AFL V NRL Financial positioning

[ParraEelsNRL]

If the donkeys were not the biggest they'd have some problems, this club has had everything go its way since inclusion and I agree about their crowds, they should be averaging 40k + like they used too.

[Stewie]

If the donkeys were not the biggest they'd have some problems, this club has had everything go its way since inclusion and I agree about their crowds, they should be averaging 40k + like they used too.

Should be 40k for sure. But league is struggling in Brisbane these days. Union's Qld Reds get bigger crowds now. Just imagine how far the Broncos crowds will plummet once they don't make the finals for consecutive years.

[Xman]

heres the Broncos half yearly report to June 30 2012

http://www.broncos.com.au/site/_content ... source.pdf

S.hit
Turnover at 17.5 Million for 6 months
& a 1.169 Mill dollar half year profit .... nearly as much as whorethorn's full year profit

Add their gaming profits to their very well run Football operation & we have ...... Australias wealthiest sporting organisation

So a team representing 2mil people made 17m in 6 months!

how is that a good thing?

[ParraEelsNRL]

Hahaha, the REds play less games and they also manage to squeeze finals into their averages.

Stick to vFL stewie, you are out of your depth talking about other football codes.

[Stewie]

Hahaha, the REds play less games and they also manage to squeeze finals into their averages.

Stick to vFL stewie, you are out of your depth talking about other football codes.

They didn't include finals in their averages you idiot. As for the Reds having less games, well that's the nRL fault for scheduling more games to increase their tv rights value.

[ParraEelsNRL]

eh?

Are you all there?

Where did the NRL increase its game schedule, the last time was when the Titans came in for obvious reasons.

And fyi, the Reds and O'neil were busted last year of putting their semis and GF into their crowd average and then lying about how they beat the Broncos in crowd averages before the Broncos season had even finished, there threads here about it imba.

And yes, if the Reds did in fact beat the Broncos this year (I have my doubts) well wouldn't the fact that the Broncos didn't make the finals in 2010 and the Reds where in the finals and then won won the S15 title the following year and the Broncos limping into the 8 this year when the Reds were again in a Grand Final again have anything to do with the band wagon effect that happens with all the teams up there but esp the two that don't matter as much as the broncos?

Did you compare profits?

Did you compare Sponsorship?

Did you compare media coverage?

Did you compare TV ratings both Pay and FTA?

Blah blah blah stewie.

[Raiderdave]

heres the Broncos half yearly report to June 30 2012

http://www.broncos.com.au/site/_content ... source.pdf

S.hit
Turnover at 17.5 Million for 6 months
& a 1.169 Mill dollar half year profit .... nearly as much as whorethorn's full year profit

Add their gaming profits to their very well run Football operation & we have ...... Australias wealthiest sporting organisation

So a team representing 2mil people made 17m in 6 months!

how is that a good thing?

ah..... thats just their football operation revenue D head
as you know .... unlike VFL clubs trying to make themselves out to be bigger then they are
NRL clubs don't report their gaming activity
if they did

its NRL >>>>>>>> VFL

[ParraEelsNRL]

The reds according to stewie are the biggest thing up there now, if so, why are they level more or less with a struggling Broncos side that gets FTA TV each and every week (obviously easier to watch on TV than go to game huh?)?

The Broncos play more games too, hmmm stewie, why aren't the reds doing a lot better than they are, aren't they the QLD Reds, at team that represents the whole of QLD on the international stage not smashing a little ol club side in a club competition?

Could you answer these questions stewie?

[Raiderdave]

I wouldnt talk the Broncos up too much as they only average 32,000 a game.

That is 20,000 empty seats for a 1 team town in Rugby League heartland. Says a lot about Rugby League supporters aye Radierdave

shows that fans at games aren't the do all & end all doesn't it D head
and they're a tad easier to talk up then those wascle Wions
who are stoney broke , pennyless .... all but on life support

the Broncos have never posted a loss in their 25 years ..... not one
& have 14 million in cash .... in the bank

do the wions need lessons on how to run football organisation ..... I'll see if the broncos can give them a few tips

Lol. Put another nRL team in Brisbane (a rl heartland) and split their Friday night games and see their finances tumble. Take away their pokies revenue and you've got every nRL club posting financial losses.

but but but

[Stewie]

eh?

