football in western Sydney this year with the Giants, but I don't see anyone bragging saying that there's been a radical growth in playing numbers. You must get sucked into some of Roy Masters' pieces

Yep the AFL talent pool dries up....... =D> =D>

New clubs stretching talent pool to the limit

We celebrate the footballers who have transformed themselves from after-thoughts to stars, and rightly so. Dean Cox, Aaron Sandilands, Harry O'Brien, Stephen Milne and many others relied on the rookie draft to make their start in the AFL, while Matthew Boyd and Nick Maxwell have become club captains. Every player who had their name called today will be hoping to achieve similar things.

The truth is, it's getting harder. Numbers were down in last year's rookie draft and this time clubs made fewer than 30 'live' picks, following on from last month's shorter-than-usual national draft. It's important to note that rookie list numbers dropped from six to four this year, as a general rule, with clubs having been allowed two extra players during the introduction of Gold Coast and GWS in the past few years but, even so, many simply didn't want to invest in it.

Some clubs were happy with the four rookies they have, and stuck with them: Geelong and St Kilda are two that made no picks. Essendon, which used its pre-season draft choice on teenager Will Hams, took only one rookie and it was Ariel Steinberg, moved back from the primary list. Some clubs had used free agency to fill spots that would otherwise have existed, limiting opportunities for new players further: see the Saints and Dylan Roberton. But it's hard not to wonder how far the introduction of the new clubs has stretched the country's talent, given many clubs seemed to simply have no names left on their lists.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/new- ... z2F5nq6kaf

eelofwest wrote:

Yep the AFL talent pool dries up....... =D> =D>

New clubs stretching talent pool to the limit

We celebrate the footballers who have transformed themselves from after-thoughts to stars, and rightly so. Dean Cox, Aaron Sandilands, Harry O'Brien, Stephen Milne and many others relied on the rookie draft to make their start in the AFL, while Matthew Boyd and Nick Maxwell have become club captains. Every player who had their name called today will be hoping to achieve similar things.

The truth is, it's getting harder. Numbers were down in last year's rookie draft and this time clubs made fewer than 30 'live' picks, following on from last month's shorter-than-usual national draft. It's important to note that rookie list numbers dropped from six to four this year, as a general rule, with clubs having been allowed two extra players during the introduction of Gold Coast and GWS in the past few years but, even so, many simply didn't want to invest in it.

Some clubs were happy with the four rookies they have, and stuck with them: Geelong and St Kilda are two that made no picks. Essendon, which used its pre-season draft choice on teenager Will Hams, took only one rookie and it was Ariel Steinberg, moved back from the primary list. Some clubs had used free agency to fill spots that would otherwise have existed, limiting opportunities for new players further: see the Saints and Dylan Roberton. But it's hard not to wonder how far the introduction of the new clubs has stretched the country's talent, given many clubs seemed to simply have no names left on their lists.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/new- ... z2F5nq6kaf

Given the increase in player numbers from expansion states this will stabilise

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

And.......what the f does that prove?

the VFL lies quite obviously d head
its saying things are going busters in NSW & more importantly Western Sydney ... but in reality

the game can't attract enough kids to play it ..
VFL Development officers in NSW are probably being reamed out behind closed doors because the REAL numbers are utter sh.it
so to justify their wages ... they've had to get vicky kicky to move away from competition for players on Sat's from other codes
now.. thats not really an indication of the code going gang busters is it ?

VFL... Lying scum

So they lie because you THINK they aren't attracting players.....

they're own report says they aren't c.ock head
& the move away from other codes to try & attract more players ... confirms it .....
VFL lying scum

Xman wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Yep the AFL talent pool dries up....... =D> =D>

New clubs stretching talent pool to the limit

We celebrate the footballers who have transformed themselves from after-thoughts to stars, and rightly so. Dean Cox, Aaron Sandilands, Harry O'Brien, Stephen Milne and many others relied on the rookie draft to make their start in the AFL, while Matthew Boyd and Nick Maxwell have become club captains. Every player who had their name called today will be hoping to achieve similar things.

