Tanking in AFL, coaches speak out.

[TLPG]

I can't see something that isn't there, idiot. That's an opinion piece that is out of whack with the reality of the difference between experimentation and tanking like I said.

[Xman]

I'd suggest you're the blind one. Show me where he said they deliberately lost the game.

[King-Eliagh]

Oh dear do we need to spell it out?

Xman, TLPG there are times in peoples professional lives where spelling out indecent and immoral acts of previous and or current employers is just not a good thing to do. This is especially the case in the case of teams tanking which has been purposefully shrouded with ambiguity to protect the AFL organisation.

Even so, the evidence we have is as clear as crystal. These folks are pointing right at the issue and all but naming it. Even blind freddy can see whats going on.

[TLPG]

The evidence is only clear in your warped anti-AFL brain, KE. And we all know how unreliable that is!

What we have here is experimentation. Not tanking. Clubs in the NRL do it as well I'll wager.

[King-Eliagh]

shut yer yapper TLPG. You're wrong.

[Xman]

shut yer yapper TLPG. You're wrong.

No you're wrong. You still haven't shown evidence, just pure speculation.

[TLPG]

And incorrect grammar on top of that!

[King-Eliagh]

And incorrect grammar on top of that!

Were we talking about grammar? In any case please point it out, I'm always willing to learn.

[TLPG]

Experimentation <> Tanking. Saying otherwise is poor grammar.

[King-Eliagh]

Experimentation <> Tanking. Saying otherwise is poor grammar.

You're half jarred arent you?

[TLPG]

That's right. I make a valid point and you can only answer with an irrelevant insult. Way to be a loser, KE.

[King-Eliagh]

What? Only someone half baked or half jarred could come up with such an ill thought out assumption.

[TLPG]

It's not an assumption. It's the facts of the situation. You are the one making assumptions via poor grammar.

[King-Eliagh]

It's not an assumption. It's the facts of the situation. You are the one making assumptions via poor grammar.

[eelofwest]

I think i will get things back on topic guys....

You're Blind Freddy, Eel, and so is KE. You don't know the difference between experimentation and actual tanking.

AFL unable to act on McLean tanking claims.

http://www.bigfootynews.com/2012/07/AFL ... ing-claim/



That is right they cant act because its true....

The AFL has put itself in a bind regarding tanking. Anderson’s statements in the middle of last year meant that tanking would not be looked at in cases up to and including the 2009 debacle.

If the AFL was to investigate the allegations against Melbourne, they would have to investigate other clubs. There’s the 2007 ‘Kreuzer Cup’ in Round 22 between Carlton and Melbourne. Terry Wallace ‘doing nothing’ in 2007. Efforts by Hawthorn and Collingwood in early 2000s and West Coast putting players in for early surgeries when it was clear the season was shot are all other examples of tanking.

The Collingwood example saw them gain Scott Pendlebury and Dale Thomas, cornerstones of their current side. Reports were made at the time of many of these allegations and even Brendan Fevola’s new book makes mention of the tanking at Carlton. Yet the AFL have only investigated one case of the offence.

If it is a crime, then Melbourne have to be punished. Since the tanking year in 2009, Melbourne have not made the finals. The club has gone backwards in a year of both on-field and off-field hell.

The supporter base is completely demoralised; one look at the comments on the official Melbourne Facebook page after yet another loss shows that. Recent history has compounded into a season of hell. The two Melbourne jumper sponsors are short-term after the EnergyWatch scandal. For the AFL to add to this might even put the club’s existence at risk.
Many supporters seeing, say, a loss of draft picks on top of five years of terrible performances might give up on the club for the time being. Memberships and merchandise sales would surely suffer.

Finally, what’s to be gained from such a punishment? The coach of 2009 has been sacked. The then-president of Melbourne is a legend among the eyes of many Melbournians and not just supporters of the Demons, and dragging his name through the mud since his passing is a sure-fire way to come under attack from the mainstream media.

It’s too much of a risk to the AFL for them to go after Melbourne. A quiet word to clubs, saying that the party is over and if you’ve got people who come out and say this again, we will punish you, will be the way to go.

Otherwise the last decade of AFL football will forever be tarnished by the actions of various clubs over the years.

Hey Blind Freddy can you see it yet......

Blind freddy can you see the light yet???