Are you all there?

Where did the NRL increase its game schedule, the last time was when the Titans came in for obvious reasons.

And fyi, the Reds and O'neil were busted last year of putting their semis and GF into their crowd average and then lying about how they beat the Broncos in crowd averages before the Broncos season had even finished, there threads here about it imba.

And yes, if the Reds did in fact beat the Broncos this year (I have my doubts) well wouldn't the fact that the Broncos didn't make the finals in 2010 and the Reds where in the finals and then won won the S15 title the following year and the Broncos limping into the 8 this year when the Reds were again in a Grand Final again have anything to do with the band wagon effect that happens with all the teams up there but esp the two that don't matter as much as the broncos?

Did you compare profits?

Did you compare Sponsorship?

Did you compare media coverage?

Did you compare TV ratings both Pay and FTA?

Blah blah blah stewie.

No one's forcing the nRL to have each team play 12 games. They could easily make it less, but that would mean less TV money so that's a no-no for the greedy nRL.

Yes I agree there Queensland's sport culture is mostly a band wagoner one. Once the Lions get back on top don't be surprised to see them averaging back in the 30,000's. But for the mean time, it's the Reds who are on top of the crowd averages there. The Reds crowds don't include finals either, they hosted 8 matches at home with an average crowd of 34,218 to the Broncos 33,377.

[Stewie]

shows that fans at games aren't the do all & end all doesn't it D head
and they're a tad easier to talk up then those wascle Wions
who are stoney broke , pennyless .... all but on life support

the Broncos have never posted a loss in their 25 years ..... not one
& have 14 million in cash .... in the bank

do the wions need lessons on how to run football organisation ..... I'll see if the broncos can give them a few tips

Lol. Put another nRL team in Brisbane (a rl heartland) and split their Friday night games and see their finances tumble. Take away their pokies revenue and you've got every nRL club posting financial losses.

but but but

Couldn't think of a good response to that could you Raiderdave?

[ParraEelsNRL]

wow, a GF team who were defending champions managed to get just under a thousand more people to each of its 8 games than the Broncos who had a poor year and missed the 8 and played 4 extra games.

Yeah man, the Reds are killing it.

They better hope they keep winning, because $300,000 per match at Suncorp can be a bit of a noose around the neck at times huh?

[ParraEelsNRL]

Stewie thinks another Brisbane NRL side wouldn't work because of the Crushers huh?

Well when the Crushers first entered in 1995, their crowd average was 21,029 while the high flying broncos 35,902, the broncos did lose a bit in the averages from the year before, but it was only 2k down from their 37,705 previously.

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/1995.html

Then SL hit and News got hold of the Broncos, the rest as they say is history.

No reason a second or even third team couldn't eventually be put into the area, it is after all one of RL's great heartlands in the world.

[Stewie]

wow, a GF team who were defending champions managed to get just under a thousand more people to each of its 8 games than the Broncos who had a poor year and missed the 8 and played 4 extra games.

Yeah man, the Reds are killing it.

They better hope they keep winning, because $300,000 per match at Suncorp can be a bit of a noose around the neck at times huh?

The Broncos had a strong 2011 so their crowds and memberships would have also been up because of that. Although they still made the finals again this year, watch their crowds slide again as the Lions are looking set to have a big 2013.

[Stewie]

Stewie thinks another Brisbane NRL side wouldn't work because of the Crushers huh?

Well when the Crushers first entered in 1995, their crowd average was 21,029 while the high flying broncos 35,902, the broncos did lose a bit in the averages from the year before, but it was only 2k down from their 37,705 previously.

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/1995.html

Then SL hit and News got hold of the Broncos, the rest as they say is history.

No reason a second or even third team couldn't eventually be put into the area, it is after all one of RL's great heartlands in the world.

Well if they competed with the Broncos for more than one season in the same comp we may have had a different story!