The truth is, it's getting harder. Numbers were down in last year's rookie draft and this time clubs made fewer than 30 'live' picks, following on from last month's shorter-than-usual national draft. It's important to note that rookie list numbers dropped from six to four this year, as a general rule, with clubs having been allowed two extra players during the introduction of Gold Coast and GWS in the past few years but, even so, many simply didn't want to invest in it.

Some clubs were happy with the four rookies they have, and stuck with them: Geelong and St Kilda are two that made no picks. Essendon, which used its pre-season draft choice on teenager Will Hams, took only one rookie and it was Ariel Steinberg, moved back from the primary list. Some clubs had used free agency to fill spots that would otherwise have existed, limiting opportunities for new players further: see the Saints and Dylan Roberton. But it's hard not to wonder how far the introduction of the new clubs has stretched the country's talent, given many clubs seemed to simply have no names left on their lists.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/new- ... z2F5nq6kaf

Given the increase in player numbers from expansion states this will stabilise

when .... 2024 ?
why is it a case of having to stabilise anyway

did the Titans distabilise the NRL's talent pool in 2007.... NO
the Storm in 1998.... NO
the Reds , Cowboys & warriors in 1995 .... NO

was vicky kicky NOT ready to expand further ............. it would appear the answer is no they weren't .. not even close to being ready in fact.
wow what a cluster F.uck this is turning out to be

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

Raiderdave wrote:

the VFL lies quite obviously d head
its saying things are going busters in NSW & more importantly Western Sydney ... but in reality

the game can't attract enough kids to play it ..
VFL Development officers in NSW are probably being reamed out behind closed doors because the REAL numbers are utter sh.it
so to justify their wages ... they've had to get vicky kicky to move away from competition for players on Sat's from other codes
now.. thats not really an indication of the code going gang busters is it ?

VFL... Lying scum

So they lie because you THINK they aren't attracting players.....

they're own report says they aren't c.ock head
& the move away from other codes to try & attract more players ... confirms it .....
VFL lying scum

The report you fool says the participation numbers are still growing!

The only negative it says is that Auskick is taking players away from clubs. IT NEVER DISPUTES PARTICIPATION NUMBER!

Raiderdave wrote:

Xman wrote:

eelofwest wrote:

Yep the AFL talent pool dries up....... =D> =D>

New clubs stretching talent pool to the limit

We celebrate the footballers who have transformed themselves from after-thoughts to stars, and rightly so. Dean Cox, Aaron Sandilands, Harry O'Brien, Stephen Milne and many others relied on the rookie draft to make their start in the AFL, while Matthew Boyd and Nick Maxwell have become club captains. Every player who had their name called today will be hoping to achieve similar things.

The truth is, it's getting harder. Numbers were down in last year's rookie draft and this time clubs made fewer than 30 'live' picks, following on from last month's shorter-than-usual national draft. It's important to note that rookie list numbers dropped from six to four this year, as a general rule, with clubs having been allowed two extra players during the introduction of Gold Coast and GWS in the past few years but, even so, many simply didn't want to invest in it.

Some clubs were happy with the four rookies they have, and stuck with them: Geelong and St Kilda are two that made no picks. Essendon, which used its pre-season draft choice on teenager Will Hams, took only one rookie and it was Ariel Steinberg, moved back from the primary list. Some clubs had used free agency to fill spots that would otherwise have existed, limiting opportunities for new players further: see the Saints and Dylan Roberton. But it's hard not to wonder how far the introduction of the new clubs has stretched the country's talent, given many clubs seemed to simply have no names left on their lists.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/new- ... z2F5nq6kaf

Given the increase in player numbers from expansion states this will stabilise

when .... 2024 ?
why is it a case of having to stabilise anyway

did the Titans distabilise the NRL's talent pool in 2007.... NO
the Storm in 1998.... NO
the Reds , Cowboys & warriors in 1995 .... NO

was vicky kicky NOT ready to expand further ............. it would appear the answer is no they weren't .. not even close to being ready in fact.
wow what a cluster F.uck this is turning out to be

The article is an opinion based on recruiting patterns. It has no foundation in fact at all.